LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette, 19 May 2012 - #7

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  • #201
Wouldn't you think if someone kidnapped Mickey, they would have just left the bike, rather than have to deal with the additional baggage? Leaving the bike certainly wouldn't prove who kidnapped her!?

Has anyone come forward about the text Mickey received that night?
 
  • #202
Is their a reason why ALOT of people suspect he didn't have a gun to make this go easier? I know many of you think this was pre-planned. Just asking!

Or a taser or stun gun. I know that's how Garrido was able to incapacitate Jaycee Duggard and and think that's how the man charged in SL's case attempted to abduct people in the past.
 
  • #203
Why didn't I think of that?! Just put your hand out of the window and 'Boop!'

Argh.

She could have been accidentally hit by the side view mirror! Some of those really stick out far and I hate it when I bump my shoulder on one going through a parking lot! At any rate, I can't imagine hitting someone and not calling for help.
 
  • #204
I think she knew her abductor. Someone interested in snatching her off of the street wouldn't care about the bike. It would only slow them down. The only exception might be if the location of the bike was uncomfortably close to the workplace or home of the perpetrator. Look at how much trouble it was to dump the bike. Perhaps it was someone who lived near her home making it seem more reasonable for her to accept a ride since she would know they were having to go the same way anyway. Otherwise, having the bike is just an unecessary liability. Just a hunch, of course, but it explains why the bike would not simply be left at the scene.

Predators are becoming increasingly aware of forensic issues & take necessary precautions.
I am very concerned that none of Mickey's possessions were located at the abduction site, if the exact location has been determined.
 
  • #205
She could have been accidentally hit by the side view mirror! Some of those really stick out far and I hate it when I bump my shoulder on one going through a parking lot! At any rate, I can't imagine hitting someone and not calling for help.

I can't either, but the sad thing is that it happens all the time. I know someone who was drinking while driving, hit a car with children in it, and because she was drunk and knew she would go through a lot of hassle, lose her license and face jail time because it would have been her 2nd or 3rd DUI - she panicked and left the scene of the accident! This happened early on a Friday evening. She went home, packed a suitcase and left town! When she got back on Sunday she found a business card from a police officer. But by then it was too late to give her a blood alcohol test. She still got smacked with a heavy fine, but no DUI.

People can be so selfish - just like this person I knew. She knew there could be potential injuries - yet she only thought of herself and left the scene. Something similar could have happened in Mickey's situation, but the person panicked and took Mickey along with her bike.
 
  • #206
Wouldn't you think if someone kidnapped Mickey, they would have just left the bike, rather than have to deal with the additional baggage? Leaving the bike certainly wouldn't prove who kidnapped her!?

Has anyone come forward about the text Mickey received that night?

Because either she didn't feel the need to scream or something stopped her from doing so. Since she carried mace, she had awareness that something could happen to her so she had given it at least some thought.
 
  • #207
The Sociopath Next Door, by Martha Stout

I would like to read that... in my last year of doctoral school so I don't have a lot of time to read for pleasure but when I do I will check it out. APD is not that uncommon, but it is important to remember that not everyone with the disorder is a serial killer or rapist. Most people, myself included, have a hard time understanding what it would be like to live without feeling for others but it's amazing (and frustrating as a therapist) to talk to someone who can not describe a scenario in their life where they felt guilt.
 
  • #208
Yes, and the exit is equidistant from Lafayette to Baton Rouge, LA, which raises questions of a Derrick Todd Lee/Sean Vincent Gillis, copycat IMO..

Newspaper clippings of the DTL investigation & crimes were found in SVG's possession when he was arrested years later...

Deja vu?

I think that's cause SVG had a rivalry thing going on with DTL more than him copycatting DTL. DTL's "work" got more attention.

But there's a small chance this perp could be copycatting SVG and DTL (pray not)- SVG hit a jogger with his car, took her off to do horrible things to, mutilated the body, and dumped (most of) the body. Gross. (And I don't think there was any trace on the street or anyone around I heard him hit her wirh his car). And then to use DTL's dumping vicinity.
That's why that the bike was found en route to BR is so haunting. But probably coincidence more than copycat. I hope.
 
  • #209
Its tough to look back because, as they say, hindsight is 20/20....but I do wish the parents had attempted to report Mickey missing on Saturday morning. I also understand the delay. My husband and I delayed calling LE about our son for about 10 hours. We just kept thinking we would find him. We kept thinking...he missed work because he lost track of time or he went to a friend's house and fell asleep. Of course, we knew that wasn't the case but its amazing what your mind does to you. Calling LE to report your child missing, an older child, is difficult. You simply don't want to believe something is wrong.

The bad thing is that precious time is lost.
 
  • #210
If Mickey were stopped for some reason, I think it would be much easier to push her in to the trunk of the Olds or Caddy than it would be to get her up and into a truck bed or a truck seat.
 
  • #211
This may have been answered already but has LE released a sketch of the man who picked up the girl who said he drives around looking to pick up pretty girls? I think this would be very valuable to the case unless LE knows that it doesn't.
 
  • #212
Facts are facts. Statistics are statistics. And profiling saves lives. Sorry if I offended you but this is not a time to be politically correct.

I'm not particularly offended nor am I particularly offended by dumb blond jokes. But there has been nothing presented in this case, other than a random car, that suggests the race of the perp. A POI hasn't even been named. So, just as we try to remain sensitive to the victim's family, we should try to stay sensitive to a whole race of people who, in my opinion, have been persecuted historically. If that's ever going to change, we have to change. Also watch or read, To Kill a Mockingbird.
 
  • #213
Facts are facts. Statistics are statistics. And profiling saves lives. Sorry if I offended you but this is not a time to be politically correct.

I'm not a huge fan of generalized profiling, but I do agree that non-white communities are less likely to be proactively cooperative with law enforcement. Often with good reason.

This is common knowledge.
 
  • #214
I really cannot see someone hitting her totally by accident and then taking her, and her bike away. I know ,I am sure there are examples, but I am just not seeing it, not in a city street, maybe way out in a rural area that is totally desolate. Most people, panicked or not, are not criminals at heart. JMO
 
  • #215
Would someone be kind enough to tell me the exact location that the second truck (one with what appears to be a bed cover) was pictured at? If I were looking it up on google street view, what should I search? TIA!
 
  • #216
Bloomington, Indiana police have contacted Louisiana authorities to investigate similarities between the disappearanes of Lauren Spierer and Mickey Shunick.

http://www.indystar.com/article/201...t-cases?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|IndyStar.com

Both women are petite blonde college students, traveling alone at night/early A.M hours.

A white four door newer model pickup truck was seen by surviellance cameras near both women at the time of their disappearance. In the Spierer case, the white truck was seen circling the block twice, and police later identified the driver and said he was not a person of interest.

However unlikely, maybe there were two white pickups, or the driver's story was false?

Probably just some amazing coincidences, but creepy nonetheless.
 
  • #217
If Mickey were stopped for some reason, I think it would be much easier to push her in to the trunk of the Olds or Caddy than it would be to get her up and into a truck bed or a truck seat.

I've put my 150lb unwieldy and squirming great dane into the back of my truck 100's of times no problem. Even without my adrenalin pumping.
 
  • #218
I'm not particularly offended nor am I particularly offended by dumb blond jokes. But there has been nothing presented in this case, other than a random car, that suggests the race of the perp. A POI hasn't even been named. So, just as we try to remain sensitive to the victim's family, we should try to stay sensitive to a whole race of people who, in my opinion, have been persecuted historically. If that's ever going to change, we have to change. Also watch or read, To Kill a Mockingbird.

Looks like you and I are arguing the same point from different angles.

I'm also a 'dumb blonde'.
 
  • #219
I believe the "caddy" is really an Oldsmobile because of the way the back lights aren't narrow and they slant up towards the trunk. That year Cadillac has narrow vertical break lights that are square to the body. They are not angled in any direction. I also believe the white truck is the perp and the olds most probably is being driven by a non white. It's notorious how scared of cops non whites are. Even innocent non whites will not speak to cops about what they've seen/witnessed.

I AM white and scared of cops. I've seen some very shady stuff from them.
 
  • #220
IMO she went willingly because something would have been found of hers on the ground. Anyone remember Kristi Cornwell? She went for a walk in a very rural area and was talking to her BF on her cell. She told her BF a car was following her. Later they found her sneaker and her eyeglasses on the ground. Maybe MS knows this person and trusted him. Also with Cornwell case, LE knew who the suspect was because HIS cell pinged at a nearby tower. Im hoping LE knows more and they find her safe.
 
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