LA LA - Old Metairie, Nassau Drive Jane Doe, WhtFem 15-16, dress, heeled shoes, business cards, Jul'79

[Sweetluv]

Did the brown purse contain anything besides the interpersonal cards? Was there lipstick, hairbrush..anything that could be tested today for DNA? ( and that's if LE even kept these items) Motel key?

 

[Sweetluv]

July 22, 1979..thinking of this young girl!

 

[theshadow45]

Old Metairie Jane Doe has been unidentified for 46 years today.

 

[Sweetluv]

Do we know if the contents of her purse were collected and stored somewhere? These items would be great to test.
The surrounding Hotels...I assume LE showed her picture to front desk staff and housekeepers..maybe she actually had a room there.
Apparently, she was groomed and well dressed..doesn't sound like she was living on the streets.

 

[alucardsdream]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Is this her NamUs? Or are there two Jane Doe cases from the same day? The date matches but the info seems off as there is no clothing description and the age range is older.

 

[The4TierBridge]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Is this her NamUs? Or are there two Jane Doe cases from the same day? The date matches but the info seems off as there is no clothing description and the age range is older.

UP6942 used to say the person was found on September 11. That might be the same person actually. How odd.

 

[alucardsdream]

UP6942 used to say the person was found on September 11. That might be the same person actually. How odd.

If it is her at least we know they saved her mandible/maxilla for ID purposes so there's a chance genetic genealogy could be used. It's so sad that she's been unidentified for so long.

 

[kforbes862]

Do any of you think that getting lsu faces lab involved would help in any way? I have thought a couple of times about getting in touch with them about this case

 

[AirForceVet24]

I maybe of some help.

Back in February, I submitted a match to the LSU Faces lab for UP6942 and Phylis Marie Corbin. I ended up getting an email from Dr. Allaire from the LSU Faces lab and spoke to her over the phone. Indeed, UP6942 had been tested 3 times prior in order to get solid DNA. These attempts were unsuccessful. The remains themselves were cremated in 1996ish. The LSU Faces lab however was planning to try again either this year or next year to extract DNA from the mouth or aka mandible, According to Dr. Allaire, the LSU Faces lab could NOT rule out Phyllis Marie Corbin. The only exclusion was Mary Shinn based upon Dentals which Phyllis does not have.

It is my opinion, that the Old Metaire Jane Doe and UP6942 are one in the same. I have tried several times since to get ahold of Dr. Allaire but have been unsuccessful. It might be worth a call though to verify that they are one in the same.

 

[alucardsdream]

I maybe of some help.

Back in February, I submitted a match to the LSU Faces lab for UP6942 and Phylis Marie Corbin. I ended up getting an email from Dr. Allaire from the LSU Faces lab and spoke to her over the phone. Indeed, UP6942 had been tested 3 times prior in order to get solid DNA. These attempts were unsuccessful. The remains themselves were cremated in 1996ish. The LSU Faces lab however was planning to try again either this year or next year to extract DNA from the mouth or aka mandible, According to Dr. Allaire, the LSU Faces lab could NOT rule out Phyllis Marie Corbin. The only exclusion was Mary Shinn based upon Dentals which Phyllis does not have.

It is my opinion, that the Old Metaire Jane Doe and UP6942 are one in the same. I have tried several times since to get ahold of Dr. Allaire but have been unsuccessful. It might be worth a call though to verify that they are one in the same.

Phyllis definitely sounds more like a match to the info listed in NamUs for UP6942, which is different than the info in the listing for this Doe on the Doe Network. I'm not sure where the 15 to 16 age estimate came from for this Doe...Phyllis would have been twice that age in 1979, since she was 16 when she went missing in 1963.

 

[The4TierBridge]

Do any of you think that getting lsu faces lab involved would help in any way? I have thought a couple of times about getting in touch with them about this case

That sounds like a good idea. The case numbers for them listed in NamUs is LSU 08-29-11.

 

[AirForceVet24]

Phyllis definitely sounds more like a match to the info listed in NamUs for UP6942, which is different than the info in the listing for this Doe on the Doe Network. I'm not sure where the 15 to 16 age estimate came from for this Doe...Phyllis would have been twice that age in 1979, since she was 16 when she went missing in 1963.

I think Phyllis would have been in her early 30s? if my math is right? But she was for sure involved in prostitution and she was known to be in Metaire along with the downtown New Orleans area. The height and weight adds up to her as well from the Old Metaire Jane Doe and the sketching of that Jane Doe looks similar to how Phyllis would have looked.

 

[Friday Fan]

I think Phyllis would have been in her early 30s? if my math is right? But she was for sure involved in prostitution and she was known to be in Metaire along with the downtown New Orleans area. The height and weight adds up to her as well from the Old Metaire Jane Doe and the sketching of that Jane Doe looks similar to how Phyllis would have looked.

It's worth a shot, but I don't think it's her.
The UID, doesn't fit the lifestyle of someone who lived Phyllis's life almost 15 years prior. (If indeed that was her that arrested in 1965) At that age, she probably would have been placing ads as an escort instead of going door to door. She probably would have moved on and started working at bars or gone from thing to thing and possibly getting into relationships etc....Maybe finding other ways of earning money and surviving.

It sounds like the UID had enough "cash on hand" to do what she was doing and may have just been getting started. What the UID was doing likely would not have been very lucrative. I think Phyllis probably wouldn't have made that venture.

Of course, the story about her knocking on doors may not have been true/accurate and the UID may have been an actual escort from a service.


If our UID was indeed knocking on doors, she may have held a few jobs before this venture (such fast food or something) and was lured by "easy money".

Phyllis's thread:

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MO Thread 'MO - Phyllis Corbin, 16, St. Louis, 1 Nov 1963'

Oct 17, 2018

MISSING
Missing Person / NamUs #MP50556Phyllis Marie Corbin, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactNovember 1, 1963
Missing FromSt. Louis, Missouri

Case Information


Case Numbers
NCMEC Number1334372
Demographics
Missing Age16 Years
Current Age71 Years
First Name Phyllis
Middle NameMarie
Last NameCorbin
Nickname/Alias--

SexFemale
Race / EthnicityWhite / Caucasian
Height5' 5" - 5' 8" (65 - 68 Inches)
Weight100 - 155 lbs...

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However, it is worth a short to get them compared.

 

[alucardsdream]

I think Phyllis would have been in her early 30s? if my math is right? But she was for sure involved in prostitution and she was known to be in Metaire along with the downtown New Orleans area. The height and weight adds up to her as well from the Old Metaire Jane Doe and the sketching of that Jane Doe looks similar to how Phyllis would have looked.

Yeah, I figure she's about twice the age of this Doe, although the age estimate in NamUs for UP 6942 (which may or may not be this Doe, but has the same DOD listed) is 18 to 25 years as opposed to 15 to 16. I'm not sure if there were two UID found on the same day or not, but if this Doe isn't UP 6942 then she isn't in NamUs. The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[AirForceVet24]

Weirdly enough for UP6942 we actually have a map on Namus on where she was found which differs from where the Metaire Jane Doe was found. But why would the records change for 6942?

 

[Friday Fan]

Weirdly enough for UP6942 we actually have a map on Namus on where she was found which differs from where the Metaire Jane Doe was found. But why would the records change for 6942?

The address is always a govt building. Where I live (in Bexar County) it's always the Medical Examiner's office.

Small town could be an all-in-one govt building etc.


ETA: In this case, it's in a swamp in the middle of nowhere. NAMUS has weird stuff like that. All I know, is that it never seems to be where a body was actually found.

ETA: So in Bexar County, they are now giving pins to actual locations, but one that I know of in my signature below is "off" by a mile, because we have an actual address She was found found in a drainage ditch in the 1600 block of Cornerway Boulevard, but the pin goes to a lumber yard which was very likely there and locked at night back in 1990.

 

[The4TierBridge]

Weirdly enough for UP6942 we actually have a map on Namus on where she was found which differs from where the Metaire Jane Doe was found. But why would the records change for 6942?

It maps to wherever the geographical center of the county/city is if no coordinates are entered.

 

[AirForceVet24]

Thank you all so very much for letting me know of that. I had always assumed that it was mapped to where the unidentified were found more or less.

 

[Friday Fan]

@MadMcGoo

I lived in Old Metairie a very long time ago for a short period. There's even a street named after my family. ONLY a local would know where Nassau Drive is. Only a Jefferson parish or border between Orleans and Jefferson would know.

Can you please pm me? I have some info that may or may not be relevant and I don’t want to put it on an open forum. Merci
Tony

I agree. Looking at the map, I expected the neighborhood to be gated, but it wasn't. Very nice, very exclusive area. An outsider would not feel comfortable in this area! They would not want to take the risk of possible security in the area.


I will link the nearby country club, so not to implicate a homeowner. General address is in the OP and Doe Network. Scroll the neighborhood to get a sense. Doubt if this was a sleezy "out of towner" staying in a cheap motel who did this.

Metairie Country Club · 580 Woodvine Ave, Metairie, LA 70005

Not implicating someone who lived in the neighborhood. Back then, access the the golf course could have been a possibility. Now there is a wall, but going back on google street view there was a fence.

There is also a "service alley" off of Northline as you enter the subdivision. That also may have been access area.

 

[Sweetluv]

The weapon used was a pen knife. Doesn't seem like a weapon of choice so I tend to believe it was spontaneous and not planned out. She was also stabbed over 30 times..like a fit of rage. Maybe more personal then random.