LA - Vehicle drives through New Year's crowd - Multiple fatalities reported - Bourbon Street New Orleans - January 1 2025

[Chimera]

I can understand, and support, your point.

As a side note in support of your observation.....

The founding "godfather" of Egypt's Islamic Brotherhood was either a medical doctor, or an engineer- all with good life options. Likewise, Mohammad Attah, the lead pilot on 9/11, and who had brought Al Queda's dormant "Planes" plan back to life with a "we can actually do it attitude" was a German educated civil engineer. And.... the terrorist who duped and beheaded Daniel Pearl had an elite level university education (economics?) from the United Kingdom.

It is so infuriating when people who've had better options in life (wealth, education, marriages/children) choose to not only throw it away, but to take as many down as possible.
Imo.

 

[Sundog]

I did notice she wasn't at the last presser so I'm assuming she's been relieved of being in charge

I sure hope so.

 

[Chimera]

After the terrorist attacks in Nice France (2016), and the more recent one in 2024 in Germany -- LE should be on the highest alert anytime there's a crowded outdoor celebration.
I'm sure there's some I'm missing between 2016 and 2024.

This was preventable , and that has to be the most hurtful fact for the relatives and friends of the survivors.
Forget about focusing only on the bollards or barriers.
They could have driven a dump truck to block off opposite ends of the street, and used cop cars for the narrower exits !
How hard was it to grasp that concept ?
The blame lies on the murderer.
But much more could've been done to keep these people's lives safe.
Omo.

 

[GRT]

Oh I agree @Arkay we should always try to take all the precautions we can. I just was more commenting on the over focus on the bollards as if THAT would have stopped this man if they were there instead of police cars blocking the way. It seems they would not have either due to him going on the sidewalk and right into people in front the of the police. I don't want the focus to be on how this would not have happened if those things would have been there because with what we know right now, it seems it still would have been possible. he sure did walk the coolers right in. Not sure why they didn't go off, but maybe he didn't detonate them or in the aftermath of him crashing he just started shooting instead of remembering he was going to detonate the IEDs.. if he did detonate them, many more would have been harmed/killed.

I think some just want to find something to blame other than the terrorist. They are more upset that bollards were being replaced and not up than they are that a man decided to commit this horrific act. These evil doers seem to find ways around the safety measures we take. It's sad that LE and those charged with trying to make places as safe as can be have to get all the things right 100% of the time and the terrorist just has to get it right once.

I too would like to know why the IEDs didn't detonate. Did they malfunction? Did he think he'd have more time? I guess we'll never know.

I don't think people want someone other than the terrorist to blame -- I just think they want to imagine that he could have been thwarted. But, that's typically a practice in futility.

Still, it's good to talk about the lack of bollard security because that might lead to someone else -- in the future -- not dying at the hands of another terrorist.

Your last sentence sums it up very well. We can take all sorts of security measures, but a determined terrorist will likely find a way to kill innocents.

 

[Sundog]

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/03/01/468692846/osama-bin-ladens-will-29-million-that-should-be-spent-on-jihad

Yes, and let it be remembered that Osama Bin-Laden was a member of one of the wealthiest families in Saudi Arabia, one of many children of a father who constructed a great deal of buildings there, and that Osama was no incel with his four wives and multiple offspring.

There are IMO no excuses. Islamic terrorists believe they are called to wipe out “infidels” from the Earth.

A street where people are drinking and partying is anathema to them and they tell us so in no uncertain terms. Particularly a street in America which they have deemed “the Great Satan.”

JMO plus facts

Agree, 100%. No excuses for Mr. Jabbar. Who cares if he couldn't pay his bills and was living in a run-down trailer park. He made those choices, including the choices he made right up to the end of the lives of the innocent victims he murdered and the state and nation he chose to terrorize due to his radical Islamic terrorist beliefs. He's no victim in any sense of the word.

 

[CHEL]

All 14 Bourbon Street terror attack victims identified

Victims of the New Year’s Day Bourbon Street attack have been identified

www.fox8live.com

 

[BrianJohnson]

After the terrorist attacks in Nice France (2016), and the more recent one in 2024 in Germany -- LE should be on the highest alert anytime there's a crowded outdoor celebration.
I'm sure there's some I'm missing between 2016 and 2024.

This was preventable , and that has to be the most hurtful fact for the relatives and friends of the survivors.
Forget about focusing only on the bollards or barriers.
They could have driven a dump truck to block off opposite ends of the street, and used cop cars for the narrower exits !
How hard was it to grasp that concept ?
The blame lies on the murderer.
But much more could've been done to keep these people's lives safe.
Omo.

Agree with everything, given the distance he travelled he must have known about the lack of security measures, how he did is another matter but he must have known the security arrangements/lack of

 

[Chimera]

Agree with everything, given the distance he travelled he must have known about the lack of security measures, how he did is another matter but he must have known the security arrangements/lack of

Yes -- I want to know how Shamsuds knew the barriers were not going to be in place ?
He didn't live in the area and was there for only a day or two at the Air BNB before carrying out his vile plan ?
Omo.

 

[Sundog]

As for Jabbar being on a six figure salary, his living in a run down trailer might indicate that either he was not truly making 100K plus- or he had enough debts to make a good portion of his salary effectively meaningless.

<Snipped for focus>

Or he couldn't manage his money and blew it all on other things and not his rent or mortgage or bills or families. It was posted upthread awhile back that one of his wives filed for divorce because of this.

 

[Chimera]

All 14 Bourbon Street terror attack victims identified

Victims of the New Year’s Day Bourbon Street attack have been identified

www.fox8live.com

Thanks for the update, @CHEL .

Rest in peace to the newly-identified Terry and Billy.

Innocent people with hopes for the future -- like any of the rest of us, who were celebrating a new year.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

In a statement released Friday, Andre Haddad said he is heartbroken and outraged that the two men, Matthew Alan Livelsberger, 37, and Shamsud-Din Jabbar, 42, “abused our platform.” He added both men “had valid driver’s licenses, clean criminal backgrounds, and were decorated U.S. military servicemembers.”
https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local...cybertruck-bombing-new-orleans-terror-attack/

 

[Sundog]

dbm

 

[CHEL]

He was going to the French Quarter before New Year's Day attack. His mom still can't find him.

Torie Harris, 27, of New Orleans, was last seen Tuesday night when he told a family member he was heading to the French Quarter to hang out for New Year's, his mother said.

www.nola.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Vehicle found getting towed outside New Orleans attacker suspect's home in northwest Harris County

HOUSTON – KPRC 2 is learning more information on what prompted federal agents to return to a New Orleans attack suspect’s home in northwest Harris County on Friday

Whose car was towed outside New Orleans attacker’s Harris County home?

KPRC 2 is working to learn more about a vehicle our Sky 2 helicopter saw get towed outside Shamsud-Din Jabbar's home, where federal agents said they returned to the scene.

www.click2houston.com

NBC affiliate KPRC 2 Houston reported that a SWAT team brought several people, including children, out of a home. A man was also seen surrendering to SWAT, according to KPRC

Texas authorities return to home of New Orleans terror attack suspect

Federal and local authorities first descended on a home in Houston, Texas, Wednesday. They said the property was believed to be the home of the suspect in the terror attack on New Year's Day in New Orleans.

www.wdsu.com

Jabbar had placed two improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, along Bourbon Street, deputy assistant director of the FBI's counterintelligence division, Christopher Raia, said at a briefing Thursday. Raia said the devices were found in coolers, and were active at the time, but were "rendered safe" by law enforcement. A person familiar with the investigation told CBS News that the devices were rudimentary pipe bombs that contained shrapnel including nails, screws and tacks.

Bomb-making materials found at Texas home of New Orleans attacker; items detonated at Airbnb, officials say

Federal investigators previously said they had found two IEDs near the site of the New Orleans truck attack.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[indicolite22]

Oh, he wasn't moderate. He was evil. He was an extremist. Those can be found in all religions. And we know he was a terrorist.

Along with his Koran(s), he had a Bible and other religious texts.

Being "devout" doesn't make one an Islamist. An Islamist is a true believer who thinks Islam should be the law of the land--and they're willing to kill for that cause.

Jabbar wasn't focused like that -- he said his original plan was to kill his family. There's no political statement there, however.

So, and this is just MOO, he was an evil bast*rd, and he was Muslim, obviously, but I don't think he was an Islamist in the truest sense of the word.

I wasn't implying that being devout was wrong as such, but rather that (IMO) he did not pretend to be driven by extremist religious beliefs to mask his evil nature. He made them known by declaring his allegiance to ISIS. How more Islamist can you get?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Five years before a man in a pickup mowed down dozens of New Year’s revelers in New Orleans, a confidential security report warned that the iconic Bourbon Street tourist strip was vulnerable to a “vehicular ramming” attack.

The assessment, prepared by a security firm in November 2019 for the group that manages the city’s French Quarter, warned that the bollards designed to block vehicles from entering Bourbon Street did “not appear to work.” The New York security firm recommended fixing the barriers immediately, and said that “the two modes of terror attack likely to be used are vehicular ramming and active shooting.”

The public version focuses on long-running complaints about rowdiness and crime in the French Quarter, and makes just one reference to the threat of terrorism. The concerns about a vehicular ramming attack and malfunctioning bollards were in a confidential portion of the report that was not released publicly

Could Better Security Have Stopped the New Orleans Terror Attack?

City officials were warned in 2019 that the bollards designed to block vehicles did “not appear to work.” They were being fixed when a truck rammed through Bourbon Street on Wednesday.

www.nytimes.com

3 pages:

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/254803bd64ff87ea/fc56ff29-full.pdf

 

[Arkay]

It's sad that LE and those charged with trying to make places as safe as can be have to get all the things right 100% of the time and the terrorist just has to get it right once.

Your last sentence sums it up very well. We can take all sorts of security measures, but a determined terrorist will likely find a way to kill innocents

Both of these are true.

Nevertheless, although I know I’m becoming quite repetitive, what is the reason no terrorist truck mowed down people in Times Square on New Year’s Eve?

It is because, as I’ve said (too) many times , the NYPD creates a frozen zone in a very wide perimeter around Times Square proper and extending for many blocks in all directions.

I’m very aware that a terrorist can attack, especially in a target city like here in NYC, but the use of sanitation trucks, cement trucks and other heavy-duty vehicles parked perpendicular to the streets are effective at prohibiting speeding cars or trucks from reaching the crowds.

They can’t attack the sidewalks either because again, no traffic at all is allowed in.

If an ambulance needs to come in, the NYPD will move its protective vehicle out of the way to allow ingress and egress and then immediately close it up again.

Also being repetitive, I solely blame the terrorist for the attack. But frankly I am aghast that the police chief of all New Orleans is saying things like she didn’t know about the Archer barricades, that they had a plan but the terrorist “defeated” it, and that the people who were crushed to death “did not die in vain.”

It’s been said by the government ever since September 11, 2001 that LE has to be right 100% of the time but terrorists only have to get it “right” once.

That is true, true, true, but I don’t believe that the NOLA PD was taking this event seriously enough.

It’s easy to be lulled into a false sense of security, but IMO there’s no excuse when the FBI and Homeland Security had already apprised police nationwide to be aware of possible vehicular attacks on soft targets during the holidays.

JMO again.

ETA: @imstilla.grandma I just now saw your document above…thank you for providing that.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The would-be attacker “began to immerse himself in a virtual world of violent videos and secret chatrooms devoted to the Islamic State," according to reporting in the Washington Post.

Some corners of the dark web serve as "one-stop shops" for would-be attackers.

“They act as a conduit for others to share information, to share how to guides, tactics in bombmaking, surveillance, attacks, targets, and everything along those lines," said Baumgartner.

Jabbar’s former US Army commanding officer posted in disbelief on X following the New Orleans attack - citing Jabbar’s professionalism while in the army. He commented, “This transformation is a stark reminder of the dangers of unchecked anger, isolation, and hate," before encouraging people to take care of each other before it’s too late.

Online radicalization a tough battleground for counterterrorism

The ISIS inspired attack in New Orleans, LA has put a new spotlight on the terror group once thought to be eliminated.

thenationaldesk.com

 

[Gemmie]

Jabbar likens music and playing instruments to “Satan’s Voice,”

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/new-orleans-truck-attack-01-03-25-hnk/index.html

 

[indicolite22]

Some corners of the dark web serve as "one-stop shops" for would-be attackers.

SBM. No need for foreign travel to get indoctrinated, unlike some politicians would like to make you believe.