FL Large amounts (over 100) of recently missing children in Florida. Dec 2024

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Aaccording to namus, In the Month of Nov 2024, 124 people under the age of 18 went missing and haven't been found. Is Florida just doing a better job at documenting runaways than most states, or is the number disproportionate to the rest of the country?
 
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Do we have stats per tot population for all States to be able to compare ?
 
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Do we have stats per tot population for all States to be able to compare ?
Some states have laws requiring cases to be added into namus, most dont. I dont know of a source that would have accurate info for each state
 
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A pity because would be extremely useful for crime trend analysis and comparison.
In any event, 124 is really high and worrying. Not sure one can really conclude though, as the number evolves (additions and removals are constant).
IMO runaway and traficking stats are increasing overall. Unfortunately.
 
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A pity because would be extremely useful for crime trend analysis and comparison.
In any event, 124 is really high and worrying. Not sure one can really conclude though, as the number evolves (additions and removals are constant).
IMO runaway and traficking stats are increasing overall. Unfortunately.
I agree. It's impossible to assess what the number means without knowing the criteria are used for a child to be considered "missing."
 
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It seems like the majority of cases appearing in NamUs lately are from FL. In my opinion that means they have decided to take missing reports seriously and add them to NamUs quickly. And other highly populated states just aren't doing that -- (possibly also on purpose to protect the minors' privacy, since most will return home eventually). All just my theory/speculation, though.
 
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Oh boy. I wrote a huge paragraph and felt like I went too much into personal detail. But basically what I wanted to say is that things are rough here. There’s a huge seedy aspect to life here - I wouldn’t even call it the ‘underground’. Anyone at any time can find entry into crime. Combine that with an incredibly glamorized view of crime, stripping, clubs, ‘trapping’, and combine THAT with poverty and/or abuse at home.

Also, I don’t think Florida is taken child endangerment cases more seriously, based on current personal experience (well… child of a girlfriend of an uncle). But maybe missing persons cases are being handled differently. I know they have not been taken seriously in the past.

IMO MOO
 
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But again, I don’t think one can base an analysis only on reported/solved cases. It is much more complex than that. Maybe there is some literature available from criminology studies, I’ll have a look asap.
 
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Aaccording to namus, In the Month of Nov 2024, 124 people under the age of 18 went missing and haven't been found. Is Florida just doing a better job at documenting runaways than most states, or is the number disproportionate to the rest of the country?
Sadly, that's a fairly valid number and not too far off from what is seen in other states. In 2023 the National Center for Missing Exploited Children (which Partners with the FBI in missing/endangered child cases) had 29,000 missing kids reported for the year 2023 which works out to be an average of about 50 kids per month per state, obviously some states with higher population densities and more urban areas having high numbers. Endangered Runaways FBI page with the involvement with the program and links for parents and other caregivers: https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/parents-and-caregivers-protecting-your-kids
 
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Go Florida go. I see this as LE taking these cases seriously and activating available technology to try to recover these kids, even if it negatively affects their metrics and press. Well done by them.
 
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It seems like the majority of cases appearing in NamUs lately are from FL. In my opinion that means they have decided to take missing reports seriously and add them to NamUs quickly. And other highly populated states just aren't doing that -- (possibly also on purpose to protect the minors' privacy, since most will return home eventually). All just my theory/speculation, though.
I've noticed that VERY FEW of the new cases from Florida have photos in NAMUS. Really not helpful.
 
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it's really making me wish for an exclusion by state on namus. I like fresh cases a lot of the time, this is junking everything up.

I assume this is a database that's being fed to namus automatically. don't get me wrong, these are important, but some of these with just a name and literally no other information? Ugh, yeah actually, all it needs is a way to exclude things. Wonder if i can tie that into a plugin.
 
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I've noticed that VERY FEW of the new cases from Florida have photos in NAMUS. Really not helpful.

I wonder if it's on purpose, to protect their privacy.
 
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don't get me wrong, these are important, but some of these with just a name and literally no other information?

There are cases with just a name now? I haven't seen that. Maybe they intend to update them later, as more information is obtained?
 
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Florida resident here, so an explanation - in 2023 the law changed to require all missing children's cases be reported to NCIC and NAMUS within two hours of receipt.

50 (b) Upon the filing of a credible police report that an
51 adult is missing, the law enforcement agency receiving the
52 report shall, within 2 hours after receipt of the report,
53 transmit the report for inclusion within the Florida Crime
54 Information Center, and the National Crime Information Center,
55 and the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System
56 databases.
There is also supposed to be a monthly review:
23 (c) Standards for maintaining and clearing computer data of
24 information concerning a missing child or missing adult which is
25 stored in the Florida Crime Information Center, and the National
26 Crime Information Center, and the National Missing and
27 Unidentified Persons System. The standards must require, at a
28 minimum, a monthly review of each case and a determination of
29 whether the case should be maintained in the database.

In my opinion, the two-hour reporting period is backfiring - it's being followed but they are too busy or need to dedicate a person to maintain the monthly review, but they are underfunded as it is. Many (most?) of the children are recovered within 24 hours.
 
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Florida resident here, so an explanation - in 2023 the law changed to require all missing children's cases be reported to NCIC and NAMUS within two hours of receipt.


There is also supposed to be a monthly review:


In my opinion, the two-hour reporting period is backfiring - it's being followed but they are too busy or need to dedicate a person to maintain the monthly review, but they are underfunded as it is. Many (most?) of the children are recovered within 24 hours.
is there any way to get on the namus team or apply to like... moderate or something? Same here on Websleuths; is there an easier way to mark a thread as found? I tend to sort by first posts, and it's annoying doing a first pass sometimes to scroll down to a "found" post
 
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