I have, my 18 yr old son. And exhausting doesn't even begin to describe it. Some kids just don't turn out the way you would like, even with the best parenting skills. I am flawed, like most other parents, but I have 3 other children who have turned out absolutely wonderfully. One is at college on full scholarship, another in the military, and the "baby" is a straight "A" student in high school. Never a lick of trouble, no drinking or drugs, stealing or lying... great, great kids.
.. but, my son has had his hand in everything. And takes no responsibility for anything he does. He will find a logical way [in his mind] of making everything he does someone else's fault. He has been in more programs than I can count, I've taken three different 10 wk long parenting courses for children with oppositional behaviour and "other" problems, in the hopes of gaining insight. Strategies up the yahoo.... and nothing. This son of mine lies and steals without remorse, has never learned what personal boundaries are [regardless of countless consequencing].. etc etc etc
I could go on and on, but my point is that as parents - none of us is perfect and it is very easy to take someone else's inventory when everything they have said or done has been under the glare of the public spotlight. I'd like to know just how the rest of us would come out of this particular wash. Here's where we get folks who'll say "My kid would never have done it in the first place, or if she/he had I would have done A, B, C and D"... but it's very easy to say that when we aren't in the position of it happening to us. Every criminal in the history of the universe was once someone's baby, and some of them were pretty nice, common folk ... on the outside. Many of them had very normal childhoods with no glaring red, flashing arrows pointing to the fact that they would commit an unforgiveable crime at some point in their adulthood.
Being in the unique position of having a teen with alot of issues, I do not blame these parents one iota. I have not always agreed with everything they have said or done, but my position affords me the latitude to err on the side of leniency with regards to their actions. To me they have done the best they could at any given time. I can't imagine myself not breaking and making a few faux pas under all the media scrutiny while protesters screamed obscenities and vulgar comments - all the while trying to come to terms with the fact that my grandbaby was missing and might not ever come home again.
...and that my daughter is responsible.
I just think we need to focus on the person who is responsible for this precious loss of life, and not criminalize the grandparents. I seem to be in the minority here, but that's jmo.
My heart goes out to you George and Cindy, may you both find some peace amidst the pain you now feel and the heartache that will surely accompany it in the coming months.
George is alive, Caylee is dead, and George is telling the News (ppl) that he doesn't know when or if he will be able to drive down suburban, give me a break. That was the point of my comment. So what go the other way and let it go, but to say that was so juvenile. They are so out of touch. just say en JMO
Yes, thanks, we assumed that's what was in the bags (don't know if it's been confirmed by LE)...now I'm really wondering if they found THE gas cans. Something is up about reporting them missing. Then discussion ad nauseam. If they were in the trunk they would have evidence of decomp on them...my mind is racing. Oh...can't go there. (Still trying to figure out all the "conflicting statements".)The police confiscated two of the gas cans that Casey had taken and then returned.
http://www.wesh.com/news/17110360/detail.html
maybe the tattered one was another spare or a borrowed one?
Yes - the A's needed to look into the camera and say 'bring Caylee home!' - Casey needed to do that, Baez needed to do that - the ONLY person who actually said into the camera 'drop Caylee off somewhere public' was LP
I think that the A's loved little Caylee also, I think they were in denial for a little while also - just having vigils for 20 or so people, meet and greets like celebrities with KFN and speaking to the press that they knew who had Caylee and they were watching them IS NOT pleading for her return. They did not plead for the babies return because they knew that Casey had done something to that child
I'm blind from reading the transcripts!! Never again!!Ugh!!!! I saw your post AFTER I'd looked for about 30 minutes and found the transcripts! Oh well, at least we came back with the same information, no conflicting statements LOL...hopefully you didn't spend as much time searching as I did!
No they had the cash. And you know what, no where in the SB interview that I just read did it say they had to leave and bring back cash. Where did we hear that? Do you remember?
Sorry...it's slightly OT.
What's so juvenile about knowing your sweet grand baby was dumped there, wrapped in a plastic bag and duct tape for six months. Does he need it rubbed in his face? I don't think so. He's suffering, give him some slack.
I know people who locked their child's door unable to enter the room in their house and it had nothing to do with bad memories due to the loss of the child, it was just too empty. It hurts. It means he is in touch with his raw feelings.
Serious?I know I am O/T here, but what about the daily news thread concerning there may be breaking news? Can anyone update what this is or might be? Thanks so much!
And your point is?
No mention of it. The detective said..."Oh they had the cash"...SB said, "yes". Maybe there's another interview.I watched NG last night and they discussed this. GA went and when they wouldnt' take check/cc he had to get cash and returned a couple hours later with Cindy and cash.
I probably wasn't clear. My point was that it is one thing to state the A's should have the benefit of our well wishes, but it is my opinion that they HAVE done NOTHING to warrant giving them a break while they grieve. While they grieve they have not been forth coming in any way, as far as we can tell. It appears that the facts and evidence about the loss of their grandchild have been discovered IN SPITE of their attempts to divert and confuse. I am all for them getting a break when they do what is right instead of the smoke and mirrors they provide.
No truth, no breaks....grieve when you do the right thing by your beloved granddaughter.
Hmmmm. I think I took too many harsh pills today. Sigh.....
Serious?
Florida & Louisiana (where I live) are both "hurricane" states - having numerous gas cans is a way of life for people here. When Katrina came thru, couldn't find gas anywhere (or gas cans, for that matter), people were selling gas cans full of fuel on the side of the road & making a killing. No electricity for days - it was common to fill up 12 or more gas cans to run the generator on for several days before the next fuel run.
My point is it is probably very painful for George to drive past the place where his granddaughter's body decomposed for six months.
I would feel the same way and it's not immature or juvenile for him to feel that way. Many people do when they lose loved ones on the road or in a public place.
Serious?
No, they're just bumping the thread up IN CASE there is some "breaking news".I know I am O/T here, but what about the daily news thread concerning there may be breaking news? Can anyone update what this is or might be? Thanks so much!
A poster in the Parking Lot hinted about breaking news. There were no other details.
Did you ever get the impression that George had lots of gas cans? I'm trying to remember the video showing the inside of the shed.
Me, I have only one.
It's been 7 months...I think people can say how they feel about the situation. We all understand what's transpired. There are many on here who know all too well how it feels. Maybe that's why they can give a different perspective. Maybe that's why it does seem "odd" or "different than the norm". They do know.What would please you? For them to come out and publicly state their daughter is scum? A killer? This is a lot for them to absorb. I can't imagine they are able to get through this without being sedated! They have to be going through every single emotion at the same time from grief,pain,guilt, sadness,longing, anger,confusion, embarasment, humiliation,heartbroken,....just to name a few. Can you imagine? Yes, they deserve a break. They are victims in this. Much as many would like to hypothesize that they covered up a crime...there is no proof of that and not even circumstantial evidence of such. So people don't like the way they have dealt with this? We can only assume and state what we would do...but until we have been there (and God I hope none of us ever will be)...we really can't say without a doubt how we would act and feel under the same circumstance as they.