Laura Babcock: Dellen Millard & Mark Smich charged w/Murder in the First Degree #1

[SnooperDuper]

The original post is still there and was not posted by LE. If you go to the Help us find Laura Facebook page, you will see which friend posted on The Dirty about LB missing. Scroll down to the comments under SL's post on November 12, 2012. (I really don't think LE would say they "read the site loyally" and "my missing friend".)

I didn't see any comments about DM on there, only the ones suggesting where to look, but The Dirty wouldn't really have too many people following a murder case on it. It's main purpose seems to be just allowing anonymous people to trash other people publicly, for whatever reason they feel the need to do that.

JMO

Actually there are a few other unfortunate women who have been murdered who have had their situations posted on the Dirty (and the solutions/accused's name as well)

 

[matou]

Wasn't Noudga in the dirty or dirtyphonebook?

 

[matou]

Noudga was in the dirtyphonebook but the page is gone now. Referred to here in this post, and like the LB comments in the dirty, I remember seeing them.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...tina-Noudga-Accessory&p=10436333#post10436333

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Has there been anything to indicate LE did not talk to DM shortly after LB's disappearance? Perhaps they did talk to DM but he was able to concoct some story to take the heat off of himself. Did he tell LE she was a mess, looking for a place to stay and drugs and he refused her both? Or did he say he gave her money to get herself a room somewhere, encouraged her to go home to her parents? If he came across as a great guy trying to help his friend out, LE wouldn't necessarily focus on him any more. MOO.

bbm


http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...ck_leaves_lingering_questions_for_police.html

Millard’s criminal defence lawyer, Deepak Paradkar , says police have never interviewed Millard about Babcock.

 

[matou]

DM was never interviewed about Laura after his arrest. What about after Laura went missing?

 

[Tamarind]

DM was never interviewed about Laura after his arrest. What about after Laura went missing?

The link says :

Millard’s criminal defence lawyer, Deepak Paradkar , says police have never interviewed Millard about Babcock.

Never would mean never as in not ever IMO

The article was written in June 2014 at least three months after Dellen was arrested for LB alleged murder (no body)

It should also be noted imo that it has NEVER been proven who LB planned on taking as a guest to a wedding. She said a photographer. DM is not known as a photographer ( other than having snapped a few pics at a hangar) and is definitely not employed as one or who has an existing business where he sells his ability as one. We still do not know who this new boyfriend really was. Surmising it was DM is not something that counts as fact in my opinion, based on the lack of any evidence to support this rather far fetched claim.

 

[Kamille]

Dellen Millard’s lawyer Deepak Paradkar says that as far as he knows, Millard was not interviewed when Babcock disappeared and he hasn’t been questioned about it since his arrest.

Meanwhile, Hamilton homicide detectives are also examining a photo gallery posted on a paid adult website credit Dellen Millard as the photographer.

http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/more-qu...illard-emerge-as-police-investigate-1.1287627

Ryan hadn’t seen his niece for a couple years, but he spoke to her on the phone just weeks before she disappeared.

And during that conversation, his niece talked about a new boyfriend, a man Ryan now believes was Millard.

“My wife and I both think it was Dellen she was talking about because she referred to him being a pilot and a photographer,” Ryan said. “She also mentioned he was wealthy.”

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/09/10/search-continues-on-farm-of-tim-bosmas-accused-killer

 

[cansleuther]

…we didn’t want her to come with a brand new boyfriend to the wedding, just, it didn’t seem right to me.

I was worried about not causing any scene at my wedding and new boyfriends…

http://www.chch.com/toronto-police-still-searching-millard-farm/


LB’s uncle did not want LB to bring a “new” boyfriend to his wedding out of fear it would somehow cause a scene. It seems odd that LB didn't also mention that this “new beau” was also her long time friend - a friend that that her mother had met twice. Why wouldn't she have utilized this information to persuade her uncle to allow her to bring him? Surely knowing that the new boyfriend wasn't someone that she had just met would have allayed some of his concerns.

The woman and Mr. Millard had been friends for several years, Mr. Lerner said.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/missing-woman-reportedly-contacted-murder-suspect-dellen-millard-before-her-disappearance

Linda Babcock remembered Millard as a "polite and handsome" man who, to her knowledge, was never romantically involved with her daughter, although she said the two were friends.

She said she only met Millard twice and that he had been to the family's home before to pick up Babcock.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/missing-toronto-woman-s-parents-unfazed-by-millard-link-1.1354137


JMO

 

[Tamarind]

I have taken many photographs of family and of things that interest me. I have even been called upon to take pics of friends. I am happy to be credited as THE photographer but it doesn't make me A Photographer in the career sense of the word. JMO

To some people lawyers or business owners would be considered wealthy, who is to say what LBs interpretation of wealthy is?

 

[matou]

Well, Mrs Babcock was wrong about her daughter not being romantically involved with DM . She obviously did not know much about their relationship at all. To say he was polite and handsome is not really saying much. JMO

 

[matou]

DM was credited as being the photographer for Josie the model in her Suicide Girl pics. Whether he was talented or not is another matter.

 

[Tamarind]

DM was credited as being the photographer for Josie the model in her Suicide Girl pics. Whether he was talented or not is another matter.

He was the photographer not a photographer. I have taken pics for people to use on their websites, I still would not classify myself as a photographer. Calling someone a photographer indicates to me that photography is their career. I would hardly imagine LB needed to identify DM as a photographer when clearly she could have called him an aviation heir or a pilot JMO

 

[SnooperDuper]

LE said in a news conference that although DM was the last person to have contact with LB by phone call, someone had contact with her by a different means after that.

Perhaps MS was the final contact of LB, and he lured her somewhere where DM killed her.

Perhaps that last non-phone-call contact was DM again, by text, which would be on the record too.

 

[Tamarind]

LE said in a news conference that although DM was the last person to have contact with LB by phone call, someone had contact with her by a different means after that.

Perhaps MS was the final contact of LB, and he lured her somewhere where DM killed her.

Perhaps that last non-phone-call contact was DM again, by text, which would be on the record too.

Perhaps someone as yet unknown or a mysterious photographer had the final contact and persuaded her to go out for the evening.

Perhaps the last phone call was not answered but an earlier one was, and she met that individual.

If LE is saying she had contact by a different means, it would suggest by text, Facebook, email or that she met someone while out. JMO

I dont see any obvious DM connection. <modsnip> JMO

 

[swedie]

bbm


http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...ck_leaves_lingering_questions_for_police.html

Millard&#8217;s criminal defence lawyer, Deepak Paradkar , says police have never interviewed Millard about Babcock.

Personally I take what DP said with a grain of salt. Remember, he's the guy who also told us DM is not guilty. He's made many claims which don't seem to ring true. JMO.

 

[swedie]

He was the photographer not a photographer. I have taken pics for people to use on their websites, I still would not classify myself as a photographer. Calling someone a photographer indicates to me that photography is their career. I would hardly imagine LB needed to identify DM as a photographer when clearly she could have called him an aviation heir or a pilot JMO

Did one stop to think DM himself claimed to be a photographer, professional or otherwise. He does have quite the list of career aspirations. Might just be a lunch bag let down for him to find out people are once again dissing him. He was obviously proud enough to name himself as the photographer in Josie's photographs, should we negate this possible claim also? What's so wrong with being a photographer? MOO.

Raised as an only child by divorced parents, he dabbled in various careers but never committed himself to one.

His professional resumé depicts an incongruous collection of career aspirations.
He took college courses ranging from makeup artistry to culinary arts to animation, he says.

&#8220;I spend time outside the cell in my head,&#8221; he says. &#8220;I re-enact movies in my head. It was Jurassic Park last night.&#8221;

And he devises business ideas.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...didnt_kill_tim_bosma_exclusive_interview.html

photographer
/f&#601;&#712;t&#594;&#609;r&#601;f&#601;/
noun
1.
a person who takes photographs, either as a hobby or a profession

 

[SnooperDuper]

Personally I take what DP said with a grain of salt. Remember, he's the guy who also told us DM is not guilty. He's made many claims which don't seem to ring true. JMO.

I wonder if DP and RP have been properly retained by DM. If it was some financial difficulty, surely now that all the properties have been totally liquidated, they can sort that out.

If that's not it, what is? Something to do with DP and MWJ or what?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Did one stop to think DM himself claimed to be a photographer, professional or otherwise. He does have quite the list of career aspirations. Might just be a lunch bag let down for him to find out people are once again dissing him. He was obviously proud enough to name himself as the photographer in Josie's photographs, should we negate this possible claim also? What's so wrong with being a photographer? MOO.

Raised as an only child by divorced parents, he dabbled in various careers but never committed himself to one.

His professional resumé depicts an incongruous collection of career aspirations.
He took college courses ranging from makeup artistry to culinary arts to animation, he says.

&#8220;I spend time outside the cell in my head,&#8221; he says. &#8220;I re-enact movies in my head. It was Jurassic Park last night.&#8221;

And he devises business ideas.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...didnt_kill_tim_bosma_exclusive_interview.html

photographer
/f&#601;&#712;t&#594;&#609;r&#601;f&#601;/
noun
1.
a person who takes photographs, either as a hobby or a profession

Makeup artistry to culinary arts to animation...Jurassic Park...it's so bizarre, on one hand he's like a big kid at 27 OTOH he's an alleged serial killer.

 

[Sillybilly]

IIRC, at approx. 19 y.o. DM was into photography to the extent he had a copyright on that pic of Josie, and AB's online article indicated that DM, Josie's ex-bf, had been her "aspiring photographer boyfriend":

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/tag/dellen-millard/page/3

Can't judge a book by its cover ... author Ann Rule thought her friend Ted Bundy, up and coming lawyer, volunteer on the crisis line, assistant to the governor of Washington, was intelligent, handsome, charming and polite.

 

[Kamille]

LE said in a news conference that although DM was the last person to have contact with LB by phone call, someone had contact with her by a different means after that.

Perhaps MS was the final contact of LB, and he lured her somewhere where DM killed her.

Perhaps that last non-phone-call contact was DM again, by text, which would be on the record too.

Perhaps it was an email, text or facebook post and she mentioned to whomever it was what her plan was for the day/evening.

LE never looked into anything in regards to her phone or online records prior to DM and MS's arrests. They obviously looked into it then and both are now charged with her murder as well.

MOO