Laura Babcock Murder Trial 10.25.17 - Day 3

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Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago

Dungey asks if Liberatore has overdosed a half dozen times? No, maybe six, he says. Most recently a few months ago. #Babcock

BBM :laughing: Alrighty then.....glad we got that straightened out.....

 

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Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
"A point" is a unit of measurement for opioids on the street, we are learning. Usually Liberatore does one or two points. #Babcock

1 point ~= 100 mg (i.e., 0 point 1 (0.1) grams)

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Liberatore doesn't know how many points he took the times he overdosed. Dungey is probing the drug history in a gentle voice.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Opioids give Liberatore a "warm, pleasant feeling," he tells Dungey. Does he not know what's happening until he comes out of it? "I guess"

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Liberatore was not high when he stole sunglasses, but in withdrawal, he says. That was the offence that led him to tell police about #Smich

 

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Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Liberatore changed homes a lot, stole, etc "to get my fix" he tells Dungey. Says "I'm not cured," after a series of monotone "yeah" answers

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
"It's unfortunate," Liberatore says of his drug addiction and broken relationship with parents. He doesn't know what drugs #Smich did.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Liberatore agrees he is "oblivious" to what is going on around him when he is high. Back to the sunglasses theft now.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
"I got lots of info on drug dealers," Liberatore told police after his arrest. It wasn't enough to help beat the charges, he agrees

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
So Liberatore told police he had information on a homicide, went to court and got sentenced to probation "or something like that."

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Withdrawal means "you get cold and sweaty." Mental state? "You want the drugs." Liberatore agrees that's why he wanted out of custody.

 

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Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Dungey points out that Liberatore's trouble at home, stealing, is because of his drug problem. He agrees.

Long pauses between tweets. I'm saving a few at a time instead of posting every one individually (hope that's OK)

 

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Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Liberatore was aware of the disappearance of Laura Babcock, after it hit the media, he agrees. Probably found out through social media.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
"But it was a pretty big case." Liberatore knew there was insinuation that #Babcock had been burned. Or not. He is confused right now.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
"I don't know if the incinerator was mentioned," Liberatore says slowly, loudly, deliberately. "I put two and two together."

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Dungey keeps calling victim "Linda #Babcock," who is Laura's mom. She smiled at the correction.

 

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Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Dungey is asking Liberatore about his police statement, when he told them about Smich's rap song. Liberatore says he was in withdrawal.

Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Liberatore remembers Laura Babcock being in the media around the same time. He says he doesn't know if the incinerator was mentioned.

Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Liberatore says "he put two and two" together but is adamant he hadn't heard about the incinerator in the media.

Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Liberatore says he googled the Laura Babcock trial but he didn't read anything but the headlines.

Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Liberatore combative in the witness box, he said "none of your business" when Dungey asked which of his friends he'd talk to about the case

 

[Georgeo]

What is wrong with Smich. At about 25 years old, he shared this grave criminal act - with a 16 year old. What could possibly go wrong?

Smitch is showing his true colours at this trial... none of the scared, young man, traumatized that DM shot TB...... that he was trying to get us to believe.... here we see his true self.... doing the deed and bragging about it.... JMO.

 

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Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Liberatore combative in the witness box, he said "none of your business" when Dungey asked which of his friends he'd talk to about the case

Welllllll it is sort-of everyone's business, now isn't it?

 

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Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Liberatore is getting testy with Dungey. He thought #Babcock had been incinerated, putting 2 & 2 together remembering #Smich rap song

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Liberatore didn't read media about case since it started. "I wasn't in the mood." Won't name friends he talked to. "None of your business."

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
He did speak to one of the friends who had been in the garage, he admits, David Cronen. "I asked him what day he was testifying."

 

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Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Dungey keeps calling victim "Linda #Babcock," who is Laura's mom. She smiled at the correction.

RSBM :slap:

 

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Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
"We both were in the garage," Liberatore says of Cronen (still have to check that name) so they didn't talk about that. He says. Many times

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
"The second we left the garage we were talking about the garage. We talked about the garage many times in the past," Liberatore says

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
"It was a weird thing that happened in the garage. So we would talk about it." Liberatore also talked to parents about it.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Sunglasses theft was September 2013. Liberatore did not talk to police about what happened in the garage until then. #Babcock

 

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Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Liberatore says he's talked to many people about what happened in the garage because "it was a pretty crazy thing that happened."

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Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Dungey pressing Liberatore about another friend who was in the garage, and what they've talked about since.

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Shannon Martin
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"It was a weird thing that happened in the garage, so we talked about it" Desi Liberatore tells Smich's lawyer.

 

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Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
David Cronin is correct spelling of Liberatore friend. Also James Lewis was with them in the garage but doesn't still speak to them

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
A "blunt is a particularly big joint,"Dungey says, and Liberatore agrees. Plus schnapps. Doesn't think he was inebriated at Mark's garage.

[READER]
How does this witness appear in court? I am getting a picture of a drug street type th*g? Does he appear sober? Neat? Tidy?

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Appears sober, neat and tidy. Red runners, khakis, button down and a polo jacket. Clean cut & shaven.

 

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Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Dungey asking Liberatore about his state of mind when they were in the garage - because they were smoking pot and drinking schnapps.

Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Liberatore says "I remember what I remember."

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Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Dungey reads part of Liberatore's police statement, when he said his memory was foggy because he regularly "smoked myself into oblivion."

 

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Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
"Your memory is so foggy," Dungey says. "You constantly have to refer to your friends about what happened that night." Yeah, DL agrees.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
"I didn't drink that much alcohol that night." How can you remember if you were so oblivious? "I just remember not drinking much alcohol."

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Rap music is pretty common among Liberatore's age group. #Smich was rapping all the time. "He was a hip hop enthusiast," used the lingo

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
"It doesn't mean the rap is real, right?" Dungey asks if Liberatore was used to rap lyrics. Only remembers #Smich rapping the 1x in garage

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Dungey insists #Smich was always rapping. At least sometimes. Liberatore isn't sure. "Because your memory is so foggy?" I guess so. Angrily

 

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Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Dungey asking about Smich's rapping and rap in general. He says lyrics can be violent and "doesn't mean the lyrics are real"

Shannon Martin
@ShannonMartinTV
Liberatore agrees it can be entertainment.

 

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Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Liberatore sounds furious as he describes how he walked "up the driveway" then "into the garage door' at Dungey questions.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Can't say for certain that #Smich wasn't rapping when he walked in the garage door. "I don't think he was rapping." Dungey keeps asking

Liam Casey @liamdevlincasey
'We burned a girl and threw her in the lake,' Laura Babcock's trial hears
http://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pm...to-hear-testimony-about-her-financial-records

 

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Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Liberatore doesn't remember many specifics. Dungey is driving this home. #Babcock

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
"You'd never be in this courtroom today if you hadn't been charged with stealing those sunglasses, right?" Liberatore agrees.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
"We thought it was very odd. It's not every day someone talks about killing someone. Especially in a rap," Liberatore says.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
Liberatore agrees the friends didn't take #Smich seriously at first. Thought he was exaggerating about killing and burning a girl. #Babcock

 

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[JPC]

Welllllll it is sort-of everyone's business, now isn't it?

Clearly he thinks that the only time that he is obligated to sing is when he is giving evidence to get himself out of trouble. He better keep himself out of jail because I would hate to see what they would do to this snitch in jail. I believe that what he is saying to be true but he doesn’t come off as reliable. IMO


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