Laura Babcock Murder Trial 11.03.17 - Day 10

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  • #201
Sure but the judge had to clarify to the jury that the ipad was Laura's. I would hope the Crown would have made that perfectly clear since it is a major piece of evidence.

I still have no clarity on just what the jury has been told about that IPad with regards to ownership. I think it's very important to establish that SL LOANED the IPad to LB so that she could use it to look for an apartment. Shannon Martin has reported, more than once, that it was Laura's IPad that SL gave to her.

It's important because if the jury believes that SL gave her the IPad to keep, then it was also hers to sell. If she knew she had to return it, that's just one more reason why MS should not have been in possession of it.

MOO
 
  • #202
The photos taken in the first search in May showed the red bag on top of the mattress.

and MS was arrested that day so couldn't do something about it:

He executed a search warrant at a residence in Oakville, ON on May 22, 2013.
by Shannon Martin 10:17 AM
billandrew's timeline "May 22, 2013 – Mark Smich arrested at 10:00 am on Dorval Drive just north of Wyecroft"
 
  • #203
I still have no clarity on just what the jury has been told about that IPad with regards to ownership. I think it's very important to establish that SL LOANED the IPad to LB so that she could use it to look for an apartment. Shannon Martin has reported, more than once, that it was Laura's IPad that SL gave to her.

It's important because if the jury believes that SL gave her the IPad to keep, then it was also hers to sell. If she knew she had to return it, that's just one more reason why MS should not have been in possession of it.

MOO

BBM

Excellent Point!
 
  • #204
I still have no clarity on just what the jury has been told about that IPad with regards to ownership. I think it's very important to establish that SL LOANED the IPad to LB so that she could use it to look for an apartment. Shannon Martin has reported, more than once, that it was Laura's IPad that SL gave to her.

It's important because if the jury believes that SL gave her the IPad to keep, then it was also hers to sell. If she knew she had to return it, that's just one more reason why MS should not have been in possession of it.

MOO

Good point. Maybe someone who was in court can clarify what was stated to the jury about the ownership of the ipad.
 
  • #205
I know I am hearing people complain too about the pace. They are ahead in this trial. They are moving at a good pace. Another thing people keep asking for photos of MS and DM, I don't want to see any. The more things that we find out the more it makes me mad that no investigation was done about Laura s disappearance until Tim Bosma was killed. I don't know how they would have found out about MS before the Tim Bosma trial but they should have at least tried to investigate her disappearance.
 
  • #206
and MS was arrested that day so couldn't do something about it:
Crazy it sat there the whole time!

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  • #207
Hahaha so MS made up the dell.millard hotmail? Sure hope they have the contents of that email account. Moo

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But forgot to change the name tag on the bag?
 
  • #208
Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews now1 minute ago
"There is no identification required to use the device," Ryder explains. He can't say who touched the device, just what's on the device.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews now43 seconds ago
"Anybody coming along could pick it up and use it," #Millard says. #Babcock

Shannon Martin‏ @ShannonMartinTV now30 seconds ago
Millard says, "so the fact that certain email accounts connected to the device doesn't really mean anything?"

Shannon Martin‏ @ShannonMartinTV now17 seconds ago
Millard goes on, "it's like keys to a car, anyone can hop in and drive it."

Shannon Martin‏ @ShannonMartinTV now1 minute ago
The analyst says he can't comment who used it.
Millard is done. Mr. Dungey, Smich's lawyer stands.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews now42 seconds ago
Millard is done. Dungey now for #Smich, after conferring with his client. #Babock.
I can't believe he said anything about keys!
 
  • #209
Crazy it sat there the whole time!

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And while we didn't hear about it yet, I'm sure his attorney will twist that to his advantage. He had LB's bag and the IPad right there out in the open all that time because he got them from DM and he had NO IDEA that LB might be deceased. :rolleyes:

MOO
 
  • #210
I can't believe he said anything about keys!

That whole comment struck me as disturbing.

Shannon Martin‏ @ShannonMartinTV now17 seconds ago
Millard goes on, "it's like keys to a car, anyone can hop in and drive it."
 
  • #211
The fact the ipad was littered of pics of him and his gf...just sick
 
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"He who represents himself has a fool for a client."

- Abraham Lincoln
 
  • #214
This is when sleuthing is fun. I went to Google maps under the overpass of 4th line, asked to see 2012 and sure enough the Say 10 graffiti is there.
Sa 10.JPG

**I just took another screen shot and will upload.

Original Source
https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4386...KXXyVpsA!2e0!5s20121001T000000!7i13312!8i6656
 
  • #215
This is when sleuthing is fun. I went to Google maps under the overpass of 4th line, asked to see 2012 and sure enough the Sa 10 (looks like no Y) graffiti is there.
View attachment 125848

Thanks, Claroon. Good sleuthing! I can see the Y, but it looks much more faint from that angle than the other letters.
 
  • #216
Can someone refresh my memory please. Exactly how did Laura meet DM in the very beginning?
 
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  • #218
Thanks, Claroon. Good sleuthing! I can see the Y, but it looks much more faint from that angle than the other letters.

Thanks. Yes, I edited as I see the Y now.

The first shot I did from a different angle it looks white. Strange.
 
  • #219
Reminder:

All pics need a link to the original source to comply with copyright, and so that members can click on the link to take them directly to the source.

:wave:
 
  • #220
Can someone refresh my memory please. Exactly how did Laura meet DM in the very beginning?

I believe she went to high school with AM?
 
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