Lawyer of baby Lisa's family sets up a website

[AngelWings444]

OMG Clu, I about had a heart attack when I started reading your post, lol. Then I got to the end.

Me too!! :floorlaugh:

 

[Deleted member 39678]

It actually does NOT state that there was a hit on the carpet, it says floor. I think it is important to keep the wording just as it is stated. MOO

I think that it's important to note that carpet covered the floor. JMO.

 

[MyBelle]

Well she's saying things that bolster a position you don't agree with, I think.

So it comes across as kind of irritating.

I think she's doing a remarkable job.

But then, she's taking the position I agree with so maybe that's just human nature. I love her serious attitude, her careful choice of words, and her reasoning.

She's no Geragos.

She's doing a remarkable job of making her clients look like desperate baby killers and she's doing a good imitation of Geragos right down to insulting the dogs.

JMO

 

[marycarney]

One question:
dot-com or dot-CON?

 

[sarx]

I think that it's important to note that carpet covered the floor. JMO.

But we have no idea what else may have covered the carpet.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

But we have no idea what else may have covered the carpet.

True. And that could be what the dog hit on.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Me too!! :floorlaugh:

Me three! :floorlaugh:

 

[MyBelle]

I think that it's important to note that carpet covered the floor. JMO.

We don't know that is a fact nor is it relevant. LE did not mention carpet in the search warrant. And we know from other cases that LE doesn't seize the carpet even though they seize evidence they find on top of the carpet such as shoes, kwim?

 

[HatesSociopaths]

It actually does NOT state that there was a hit on the carpet, it says floor. I think it is important to keep the wording just as it is stated. MOO

Hey sarx, you think it's possible that Debbie got the carpet in the bedroom replaced and that the roll of carpet they had in the backyard was the actual bedroom carpet?

 

[JeannaT]

It actually does NOT state that there was a hit on the carpet, it says floor. I think it is important to keep the wording just as it is stated. MOO

Since the floor is covered by carpet, I can't imagine the dog got a hit below the intact carpet. Doesn't add up.

I use "carpet" and "floor" interchangably. I need to vacuum this floor. Pick your socks up off the floor. They can be used interchangably.

 

[mysteriew]

I don't think LE would purposely want to risk their case, but I do think dogs are fallable. It's not like DNA. They make mistakes, even the best.

Yes but this isn't even questioning the reliability of the dogs. This is saying that either LE lied on the search warrant or that they didn't correctly collect evidence. She didn't even mention the reliability of the dogs.

But she is definately damaging her credibility with me. She wasn't there during the SW. She has no way of knowing where the dog hit other than near the bed (doesn't a bed have 4 sides?). She has no way of knowing what evidence was taken, other than she didn't see any evidence that anything was taken. For all she knew one of the LE worked with carpet and took the time to repair any damages to the carpet as a result of collecting evidence. Or perhaps the area was on the other side of the bed from where the camera was and she just didn't show it (anyone willing to exaggerate events makes me believe they would outright lie also.)

 

[MyBelle]

Hey sarx, you think it's possible that Debbie got the carpet in the bedroom replaced and that the roll of carpet they had in the backyard was the actual bedroom carpet?

I've wondered the same thing.

 

[JeannaT]

Hey sarx, you think it's possible that Debbie got the carpet in the bedroom replaced and that the roll of carpet they had in the backyard was the actual bedroom carpet?

Not Sarx, but Between 10:30 in the evening and 4 in the morning while her children were in the house? No, I don't think that's likely. She'd have had to move out all the furniture and haul that carpet around. Look how it's taking two of them to manage it.

 

[josie1986]

Me too!! :floorlaugh:

me three

 

[Melanie]

Wouldn't the best way to find Lisa, release the newest photos that represent a 30 lb, 2" 6' 10 month old child ~info listed on flier~? Trying to understand how it helps find Lisa, if the cops are having to deal with "tips" based on months old photos & videos?

Does anyone know if the photos posted are from the Sunday birthday party that I've heard folks talk about. IMHO, those photos would be the latest greatest. Sorry that I haven't researched the photos, but know many of you have.

Thanks much!

Mel

 

[Donjeta]

I can't see LE making up a cadaver dog hit. I hope not. It would be not only unethical but also very stupid IMO. It could bite them in the bottom. If they later solve the case and want to prosecute someone but the working theory what happened to Lisa doesn't include her lying dead in the bedroom at all they would be giving an out to the defendant. Their attorney would be all over this hit. "Yeah, so you say that my client killed Lisa in [insert place] but that can't be true, the cadaver dogs hit in her parents' bedroom. If the dogs hit you must acquit."

 

[HatesSociopaths]

Not Sarx, but Between 10:30 in the evening and 4 in the morning while her children were in the house? No, I don't think that's likely. She'd have had to move out all the furniture and haul that carpet around. Look how it's taking two of them to manage it.

I was thinking more like after October 3rd. When did they move out?

 

[mysteriew]

Okay. So Cindy's commentary made me look back at the timeline of the "hit".

It sounds like the "hit" was made on the carpet of Deborah's room, on Oct. 17 before there was a search warrant. They were allowed to search based on Jeremy's free will consent that day.

Then, they returned with the search warrant and another dog the most recent search? The search warrant stated that previously a dog had "hit" on the carpet, the Oct. 17 search and they were there to remove evidence. And also search the yard.

Did they bring a better dog for the search warrant search? I think that's what Cindy is implying. The first one "hit", causing the search warrant, the second one did not, thus no removal of the carpet.

Is that the timeline of the "hit" and search warrant?

Good theory.

It could also be that she plans to try to get the Oct. 17 search excluded from court and thus it is important to try to change people's memories that a cadaver dog hit in the bedroom.

If she can change peoples memories and keep the Oct. 17 search out of court then it is like it didn't happen.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

We don't know that is a fact nor is it relevant. LE did not mention carpet in the search warrant. And we know from other cases that LE doesn't seize the carpet even though they seize evidence they find on top of the carpet such as shoes, kwim?

Not relevant? If the carpet was put in the room after the search, that would be relevant to me. The way they said "hit on the floor" doesn't sound like shoes or some other object, but you could be right.

 

[MyBelle]

I was thinking more like after October 3rd. When did they move out?

afaik, the family has never returned to the house to spend the night but they have been there to allow reporters in, etc.