LE Press Conferences

[grayjay]

He said that they have gotten as far with the case already in 4 weeks as they normally do in 6 weeks or two months. I'm not sure exactly what that means, but to me it does seem important, and is news.

 

[CaringCitizen]

Is that what NG said? Because I wouldn't agree with that characterization, unless she's referring to the parking lot access road itself. The school sits on a major road, not a dead-end street, and it's near a major intersection. Yes, it's ruralish, but both Skyline and Corn Pass are major thruways in that area.

The school property itself only has one way in and that 'way in' is the same as the 'way out'. I posted a photo of this a week or two ago.

There is but one driveway where buses and cars come in and out. When I watched Nancy and she said one way in and one way out - I actually wished she had clarified that it's even the case that the one-way is shared!!

Some probably thought it was a circular drive type scenario that so many schools have so that exit is not same as entrance. Not the case at Skyline.

 

[PortlandMama]

He said that they have gotten as far with the case already in 4 weeks as they normally do in 6 weeks or two months. I'm not sure exactly what that means, but to me it does seem important, and is news.

That struck me, too. By what measure? I wonder if he possibly is measuring in dollars spent? :waitasec:

 

[CharlestonGal]

LE can't very well say she has been uncooperative; that would mean she refused to talk to them. And her lawyer will say she has told you all she knows, she spoke to you for x # of hours, took LD's, etc...so it would be hard to say no, but also hard to say yes, for Gates. If he knows she has been lying all along.

I'm just more sad than mad now. I am sad because as one poster said, unless she confesses, I think this case is already cold. What tip could come in that would help prove her guilt? I suppose someone could have seen her that has not yet called but it seems unlikely.

If she was seen leaving with him (IF) and if she lied about her whereabouts (IF)...that could be enough for a very weak case, IF they also had Kyron's body. But without? I doubt it.

It's quite the quandry, isn't it? Without a body a defense attorney can plant massive doubt that a murder even occured. If you manage to get past that, then what? The prosecutor can't just theorize that since TH lied about her whereabouts (if she did) that morning, she must have committed murder. That will never work in a million years unless you have some evidence to show that (1) Kyron is dead and (2) physical evidence that links TH to the body or crime scene. With no body, no crime scene, no physical evidence, no witnesses, what is a jury supposed to do? Liar does not = killer in a court of law.

 

[scandi]

The kids were supposed to be getting into seats starting at 8:35am and then final bell rings at 8:45am. You are late if not in your seat by then.

Hence, I have always wondered why Terri, who, as a volunteer there and knew exact times, wouldn't send him to his room until the last minute. Why would she practically make him late when they had supposedly been there since 8am together? It's always seemed deliberate to me - to choose a time when fewer people would you see you leave.

I don't think so on June 4th CaringCitizen. The Science Fair ran from 8 to 10am as noted on the lawn sign one of our local posters looked at.

Also, Kohr Harlan the KOIN TV reporter said that it was about 10am when the sub noticed there were only 5 students for her group and Mrs Porter commented about that and then left the room. I'd have to go back and get his exact words on that video, but made a mental note of it as I thought it was around 9am as well. xox

 

[PortlandMama]

The school property itself only has one way in and that 'way in' is the same as the 'way out'. I posted a photo of this a week or two ago.

There is but one driveway where buses and cars come in and out. When I watched Nancy and she said one way in and one way out - I actually wished she had clarified that it's even the case that the one-way is shared!!

Some probably thought it was a circular drive type scenario that so many schools have so that exit is not same as entrance. Not the case at Skyline.

Yes, that's helpful to clarify she's referring to the parking lot, not to Skyline Blvd. My daughter's school (also in PDX) is actually on a dead-end street, so in addition to the multiple parking areas there is literally only one way in and out when on the public right of way. The reason I think it's good to clarify is because the entrance to the parking lot and the school's billboard advertising the IB Inquiry Expo are on Skyline Blvd itself.

 

[scandi]

Do we have any news on the Hearing today set for 2:30?

I did notice the Presser was set in a courtroom or maybe a conference room downtown Portland. There were brass letters MULTNOMAH on the wall to the right of the podium where the Sheriff stood. He must have been there as he maybe attended the Hearing. IMO

 

[Cheewawa007]

Yes, that's helpful to clarify she's referring to the parking lot, not to Skyline Blvd. My daughter's school (also in PDX) is actually on a dead-end street, so in addition to the multiple parking areas there is literally only one way in and out when on the public right of way. The reason I think it's good to clarify is because the entrance to the parking lot and the school's billboard advertising the IB Inquiry Expo are on Skyline Blvd itself.

Could one walk through the woods from the school to a busy road easily?

 

[CaringCitizen]

I don't think so on June 4th CaringCitizen. The Science Fair ran from 8 to 10am as noted on the lawn sign one of our local posters looked at.

Also, Kohr Harlan the KOIN TV reporter said that it was about 10am when the sub noticed there were only 5 students for her group and Mrs Porter commented about that and then left the room. I'd have to go back and get his exact words on that video, but made a mental note of it as I thought it was around 9am as well. xox

Let's do some research on it because I think that even though the SF was 8-10am, it was still normal 'butts in seats' at 8:45 and the remaining SF time was with the classroom (as opposed to parents and their kids at the earlier time). This is how I remember it but we should search it. Thanks for pointing it out, Scandi!

 

[roseofsharon]

What about that access road? Does that count as a second road in?

I'm not sure about that -- I just heard MK say this on NG.

 

[cluciano63]

What Mk was mostly trying to say, without say it (like Gates) is that we are talking a matter of seconds and the notion that someone else swooped down on him in that hallway is...well, rather far-fetched. That was the point I got out of it.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Yeah that's what I was thinking because I believe he said it when talking about interviews with children and parents but I'm not sure.

LE might be referring to the plethora of video that is now available since the biological parents spoke last Friday, June 25. These video interviews can be analyzed by professionals for content, body language, voice analysis, etc. There is likely a lot to be gleaned from watching/listening to Kyron's parents speak about their missing child. jmo

 

[cluciano63]

Oh boy, she is on JVM now and no punches being pulled about Terry...although Rita Cosby adds her own spin tonight...and some embellishment...

 

[scandi]

Let's do some research on it because I think that even though the SF was 8-10am, it was still normal 'butts in seats' at 8:45 and the remaining SF time was with the classroom (as opposed to parents and their kids at the earlier time). This is how I remember it but we should search it. Thanks for pointing it out, Scandi!

I know where the video is but it doesn't have an individual link and I'd get a row of xxxxx's. LOL

Kgeaux found a link to it and will ask if he can bring it here. Kohr Harlan is a very well respected.



OMG, RITA COSBY is a commenter on Jane's show. Long time no see! :woohoo:

 

[adh74]

If LE's search of SI is based on a tip....they sure have spent a LOT of time and money on that one tip! It must be an awfully darn credible/juicy tip for them to put so much time/effort/money in that one location (which has turned up NOTHING, apparently).

 

[scandi]

Could one walk through the woods from the school to a busy road easily?

Hi Cheewawa, I don't think so.

The school sits back off the road a bit, true. But the woods are back behind the school quite a ways. And beyond those woods are more woods and cravases with up to a 300' drop. If one walked back to the woods they'd have to walk allot further to get out on either of the 2 major roads IMO

 

[scandi]

If LE's search of SI is based on a tip....they sure have spent a LOT of time and money on that one tip! It must be an awfully darn credible/juicy tip for them to put so much time/effort/money in that one location (which has turned up NOTHING, apparently).

I agree it must have been a HELLO tip for LE. And it could be, just speculating here, that it was in relation to an association someone in the family had with someone living on SI. There are connections or friendships I do believe. IMO

 

[RandomThoughts]

There are no suspects, everyone is a person of interest.
SM and Kyron were at the school in the morning.
Places searched because of tips.
No reason to believe that Kyron is not alive. Continue to believe he is alive until something proves otherwise.
SM has been cooperating, nothing from investigators to assume otherwise.
SM has a lawyer, must respect that.
Continue looking for Kyron.
Thats what I got from it all.

BBM

They also didn't say if anyone has been ruled out, which has made me start thinking of really far fetched ideas of which I can't comment on.

 

[Day Dreamer]

Has anyone thought that maybe LE pointed out how much they have spent on the investigation so far as a way of putting a guilt trip on someone? ie. If this is a hoax or custody issue.

ETA: Or if a ransom (fake or not) was ever received?

 

[Jaxson]

I think if it was a custody battle, Terri would have given in when Kaine took her baby...assuming Kyron was still OK. And I still do not believe for a second that she has anyone in her life (unknown to LE) that would do this for her.

I was wondering about that day...did she make a point of asking Kaine
to go to the bus stop with her? Like, almost insist on it? I wonder how that came about, if he looks back on it now and thinks it was strange...(I know they had told a tale about wanting to meet Kyron together for icr cream or something, but...just wondering how that really came down.)

Hmmm now there's a thought....what if she did hide him from dad because of imminent divorce (maybe SHE was planning to leave him) and dad took baby and filed divorce and RO to force her to give him back...he would have to file DV to get a temp RO and keep baby from her. She nows hires attorney to clear herself because LE won't/can't so she can get baby back with no need to turn over Kyron because they have nothing other than proximity that points to her....Hmmmm brainstorming some more and my head hurts as bad as my heart....