LE Press Conferences

[TxLady2]

If you ask me that was a whole lot a nothin about nothin. About the only thing that I gathered from this was the fact that there are 2700(?) leads and about 60% of them have been followed up on and that the DA's office has an investigator working also.

As far as the budget issues go, I could care less about. There should be no price tag put on any child's head that goes missing. If you spend $1 million a day then so be it, you do whatever you have to do to find that child and bring him/her home.

But I doubt that they have a million to spend on it. And they can't spend their entire budget on ONE case, when there are other cases they have to handle as well.
They operate on a budget just like anyone else does. When the funds run out, what then?

 

[Jaxson]

LE might be referring to the plethora of video that is now available since the biological parents spoke last Friday, June 25. These video interviews can be analyzed by professionals for content, body language, voice analysis, etc. There is likely a lot to be gleaned from watching/listening to Kyron's parents speak about their missing child. jmo

I thought they were talking about videos from the areas that they specifically asked for the 2nd week in. Along the different roads leading somewhat south where they may have been trying to find a particular vehicle at certain times (such as a white ford truck running errands)

 

[Lavender]

Has anyone thought that maybe LE pointed out how much they have spent on the investigation so far as a way of putting a guilt trip on someone? ie. If this is a hoax or custody issue.

ETA: Or if a ransom (fake or not) was ever received?

Yes, that did cross my mind for a bit. Then it also crossed my mind that if someone has Kyron and they are thinking of returning him, it might push them into a desperate act if they fear they'll be financially liable to reimburse the county if caught. So I'm thinking such a tactic, if it was one, would be risky unless they knew precisely who they were dealing with.

I have a lot of these "but wait, what if..." conversations in my head, constantly arguing both sides. It's like my mind has been infiltrated and commandeered by a debate team.

 

[Jaxson]

Wondering how far in advance the children were allowed to set up their projects.

One pic with the science project shows KH wearing his glasses and in another pic he is not. Curious to know exactly how many pics TH took.

Also would like to know when the bell rang was KH the first to arrive at the classroom door -- could it be that no one was in the room when he got to the door -- other than a perp perhaps.

Just speculation -- moo.

LE photoshopped the glasses out.

 

[cluciano63]

Who, on God's green earth, is going to hide a child for a month for anyone, when the FBI and multiple police agencies are looking for him? This is beyond outlandish to me, it is impossible. The potential for charges to escalate with each passing day, etc...no way, I don't buy it. And if there WERE such a person, it would have to be a person very close to TH, and you can't tell me FBI could not have uncovered this person and their location by now. I just don't think there is an ounce of possibility in this theory.

I have been posting way too much today...this case does this to me...

 

[Jaxson]

I have a lot of these "but wait, what if..." conversations in my head, constantly arguing both sides. It's like my mind has been infiltrated and commandeered by a debate team.

YESSS!!! I have been trying to prove her guilty, but she just keeps being innocent until I can prove her guilty because ....well just because I can't prove her guilty and no one else has yet either.

 

[BeanE]

Raw Press Conference Video from KGW:

http://www.kgw.com/video?id=97702674&sec=547977

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I thought they were talking about videos from the areas that they specifically asked for the 2nd week in. Along the different roads leading somewhat south where they may have been trying to find a particular vehicle at certain times (such as a white ford truck running errands)

It's possible, if not likely that LE is looking at surveillance video from all over the Portland area. That said, any and all video of Kyron's family is subject to evaluation by LE authorities. Until last Friday when the biological parents were interviewed by mulitiple news sources, there was very little video available of these people who are intimately involved with the missing boy because the immediate family did not want to speak with media. Experts will review all of the interviews and will glean insight into these individuals as well as the family dynamics. jmo

 

[mysticrose]

All I can say is I am highly disappointed in how this case is being handled, especially the sense to "control" the media from the family and LE .... It reminds me of Haleigh's Cummings case and well...we all know how far we are there, well at least most of us do.

I am just not happy about it at all, I almost feel a sense of doom , like all this hand picking of info is not going to help bring Kyron home, but heck what do I know ?

 

[cluciano63]

It will surely go cold, if nothing happens in a few weeks, at best, to enable LE to make an arrest. Memories are not going to improve over time. I think LE really wants to make an arrest before school starts, in order to let the school "off the hook" so to speak, but I just don't think they are going to be able to do so, without a confession or Kyron's body being found. One of those two things has to happen and both seem to be less and less likely...
And they won't be able to justify pouring money into an investigation that probably has a "suspect" but no way to charge the person.

 

[Chili Fries]

Raw Press Conference Video from KGW:

http://www.kgw.com/video?id=97702674&sec=547977

Things I missed the first time or I think are interesting...

At the beginning the Sheriff calls it "the investigation against Kyron Holmes".

"The bulk of the information that we've obtained in the course of this investigation is going to come from the family solely based on what we have and how this has transpired since the date this took place". Goes on to mention canvasses, interviews and "videos we've seized". Says she is not getting more scrutiny than other family members.

Can't comment on whether anyone saw TH leave the school.

You can see him thinking before he says he can't comment on the cellphone pings.

When saying there is no danger from a serial predator he says, "We have a situation, and it's an incident and we need to take care of this under the investigative means we are working under".

 

[Jaxson]

Who, on God's green earth, is going to hide a child for a month for anyone, when the FBI and multiple police agencies are looking for him? This is beyond outlandish to me, it is impossible. The potential for charges to escalate with each passing day, etc...no way, I don't buy it. And if there WERE such a person, it would have to be a person very close to TH, and you can't tell me FBI could not have uncovered this person and their location by now. I just don't think there is an ounce of possibility in this theory.

I have been posting way too much today...this case does this to me...

I apologize for upsetting you. I was just taking one of your thoughts and running with it without thinking it through. I don't know anyone who would take a child and hide him. I don't know any step mom's who are going to kill their child either. Especially after raising them for at least 5 yrs. Seems like there would have been a younger age that would have been easier to murder him or an easier way to make him disappear at the age he is. I also don't think she had enough time to hide him this well. She didn't know the school would allow her so much time.

 

[Chili Fries]

I wonder if they have video of TH that contradicts her story but does not show her with Kyron. Maybe they think it's from after she did whatever they think she did with him.

 

[cluciano63]

I apologize for upsetting you. I was just taking one of your thoughts and running with it without thinking it through. I don't know anyone who would take a child and hide him. I don't know any step mom's who are going to kill their child either. Especially after raising them for at least 5 yrs. Seems like there would have been a younger age that would have been easier to murder him or an easier way to make him disappear at the age he is. I also don't think she had enough time to hide him this well. She didn't know the school would allow her so much time.

I didn't mean this to be a response to your suggestion. I have seen this theory everywhere and I know it one that allows hope so I don't blame anyone for thinking it. I was just kind of thinking aloud as well...WHO would do this for ANYONE? That would have to allow for two psychos instead of only one, which is hard enough to believe...I really did not mean to dimiss your theory. I apologize that it came across that way.

 

[Etilema]

Who, on God's green earth, is going to hide a child for a month for anyone, when the FBI and multiple police agencies are looking for him? This is beyond outlandish to me, it is impossible. The potential for charges to escalate with each passing day, etc...no way, I don't buy it. And if there WERE such a person, it would have to be a person very close to TH, and you can't tell me FBI could not have uncovered this person and their location by now. I just don't think there is an ounce of possibility in this theory.

Plus, the way DY is talking, they don't seem to be operating under that scenario, at least not exclusively. She mentioned looking for him pretty much anywhere and everywhere, inlcuding on one's own property!

That last makes me wonder if they are suspecting the scenario that has been mentioned here by some posters, of TH (or an accomplice) simply turning him loose somewhere, possibly without glasses, and letting him wander.

Yet DY's saying to look for him in normal places, as well, (during daily activities) suggests that he might be under someone's care, who is taking him out and about. (Which seems odd in itself. If anyone is holding him captive, I would certainly not expect them to take him out in public!)

 

[Chili Fries]

I think it's pretty obvious they started out under the theory that Kyron wandered away from the school. Four days after he disappeared, Capt. Gates said he hoped it would be "wrapped up by the end of the week". At that time he said there was no evidence of a crime. He also said that other children were not at risk, like they are saying now, but I think it may have been because at the time they thought Kyron was lost. Now they seem to be saying it for a very different, criminally related reason (that someone Kyron knows is responsible for his disappearance).

All of this says to me that LE got what they believe is very compelling evidence along the way which made them focus on TH. The search and rescue efforts were called off very abruptly, it was deemed a criminal investigation and they started searching the Sauvie Island area.

 

[nomoresorrow]

(BBM)

But I doubt that they have a million to spend on it. And they can't spend their entire budget on ONE case, when there are other cases they have to handle as well.
They operate on a budget just like anyone else does. When the funds run out, what then?

Not directed at you TxLady;
(Re:BBM Above)

Guess they could ask for/accept donations - perhaps the donations that people, including myself, wanted to generously give to Kyron's reward fund initially... :waitasec: Just a thought ~

 

[Jaxson]

I think it's pretty obvious they started out under the theory that Kyron wandered away from the school. Four days after he disappeared, Capt. Gates said he hoped it would be "wrapped up by the end of the week". At that time he said there was no evidence of a crime. He also said that other children were not at risk, like they are saying now, but I think it may have been because at the time they thought Kyron was lost. Now they seem to be saying it for a very different, criminally related reason (that someone Kyron knows is responsible for his disappearance).

All of this says to me that LE got what they believe is very compelling evidence along the way which made them focus on TH. The search and rescue efforts were called off very abruptly, it was deemed a criminal investigation and they started searching the Sauvie Island area.

I am not sure they stopped searching abruptly. I know it was reported by some of the Sar people that areas were searched and re-searched so it may have just appeared abrupt. They did state they had a tip that led them to SI which is makes me feel that;
1. They thought he simply wandered off, no evidence of a crime
2. They searched for him for many days in the area of the school even after they had started looking at the island.
3. They received a tip that they took VERY seriously judging from the amount of effort put in to the search of the island and surrounding waters.
4. They have found no evidence of Kyron anywhere. Criminal or otherwise but have pretty much ruled out 'otherwise' so are left with criminal.
5. They refocused on Terri's story and asked for videos from businesses along certain paths she may have taken.
6. They questioned her and did poly's
7. It was easier to confirm alibi's for the other 3 parents because they were in specific places at specific times.
8. Terri was all over the place, checking her route and story is taking a lot more time and they can't/won't call her a POI because they have not discounted her story yet.
9. The poly's she took were inconclusive which really means squat because if she is taking any meds it will affect it anyway and they are pretty unreliable in the first place. We have someone here who has admitted that she 'failed' when asked her name and birth date. Terri is under tremendous stress right now.
10. LE can't clear Terri until they are through reviewing video.
11. Terri has tired of the speculation and with losing her husband and daughter, has hired an attorney possibly to clear her name because she is tired of waiting for LE to do it and wants her daughter back.

 

[DollyPardonMe]

Who, on God's green earth, is going to hide a child for a month for anyone, when the FBI and multiple police agencies are looking for him? This is beyond outlandish to me, it is impossible. The potential for charges to escalate with each passing day, etc...no way, I don't buy it. And if there WERE such a person, it would have to be a person very close to TH, and you can't tell me FBI could not have uncovered this person and their location by now. I just don't think there is an ounce of possibility in this theory.

I have been posting way too much today...this case does this to me...

Nancy Garrido helped her husband, Phillip (ugh) hide Jaycee for 18 years..It happens!

 

[CaringCitizen]

I know where the video is but it doesn't have an individual link and I'd get a row of xxxxx's. LOL

Kgeaux found a link to it and will ask if he can bring it here. Kohr Harlan is a very well respected.

OMG, RITA COSBY is a commenter on Jane's show. Long time no see! :woohoo:

Just finished watching my recording of Jane's show...agree, Rita Cosby is awesome. She is incredibly articulate. It was wonderful hearing the story of her dad, the quiet hero. Happy 4th of July weekend, everyone!

Thanks Scandi and Kgeux - curious to read up on this timing detail again. I looked for some old articles and posts but many of the articles weren't preserved and I have to comb through a lot more old threads to find where there was a lot discussion on the Science Fair timing and tardy bell.