LE Serves Warrant on Family Home #6

[SmoothOperator]

Why are we just now hearing about fresh, unearthed ground on the Irwin property? It's very odd to me.. I mean right outta the shoot 911 called, LE swarms the home, the property, the neighborhood, the area.. Right then at how many ever minutes after 4:04am when the 911 call was dispatched multiple officers and patrol cars are immediately on the scene.. Right then and there officers searching the perimeter of this home, including the entire backyard and camper.. Right then, before even 4:30am, in those PRE-dawn last hours THIS DETAIL WOULD HAVE BEEN KNOWN WITHOUT A DOUBT And WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY!!!! FRESH, UNEARTHED DIRT, SOIL RECENTLY HAVING BEEN DUG UP, REPLACED, AND PATTED DOWN, etc, etc.. These are without a doubt details that could not be hidden, concealed or easily covered up!!! Extremely easily recognizable even in the PRE dawn dark of night these officers without a doubt would have known and found any area an inch or more in size that had been recently disturbed, dug up, replaced, etc.. With the lights on the back of the home or even with a handheld flashlight this is an extremely easy find!!! Again right off the bat!!!

If by chance they weren't as thorough as I'd expect them to be in those last couple of PRE dawn hours then surely upon sunrise of that Oct. 4th morning this "fresh, unearthed, newly disturbed ground" would have been IMMEDIATELY SEIZED UPON RIGHT AWAY BEFORE 8am?!?!?

This the most easiest and immediate find!! Why then for weeks did we watch that property from every angle, including aerial view as LE searched other neighbors and other homes all the while right there in the very back yard there was unearthed ground?? Where was it all along?? Wouldn't we have images of it from the non stop views we've all seen since October 4th?? Wouldn't it have been there all along, therefor has to have been caught by the 24/7 media saturated coverage of this area??

 

[Turnadot]

Why are we just now hearing about fresh, unearthed ground on the Irwin property? It's very odd to me.. I mean right outta the shoot 911 called, LE swarms the home, the property, the neighborhood, the area.. Right then at how many ever minutes after 4:04am when the 911 call was dispatched multiple officers and patrol cars are immediately on the scene.. Right then and there officers searching the perimeter of this home, including the entire backyard and camper.. Right then, before even 4:30am, in those PRE-dawn last hours THIS DETAIL WOULD HAVE BEEN KNOWN WITHOUT A DOUBT And WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY!!!! FRESH, UNEARTHED DIRT, SOIL RECENTLY HAVING BEEN DUG UP, REPLACED, AND PATTED DOWN, etc, etc.. These are without a doubt details that could not be hidden, concealed or easily covered up!!! Extremely easily recognizable even in the PRE dawn dark of night these officers without a doubt would have known and found any area an inch or more in size that had been recently disturbed, dug up, replaced, etc.. With the lights on the back of the home or even with a handheld flashlight this is an extremely easy find!!! Again right off the bat!!!

If by chance they weren't as thorough as I'd expect them to be in those last couple of PRE dawn hours then surely upon sunrise of that Oct. 4th morning this "fresh, unearthed, newly disturbed ground" would have been IMMEDIATELY SEIZED UPON RIGHT AWAY BEFORE 8am?!?!?

This the most easiest and immediate find!! Why then for weeks did we watch that property from every angle, including aerial view as LE searched other neighbors and other homes all the while right there in the very back yard there was unearthed ground?? Where was it all along?? Wouldn't we have images of it from the non stop views we've all seen since October 4th?? Wouldn't it have been there all along, therefor has to have been caught by the 24/7 media saturated coverage of this area??

It may be because LE in this case are very wisely holding their cards close to the vest because of all the media. The media has no sense of stfu before LE has properly investigated something - media folks will usually just blab whatever it is for ratings and their "top story".

IMO

 

[MyBelle]

Why are we just now hearing about fresh, unearthed ground on the Irwin property? It's very odd to me.. I mean right outta the shoot 911 called, LE swarms the home, the property, the neighborhood, the area.. Right then at how many ever minutes after 4:04am when the 911 call was dispatched multiple officers and patrol cars are immediately on the scene.. Right then and there officers searching the perimeter of this home, including the entire backyard and camper.. Right then, before even 4:30am, in those PRE-dawn last hours THIS DETAIL WOULD HAVE BEEN KNOWN WITHOUT A DOUBT And WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY!!!! FRESH, UNEARTHED DIRT, SOIL RECENTLY HAVING BEEN DUG UP, REPLACED, AND PATTED DOWN, etc, etc.. These are without a doubt details that could not be hidden, concealed or easily covered up!!! Extremely easily recognizable even in the PRE dawn dark of night these officers without a doubt would have known and found any area an inch or more in size that had been recently disturbed, dug up, replaced, etc.. With the lights on the back of the home or even with a handheld flashlight this is an extremely easy find!!! Again right off the bat!!!

If by chance they weren't as thorough as I'd expect them to be in those last couple of PRE dawn hours then surely upon sunrise of that Oct. 4th morning this "fresh, unearthed, newly disturbed ground" would have been IMMEDIATELY SEIZED UPON RIGHT AWAY BEFORE 8am?!?!?

This the most easiest and immediate find!! Why then for weeks did we watch that property from every angle, including aerial view as LE searched other neighbors and other homes all the while right there in the very back yard there was unearthed ground?? Where was it all along?? Wouldn't we have images of it from the non stop views we've all seen since October 4th?? Wouldn't it have been there all along, therefor has to have been caught by the 24/7 media saturated coverage of this area??

The fact that the public was not informed of the details of what LE found and when until the search warrant gave us glimpses has nothing to do with the competency of the investigation. The public knows only what LE wants us to know and, to me, that represents integrity not incompetency.

JMO

 

[Turnadot]

The fact that the public was not informed of the details of what LE found and when until the search warrant gave us glimpses has nothing to do with the competency of the investigation. The public knows only what LE wants us to know and, to me, that represents integrity not incompetency.

JMO

This, too.

As much as I want to know, it's none of my business. The LE are doing a fantastic job with this case.

IMO

 

[MyBelle]

This, too.

As much as I want to know, it's none of my business. The LE are doing a fantastic job with this case.

IMO

I think LE is doing an excellent job of protecting their investigation and acting very professionally. Anyone who thinks cops routinely leak information to the media is pretty clueless how much disdain most cops actually have for the media. That's why LE designate certain spokespeople.

JMO

 

[mck16]

JI was the 3rd owner. Original owner lived there until the late 90's (?) This is who possibly died in the house - can't confirm that part right now, but this is getting to be a loooong time ago. The family sold the house after this and the new family after this lost it then JI bought it. I am not sure if the second family lost it in foreclosure or had a drug forfeiture placed on it (very possible LE might have found something in those walls!).

So there is the possibility that someone had died in the home prior to the Irwin's living there? tia

 

[carole]

So there is the possibility that someone had died in the home prior to the Irwin's living there? tia

But how likely is it that another death occurred on the floor just beside the parents bed???

 

[norest4thewicked]

I agree.

But how likely is it that someone died on the floor just beside the parents bed???

And, not only that, but JI has owned the house for at least 10 years. No way decomp would still be present after all this time.

 

[cluciano63]

So there is the possibility that someone had died in the home prior to the Irwin's living there? tia

According to our experts here on WS, very, very unlikely; she said that the dogs are specifically trained to seek out new scents and special alerts for those news scents, as opposed to alerts they might give for ancient remains, something like that, parapharasing.

 

[sarx]

The dog was hitting on fresh, I am confident of that....

 

[EllaMae]

Has anyone considered, that DB MAY have gotten drunk, AFTER something happened to Lisa?

To blot out the memory, to be able to handle it, to drown it until she passed out.

Just a thought ...

I believe she was drinking outside on her front stoop with a neighbor earlier in the evening.

 

[Turnadot]

I think LE is doing an excellent job of protecting their investigation and acting very professionally. Anyone who thinks cops routinely leak information to the media is pretty clueless how much disdain most cops actually have for the media. That's why LE designate certain spokespeople.

JMO

I agree with everything you said here, especially the BBM.

At first I had this knee-jerk reaction to any member of LE interviewing my kids more than once (if I were the parent in this case), but after thinking on this more, the hard cold reality is that kids see and hear a heck of a lot more than a lot of adults give them credit for, and it would be pretty crappy of me to allow my one bad experience with LE taint all of LE. Plus there's a helpless infant's life at risk.

I would want my kids to have an advocate of course, but thinking more reasonably, there's no valid reason to keep LE from having someone trained to do so, question the kids more than once.

IMO

 

[MyBelle]

So there is the possibility that someone had died in the home prior to the Irwin's living there? tia

there is the possibility the vacuum hadn't been run, carpets cleaned in years but not all that probable.

JMO

 

[mck16]

The dog was hitting on fresh, I am confident of that....

1. I know that I am grasping at straws.
2. I don't want LI to be dead.
3. I don't want the parents or parent to be involved if she is.

Just hoping there was a possibility.

 

[norest4thewicked]

1. I know that I am grasping at straws.
2. I don't want LI to be dead.
3. I don't want the parents or parent to be involved if she is.

Just hoping there was a possibility.

I know what you mean! Unfortunately though, with everything piling up, it doesn't look likely.

 

[MyBelle]

I agree with everything you said here, especially the BBM.

At first I had this knee-jerk reaction to any member of LE interviewing my kids more than once (if I were the parent in this case), but after thinking on this more, the hard cold reality is that kids see and hear a heck of a lot more than a lot of adults give them credit for, and it would be pretty crappy of me to allow my one bad experience with LE taint all of LE. Plus there's a helpless infant's life at risk.

I would want my kids to have an advocate of course, but thinking more reasonably, there's no valid reason to keep LE from having someone trained to do so, question the kids more than once.

IMO

There are ways to interview kids without traumatizing them or inducing anxiety that what they say may hurt mommy or daddy. Instead, these parents chose to call in a lawyer/cable pundit to insult the law enforcement handing the case. It's hard for me to find any sympathy for them although I do feel sorry for those little boys.

JMO

 

[marge_rita]

But how likely is it that another death occurred on the floor just beside the parents bed???

I'm guessing slim to none.
I asked our SAR folks a question about this on their thread.

imo

 

[mck16]

I know what you mean! Unfortunately though, with everything piling up, it doesn't look likely.

I agree. The most haunting thing to me is the picture of Lisa at the door. She almost has a look of fear in her eyes. A look of abandoment. Her little arms up almost like she is saying don't leave me here. That picture is so sad to me. I am really sick about the latest turn of events. jmo

 

[marge_rita]

The dog was hitting on fresh, I am confident of that....

sarx,
A big THANK YOU!

 

[norest4thewicked]

Yes...sarx...you deserve more of a thank you than just clicking the button. Your help is so very valuable!