Lee Anthony Almosts Hits Protesters

  • #501
<<Lee basically admitted to it and basically said he waited for them to get in the way. One kid was actually being held by the parent. It is the responsibility of the driver. If the kid gets hit and killed its the driver's fault>>

Well, here's my point. Everyone is talking about this family and how they're insane, etc. etc. But yet, there they are, just milling around in front of their house, virtually antagonizing them to do something. I've said it before and I'll say it again....when someone gets seriously hurt, who's fault is it going to be? The Anthony's for being provoked or the public for doing the antagonizing? These people need to take their children home where they belong. You do not put your child in harm's way and then go ballistic when something happens.

True but Lee should be watching out for people cause its gonna be all on him whenever he runs somebody over
 
  • #502
well, now that Cindy mentions CPS...I started thinking about an old case there in Fl with CPS...hmmmmmm

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wilson_rilya.html
*snip*
Authorities stated that both women have consistently failed lie detector tests in connection with Rilya's case. Graham allegedly told at least six people that an unnamed Spanish woman had taken Rilya on a trip to New York or New Jersey, after the individuals noticed the child's absence but before the DCF did. She said the Spanish woman intended to adopt Rilya.


*snip
MIAMI, Florida (AP) -- It's now been more than six years since foster child Rilya Wilson went missing, a disappearance that led to a shakeup at Florida's child welfare agency and murder charges against the little girl's former caretaker.
Yet Rilya's body has never been found and there's little physical evidence against the woman accused of abusing and killing her, 61-year-old Geralyn Graham.
Faced with no firm evidence that a slaying occurred and no witness who can definitively identify Graham as the girl's killer, prosecutors have been assembling a largely circumstantial case, according to case records.
Police dug up Graham's backyard looking for clues. They treated rooms in her house with a substance that reveals hidden traces of blood. They searched the house from top to bottom more than once.
"I found absolutely nothing," Miami-Dade County homicide detective Sara Times said in a court deposition.
Despite the murder charges,Rilya is still listed officially as missing by the state Department of Children & Families. If she lived, she would have turned 11 on September 29.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/08/rilya.wilson.ap/index.html

few more links:
http://www.wesh.com/news/4292896/detail.html (a local news staion carried the story? hmmm)
http://www.nbc6.net/news/4294059/detail.html timeline

Let me guess, Zanny took Rilya, too? btw, Rilya's name is pretty neat :) sad, sad story like Caylee's. Interesting the similar claims and that it had been covered on local news.Cindy's spouting about CPS made me recall this case, imagine that.


I can't tell you how o
ften I have thought about little Rilya.. I think what made such a big impact on me is when they gave an explaination of how her unique name came about.

R - Remember
I - I
L - Love
Y - You
A - Always
 
  • #503
*snip
I've said it before and I'll say it again....when someone gets seriously hurt, who's fault is it going to be? The Anthony's for being provoked or the public for doing the antagonizing?
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I don't see an option in that question, it's the Antony's being provoked and the Anthony's being antagonized. Did you mean the Anthony's provoking and the public antagonizing?

I think the Anthony's provoke. Cindy needs to hush..just be quiet. She has a divine way of really ticking people off, and dragging more chit to their door step.

Nobody had been protesting at their house before Casey was bonded out and I think Cindy's comments provoked the public into wanting to push back/antagonize.

Cindy sounded much better this way, and I had heartfelt sympathy for her when it was...

So come on folks, someone needs to start listening to my daughter and if it is not the local authorities, will the FBI please get involved in this case and come and interview my daughter like she has been requesting."
The family said the getting Casey out of jail is not a priority since jail may be the safest place for her.
http://www.local6.com/news/17000968/detail.html

“I will walk every inch of this earth and open every door and knock on every door, I will look in every nook and cranny until I find her.
http://www.local6.com/news/16922247/detail.html (video Dig Done: Grandma Hopes)
 
  • #504
I agree, that is one of the neatest, most unique meaningful names I've ever seen. I guess her mother didn't have much to offer her but that name. So sad :(

It's even more sad to think how much Casey had going for her and little Caylee, it didn't need to be this way. Tragic!
 
  • #505
Here is how I see this: Lee should be more careful how he drives into the driveway. The driver of the car IS responsible for watching out for pedestrians. If I am walking in a parking lot, say at Wal Mart and I know that cars will be going through these lanes, it is MY responsibility to stay out of their way, not block their access to a parking space or the driving lanes. So if I move into their way at the last moment, or fail to move out of the way, it would be my fault if they hit me.
I see both sides as being in error here. Lee should have been more cautious when he knew that people were standing near or on the driveway. But the girls were old enough to know that they were too close to it, and should have moved back when they saw that he was going to turn in.
I personally would not bring my kids or grandkids to these protests. I think some of them are just antagonizing the family, in order to be on t.v.
 
  • #506
  • #507
<<I don't see an option in that question>>

Is there supposed to be an option? It's a question .... WHO's fault will it be when someone is hurt? The Anthony's for losing control, or the protesters for being there?
 
  • #508
<<I see both sides as being in error here>>

Exactly. I guess this is the point I'm trying to make. No good can come from this protesting stuff.
 
  • #509
Here is how I see this: Lee should be more careful how he drives into the driveway. The driver of the car IS responsible for watching out for pedestrians. If I am walking in a parking lot, say at Wal Mart and I know that cars will be going through these lanes, it is MY responsibility to stay out of their way, not block their access to a parking space or the driving lanes. So if I move into their way at the last moment, or fail to move out of the way, it would be my fault if they hit me.
I see both sides as being in error here. Lee should have been more cautious when he knew that people were standing near or on the driveway. But the girls were old enough to know that they were too close to it, and should have moved back when they saw that he was going to turn in.
I personally would not bring my kids or grandkids to these protests. I think some of them are just antagonizing the family, in order to be on t.v.

I agree but the family has done nothing but protect a killer to get on television and make tons of money
 
  • #510
  • #511
I just watched different clip and at the end you hear the officer tell the protesters that the A's have the right of way on there driveway. That lady was up on the driveway and that is there property.

More than one lady almost got hit. Not all of them were in the way. Lee is just being a douche
 
  • #512
<<I agree but the family has done nothing but protect a killer to get on television and make tons of money>>

I can agree with this to some degree. But the Anthony's don't see Casey as a "killer". She is their daughter and being a mother myself, I can understand why they would protect her. Not saying it's right, but I do understand love for a child. This is why even with everything that's going on, I still have a bit of compassion for the family. What a horrible situation for the parents. Remember Mark Hacking, though? His brothers convinced him to confess.
 
  • #513
More than one lady almost got hit. Not all of them were in the way. Lee is just being a douche

Lee is starting to scare me. At first, I though he was the rational, sensible one, but I think the stress is getting to him and he's starting to lose it.
 
  • #514
"The protestors shouldn't be there, so they got what they deserved" = "She wore a short skirt, so she was asking for it."

Lee is an adult and responsible for his own behavior. Being "provoked" does not excuse him from his responsibility to be a law abiding citizen. Blaming the victim doesn't hold water to rational people.
 
  • #515
Can the judge legally revoke her bond due to the threat to public safety? It seems to me it would solve a lot of problems including the Anthony's mental state and the protesters showing up. No one was hardly there while she was in.

So the protesters don't agree with CA's legal right to be out on bond, they "protest" and cause a ruckus and she should have the bond revoked? Are you joking? Taking away a fundamental right because a bunch of glory hounds want to be on TV, yeah, THAT is a brilliant idea.
 
  • #516
I don't agree with the protesting, I wouldn't do it myself and I certainly think it's beyond the pale to bring your children with you.

I detest Lee's driving just as I detest any who drive wreckless in my subdivison. I don't want that in my neighborhood and I don't want it in another's neighborhood.

Do I want Casey out on bond? No, but it's her right. Do I want protesters at the Anthony home? No, but it's their right.

I want Casey to tell us where Caylee is--that's what I want. If Caylee is no longer with us, tell us where to find her and bring her home. If Caylee is alive, give us GOOD information on how we can locate her and bring her home.

Nobody is doing what I want, so I just comment from the sidelines and try and respect everyones rights. What else can I do?
 
  • #517
Sorry for this being a long post but I've been reading for several days and finally had to speak up.

There is a higher emotional quotient to this case that is stoked by anger and negative feelings. Those negative feelings seem to be clouding the main issue and spilling over onto not only the family but even some of the young people who had the misfortune to be caught up in a horrid mess not of their own making.

Caylee is missing, presumed dead by a lot of people here on WS and elsewhere. How she went missing or became deceased is the REAL issue. Who did it is the issue. Casey's parents and her brother are peripheral to those central questions. Their support of her and comments on her behalf are fluff compared to the real issue. CAYLEE.

People complain that the Anthony's aren't out there searching in the swamps, but if they were out there they'd find fault with something else they were or weren't doing. So what if Lee Anthony was playing a game online for however long. He's exercising his right to pursue his interests, whether you or I like it or not. If we're going to exercise our right to complain or hold a protest outside his parents house saying "he's not out searching for his niece" then we have to recognize that he has rights as well as do his parents.

Steve Huff has an entry on the case and I agree with what he had to say.
http://www.truecrimereport.com/2008/09/pure_opinion_the_vaguely_obsce.php#more
What I also find obscene, I think, is the obsessive chewing over every tiny, meaningless detail of the circus surrounding the case (parsing the actual details that may point to what really happened is a necessary evil). I find it obscene that people insert themselves into the story -- by going to the Anthonys' home -- surely making it a point to do so when the cameras are around -- by starting fights in the street.

All of us are desperate for REAL news and parsing everything these people do or say is becoming less a matter of sleuthing or being interested in justice than spilling personal vitriol against people we really don't know or have any idea of how they are coping with the situation they find themselves in.

What? Protestors are allowed their rights to protest but the Anthony's should stay inside their house and forgo their rights to enjoy their property, including their front lawn? Or the use of their driveway? They should stay inside their house and ignore protestors.

Tell me something, if this was YOUR house and people were protesting a family member of YOURS, would YOU really stay inside? The response of "I wouldn't be supporting a baby killer in the family" or "I wouldn't be spinning lies etc.." is suppose to suffice? None of us know really how we would respond to a situation like this until we're in it.

I don't like some of the actions or comments the Anthony's have responded with but I recognize their RIGHT to say it. I recognize their right to make arses of themselves if they choose, just as the protestors have the right to do the same. Because IMO that's what some of them are doing. They're NOT going to achieve anything really.

Making life a hell and misery for the rest of the Anthony family isn't going to achieve "making" Casey talk. What they're doing is PUNISHING the Anthony family because they can't punish Casey or have any real affect on her. If they protested the office of whoever allows Casey such lenient time away from home confinement at her lawyers office, maybe they'd achieve something.

There are a lot of people who say the Anthonys should "make" Casey spill the beans.How pray tell? Beat it out of her? Starve her? Kick her out of the house?

Like many criminals Casey is stubborn and refuses to talk because the moment she does she commits herself to more than likely a lifetime in prison. If she's not going to open up and tell LE or the FBI who have skilled investigators how do we expect the family to get it out of her?

The investigators know that when they have enough evidence they can charge her with or without her cooperation. If they find the right evidence, they'll have the leverage to get her to talk. But until they do, what's the family supposed to do? What they have been doing. Support her because she is a member of their family. They can hate the acts she's committed but that doesn't mean they have to hate her. They may not understand her or her reasoning for what she may have done to Caylee and right now they prefer to believe that she hasn't.

I believe that's because like many other parents and family members or friends who find that someone close to them is accused of a crime, they find it very hard to fathom, much less accept that their loved one committed a heinous act.

Bottom line, if we and protesters have "rights" well, so do the Anthony's. Are we all such vicious voyeurs that we want to strip them of their rights?


The BEST post I have seen regarding this case!!!! Most logical and thoughtful. Period.
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Sorry, didn't want to snip any part of it. It deserves a full re-posting.
 
  • #518
Maybe that's the real reason that neighbors aren't letting their children outside - because George might shoot them if they put food one on his property. just a thought

Good lord. Someone needs to step away from the interwebs.
 
  • #519
Was Lee being sarcastic when he replied?

There's a fine point here that we as voyeurs, (yes, that's what we are no matter what term we use to wrap it up in) of this whole situation get close to crossing.

When do we stop being sleuthers and become participants in a soap opera of our own making?
We're sitting around discussing "hatred" of Lee Anthony or Cindy or George because of "things they've said" instead of discussing Casey who is the real culprit here. Even the P's didn't garner the level of protesting and dislike as the Anthony's are receiving.
Many of us witnessed the extent of the P's delusions and their actions and comments in trying to sway the public about Scott. The Anthony's are doing the same thing yet I sense a level of hatred that seems way out of proportion to what they've actually done or said. Perhaps I'm wrong in thinking this.

About 345,654,786,456,871,456 web cam threads ago?
 
  • #520
<<I don't see an option in that question>>

Is there supposed to be an option? It's a question .... WHO's fault will it be when someone is hurt? The Anthony's for losing control, or the protesters for being there?

Whomever fails to control the weapon, whether that be a car, a hammer, or a fist.
 

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