Leonard Padilla and Tim Miller on Scared Monkey Radio - 10/10/08

[LCoastMom]

I fail to see what LP has done to help find Caylee. If anything, all his ridiculous theories send people off in the wrong direction. It's so clear to me that LP's only motivation in putting himself in the middle of this case is to get his face in the media. How are totally unsubstantiated rumors about Lee being Caylee's father helping to find her?

I totally agree that the truth needs to be told, but LP doesn't know the truth any more than we do. He just makes stuff up. That's not helping. Leaving Casey's butt sitting in jail right from the start may have helped, unfortunately that opportunity is lost, thanks to LP's interference.

OK, can we agree that LP came into this with good intentions? KC had been in jail for 36 days when LP bailed her out. 36 days of her saying nothing...

He came here to find Caylee alive and felt he could do this given the chance to get to the bottom of who abducted her. Remember "KC was afraid", LP wasn't afraid.

Given that we now 'know' Caylee died around 6-16 what difference does it make that LP bailed KC out for 9 days? Nothing he did or didn't do can change what had already happened to this baby. KC didn't talk from jail and she didn't talk from home. He didn't cause this either.

 

[LCoastMom]

IF it is shown LA is the father
What color eyes does Lee have?
If both KC and Lee have blue eyes..no way can Caylee be their daughter.

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Welcome to WS Willow!

We've heard this argument before, but seriously; I have green eyes, my kids father has blue eyes. 2 of our 3 kids have great big brown eyes just like my dad.

 

[NancyT]

I have to strongly disagree. When LP came into this case, his only intention was to find Caylee and honestly thought Casey would talk when she was out of jail. As we know, she was silenced by JB instead. He was duped. He lost $50,000.00 plus in his effort to find Caylee, but he has not quit trying. So I don't see where it comes in for LP only being here for selfish reasons. He has proven time and again it is not the case.

I don't have to defend LP since there is nothing to defend. He hasn't done anything wrong except try and find this child since the A fam has put up every roadblock in front of every effort to do this. I applaud his efforts and not being afraid to speak out against this family. :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

He was duped? Please!!!! He claims he's the best bounty hunter in the world, yet little old Casey and Jose' Baez were able to pull the wool over his eyes? If that's his idea of the best out there, it's not saying much about him, is it?

We all knew there was no way Casey would EVER talk to him, didn't we? Yet, LP is that naive? I'm not buying it.

LP is out for LP. The credit he's been given for what he HAS done; or has been credited for at least, should go to Rob Dick and not LP anyway, IMO. It's my understanding that RD is the one who's gone over the cell records to try and line up Casey's movements. RD should be given the kudos. He should also dump LP because frankly, he doesn't need him.

Have you seen proof that he's lost 50 grand, or are you only taking him at his word? We all know what his word is worth.

 

[NancyT]

LP is a very smart man who was letting his big heart lead him. The money was never an issue and neither was the attention. LP isn't a stranger to being a "character". He admittedly has used this to garner attention for Caylee and to keep her name out there.

An FBI agent went on national television stating his credibility is not one to question. This speaks volumes to me. It is quite an endorsement and one I do not take lightly. As I have said before, we don't know why LP makes the comments he does, but he has his reasons. He is also first to admit when he is wrong.

Yeah, he sure did speak to LP's credibility. BUT and here is the kicker, LP has already gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar, so it doesn't fly for me. Things he has said have already proven to be untrue.

Oh, and he can't even define the term, "OLD FASHIONED." Smart? Not a word I would choose to describe him. Old school maybe. From the days when my mother went to school and learned the 3 R's. Reading, writing, and arithmetic (not sure where the 3 R's ever came from, but I digress). I also find him to be very simplistic, especially where his vocabulary is concerned (think along the lines of current president, LOL).

 

[Willlow65]

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Welcome to WS Willow!

We've heard this argument before, but seriously; I have green eyes, my kids father has blue eyes. 2 of our 3 kids have great big brown eyes just like my dad.

I know, But, when it comes to blue and blue alone the outcome is always blue per biology 101.

 

[magiemay]

I don't necessarily believe that it's true, but so what if it is? What business is it of LP's? Why in the God's creation would he think it's appropriate to go on national TV and talk radio and share this view with the rest of the world? What's his motivation? Why is he trying to humiliate them? Humiliating someone is not justice.

Now, if the Anthony family had harmed a loved one of LP's, I could understand the anger, rage, and hatred, and I would understand the need and want for revenge. But, LP injected himself into this case. It's my belief he initially bailed Casey out because he thought he was going to be the big hero. He wants that status. He offered 50 grand for anyone leading HIM to Caylee's remains. HE had to be the go between so HE could get his due.

IMO, his motivation isn't justice. He's in this for LP and all the glory he can glean from it. In a nutshell, he's classless.

That's not saying I side with the Anthony family, because I most definitely do not. I want Casey to pay for what she's done. If LE decides to charge the rest of the family and feel they can prove the charge in a court of law, I'll back that as well. I want justice, not vengeance.

Hey lets get real here we have all become obsessed with KC and missing Caylee wanting to see justice and this little girl found so tell me how you see it any differently for LP he just has more money to get more involved than the rest of us do IMO Do not fool your selves to think if I had the money I would not be down there trying tp right this wrong as would a lot of others I am sure. jmo

 

[Willlow65]

I had 3 C-sections and didn't get to hold any of mine first. I don't see the big deal here with CA and Casey. My children and I bonded perfectly as soon as I was able to.

I was first to hold one of my grandchildren for the same reason. It was never an issue with my DD. She welcomed the idea I was there. However, I didn't raise a selfish and "spiteful b*tch" person such as Casey either.

Me either. My loser ex husband held and fed her first while I was in an induced coma.

 

[LCoastMom]

Look at the situation here:

You have a family where the lying, stealing daughter probably killed her child out of spite for her mother. A mother who is lying to defend the daughter who probably killed her grandchild. A father who prefers to go out and kick other people's @sses for walking on his grass while knowing there was a dead body in his lying, stealing daughter's car. A brother who goes through his sister's things before LE can get to them knowing there could be evidence lost and who refuses to take a LDT or give his DNA in an effort to clear himself in an order to move things along to find his niece.

What is the stretch here to think that incest might not exist in this family?! How sick or crazy does a family have to be before that could be a possibility?!

I think there are so many horrible things gone wrong in that house that adding
this to the pot is just too much. We realize it happens, it's just one more thing when there's already too many things...

How many skeletons can one closet hold?

 

[cocoamom]

LP is a very smart man who was letting his big heart lead him. The money was never an issue and neither was the attention. LP isn't a stranger to being a "character". He admittedly has used this to garner attention for Caylee and to keep her name out there.

An FBI agent went on national television stating his credibility is not one to question. This speaks volumes to me. It is quite an endorsement and one I do not take lightly. As I have said before, we don't know why LP makes the comments he does, but he has his reasons. He is also first to admit when he is wrong.

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Thank you seriously searching! I can see this board is split on LP! If he only wanted to "inject" himself into the case for business or fame or whatever they are saying on this board, it would be pretty stupid to make insinuations without a very good reason or without backup! Maybe he really did think he could get her to talk as it's worked in the past for him. She lawyered up making this impossible for him but he still got information...I agree with YOU!

 

[karenmamo]

While I don't agree with the whole incest theory, I do not see how LP's statement are that different from the statements made by the A's. He accuses Lee of bieng the father, Casey accuses JG of bieng the father. Cindy now accuses JG of bieng involved in Caylee's disapperance. They have accused ZG of bieng the nanny, JO of bieng the father. I think they are doing just find humiliating themselves. Some might say two wrongs don't make a right, I say what goes around comes around.

Great thoughts in rebuttal.

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[NancyT]

Again, TP is NOT his brother. TP is his nephew. TP legally earned the money. LP did not get it back. There is nothing to question here.

Yes, he is his nephew, but the only thing we have is their word on it. If TP gave the money back, what in the world would you think he would say? He did say there was a lot of money invested here, thus the reason he wouldn't be donating any of it. So, it appears he's got something like $45 grand, maybe $40 grand as a profit. Not enough to donate?

He probably donated back to his uncle, IMO. Their word means nothing to me.

LP puts up 50 grand. 50 grand is returned to the nephew, TP. We're suppose to buy that his own nephew just took his 50K for less than 2 weeks time? Sorry, I'm not that naive.

You can't prove it and neither can I. I just choose to put more faith in family and feel the nephew wouldn't profit from his own uncle.

 

[NancyT]

Look at the situation here:

You have a family where the lying, stealing daughter probably killed her child out of spite for her mother. A mother who is lying to defend the daughter who probably killed her grandchild. A father who prefers to go out and kick other people's @sses for walking on his grass while knowing there was a dead body in his lying, stealing daughter's car. A brother who goes through his sister's things before LE can get to them knowing there could be evidence lost and who refuses to take a LDT or give his DNA in an effort to clear himself in an order to move things along to find his niece.

What is the stretch here to think that incest might not exist in this family?! How sick or crazy does a family have to be before that could be a possibility?!

Other than out of the mouth of LP, what is there to show that incest may be going on here? It's absurd to try and insinuate that they did this, that, and the other, so it's likely they're involved in incest, too. There is no rational thought process going into such a statement.

It's also not been proven that Casey killed Caylee because she was trying to get back at her mother. REDACTED It's also possible that Casey was trying to knock Caylee out with Chloroform and accidentally killed her. This is murder, too. Accidentally killing someone while getting tangled up in a felony (using chloroform) is murder.

You can say what you want about George, but we see what's in his heart from the posted interview he gave. He's just caught up in a position that he has no control over, yet loves his family very much. Do I agree with all that he's done? No, but then again, I don't have to walk a mile in his shoes, either.

Lee? He initially was trying to conduct an investigation on his own and when I listened to his interview, he seemed pretty forthcoming as well. Yes, he's now more interested in protecting his sister, but again, I've not walked a mile in his shoes, either.

If they have the evidence to charge either of them and can prove it in a court of law, so be it.

Now Cindy, she's in a league all her own. She probably feels guilty for a lot of the things she's done over the years. If she's charged, I will not only support LE in their efforts; if they can prove it, I will also cheer them on.

 

[karenmamo]

The other thing that bothers me is how this family appears to have no outside friends and no family has jumped forward on their behalf. This is an isolated family - I would guess isolated by their own choice. No cousins or long time friends are jumping out in their defense. They appear to avoid any long-term relationships outside their foursome. This is also typicdal of a family with secrets

.........skeletons=isolation.....by the book.

 

[NancyT]

Bravo, Missmb! Well said and all true.

True? LP was duped by little old Casey Anthony? Boo hoo It's absurd.

Oh and it's so rich to say LP was too smart for her lies? No, we message board posters were too smart for her lies. LP was a fool.

 

[Gaia713]

I think there are so many horrible things gone wrong in that house that adding
this to the pot is just too much. We realize it happens, it's just one more thing when there's already too many things...

How many skeletons can one closet hold?

I think you would be surprised.

 

[karenmamo]

I have to strongly disagree. When LP came into this case, his only intention was to find Caylee and honestly thought Casey would talk when she was out of jail. As we know, she was silenced by JB instead. He was duped. He lost $50,000.00 plus in his effort to find Caylee, but he has not quit trying. So I don't see where it comes in for LP only being here for selfish reasons. He has proven time and again it is not the case.

I don't have to defend LP since there is nothing to defend. He hasn't done anything wrong except try and find this child since the A fam has put up every roadblock in front of every effort to do this. I applaud his efforts and not being afraid to speak out against this family. :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Me also..however:.......

This dialog/debate between LP fans and LP haters has gone on for weeks on this forum.

What is the point?

The line has been drawn in the sand over this issue and few to none will be swayed from their position.

(One hate thread was started last night about 8 pm and was taken down.)

Looks like we will all have to wait for the particulars to play out.

 

[NancyT]

Hey lets get real here we have all become obsessed with KC and missing Caylee wanting to see justice and this little girl found so tell me how you see it any differently for LP he just has more money to get more involved than the rest of us do IMO Do not fool your selves to think if I had the money I would not be down there trying tp right this wrong as would a lot of others I am sure. jmo

I'd be there too, but I would have given the money to EquuSearch, then volunteered my time to help search. Tim Miller can put the money to the best use, IMO.

LP choose to put up 50K for someone to lead HIM to Caylee's remains. He needed the pat on the back. So, it's about LP, not Caylee where he's concerned. No one will convince me otherwise.

Then, about a week and a half ago, he yanks the reward money with the caveat that NO ONE can find her remains because they're in the dump. If that's so, why was he saying on Nancy Grace last week that Tim will find Caylee's remains right north of the airport? All without reinstating the reward money I might add.

He's got no credibility with me.

I would like to see the reward reinstated though. Maybe somehow get 50 grand donated to EquuSearch. After all, if LP's rumors turn out to be false, he'll likely lose every dime he has and rightfully so, IMO (and I hate most lawsuits).

 

[NancyT]

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Thank you seriously searching! I can see this board is split on LP! If he only wanted to "inject" himself into the case for business or fame or whatever they are saying on this board, it would be pretty stupid to make insinuations without a very good reason or without backup! Maybe he really did think he could get her to talk as it's worked in the past for him. She lawyered up making this impossible for him but he still got information...I agree with YOU!

Excuse me? She lawyered up before we ever heard the name, LP.

 

[Patty G]

Other than out of the mouth of LP, what is there to show that incest may be going on here? It's absurd to try and insinuate that they did this, that, and the other, so it's likely they're involved in incest, too. There is no rational thought process going into such a statement.

LP was cut off on NG show while trying to get out about Caylee, Casey and Lee DNA. What he later said was: "since Casey and Lee were brother and sister, with the same parents, there could be comparable DNA in Caylee's DNA." LP wanted to make it clear that this is what he was trying to say.

 

[MnkeyBznes]

While I don't agree with the whole incest theory, I do not see how LP's statement are that different from the statements made by the A's. He accuses Lee of bieng the father, Casey accuses JG of bieng the father. Cindy now accuses JG of bieng involved in Caylee's disapperance. They have accused ZG of bieng the nanny, JO of bieng the father. I think they are doing just find humiliating themselves. Some might say two wrongs don't make a right, I say what goes around comes around.

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