Leonard Padilla and Tim Miller on Scared Monkey Radio - 10/10/08

[Patty G]

I would like to see the reward reinstated though. Maybe somehow get 50 grand donated to EquuSearch.

For all we know maybe LP silently donated the money to Equusearch.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

LP was cut off on NG show while trying to get out about Caylee, Casey and Lee DNA. What he later said was: "since Casey and Lee were brother and sister, with the same parents, there could be comparable DNA in Caylee's DNA." LP wanted to make it clear that this is what he was trying to say.

No disrespect intended, but did you listen to the radio program? He did bring it up again about paternity. I don't see why we can't discuss what he said. I am confused now.

 

[Patty G]

No disrespect intended, but did you listen to the radio program? He did bring it up again about paternity. I don't see why we can't discuss what he said. I am confused now.

No, I didn't hear that program, just going on what LP said on NG.

 

[Susanlee]

Do you know where that 50k ended up?

If his brother Tony put up his own assets to guarantee the entire 50k then when KC's bond was revoked the 50k that LP put up ended up in Tony's pocket....He was the agent

Normally the insurance Company would take the 50k (minus Tony's commission) but in this case I thought Tony put up his own assets to back the entire 500k

I actually asked Tony Padilla if he had an agreement with his brother to return his 50k once they came off the bond.

Tony's answer was - "No, That would be illegal"

The Point is that Leonard may have put up the 50k but that 50k went to Tony once they came off the Bond.

So.....If Leonard is a hero for spending 50k to try & find Caylee what's that make Tony......A profiteer?

I also asked Tony Padilla if he had any plans to donate any "profits" that he made off this case to a missing children's organization.

His answer was......" There were a lot of expenses related to this case"

What expenses would those be? Airfare from California to FLA.....Not bad for 50k if you ask me.

All this doesn't matter anyway because It's my opinion that Tony returned the 50k to LP anyway

Hi. Been reading all about the "50K" stuff and had to respond. Not directed at just you IMO, LP and TP are honest, upstanding individuals who deserve nothing but respect. And if some do not want to agree with me there, that is ok.

On to the 50K. 50K to LP is one dollar to us. How posters can argue re who gets what money is beyond me. They have ALOT of money earned honestly over many years of hard work. If I had my wish, it would be that we stop with the 50K arguments.

 

[magiemay]

I'd be there too, but I would have given the money to EquuSearch, then volunteered my time to help search. Tim Miller can put the money to the best use, IMO.

LP choose to put up 50K for someone to lead HIM to Caylee's remains. He needed the pat on the back. So, it's about LP, not Caylee where he's concerned. No one will convince me otherwise.

Then, about a week and a half ago, he yanks the reward money with the caveat that NO ONE can find her remains because they're in the dump. If that's so, why was he saying on Nancy Grace last week that Tim will find Caylee's remains right north of the airport? All without reinstating the reward money I might add.

He's got no credibility with me.

I would like to see the reward reinstated though. Maybe somehow get 50 grand donated to EquuSearch. After all, if LP's rumors turn out to be false, he'll likely lose every dime he has and rightfully so, IMO (and I hate most lawsuits).

I am in hopes he gives it to Tim and equasearch also but I read somewhere that there was so much confusion with people searching for the body to get the reward that it was hindering LE from doing the searches they needed to do I don't know this for a fact but I did read it somewhere.

 

[Patty G]

No disrespect intended, but did you listen to the radio program? He did bring it up again about paternity. I don't see why we can't discuss what he said. I am confused now.

I removed my post and I will go and listen to the show.

 

[Talison]

No, I didn't hear that program, just going on what LP said on NG.

Okay, I'm confused. Isn't that what this thread is about, is the radio program?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

There are many who are conducting searches outside of the scope of LE, TES, and the proper channels are being ignored. I don't consider LP's group being one of those who are ignoring LE or TES. (One such group would be the Body Hunters who went out on their own, but were heavily publicized.)

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I removed my post and I will go and listen to the show.

Thanks, Patty! Just trying to be fair here.

 

[NancyT]

For all we know maybe LP silently donated the money to Equusearch.

And for all we know, he didn't.

Your tossing things out there that have no basis on fact.

I'd have to go out on a limb and say it's highly doubtful though. LP needs the pat on the back. If he donated to EquuSearch, he'd have to tell the world.

 

[Patty G]

Okay, I'm confused. Isn't that what this thread is about, is the radio program?

Yes it is about the radio program and unfortunatly I didn't listen to it and JUST remembering what was not allowed before regarding Lee and paternity.

 

[NancyT]

LP was cut off on NG show while trying to get out about Caylee, Casey and Lee DNA. What he later said was: "since Casey and Lee were brother and sister, with the same parents, there could be comparable DNA in Caylee's DNA." LP wanted to make it clear that this is what he was trying to say.

I don't care how he was cut off. Every guest on Nancy Grace is cut off. Him mentioning incest is out of line, IMO. It doesn't get anymore vile (without physically harming someone).

Why does he feel it's his job to try and totally humiliate this family? If something like that were to come to light, it should have been in a courtroom and not on the public airways. He's repulsive.

Remember, LP likes to help convicted pedophiles too, so his past behavior speaks volumes to his character.

You defend him all you want, but I never will.

 

[gardenhart]

Look at the situation here:

You have a family where the lying, stealing daughter probably killed her child out of spite for her mother. A mother who is lying to defend the daughter who probably killed her grandchild. A father who prefers to go out and kick other people's @sses for walking on his grass while knowing there was a dead body in his lying, stealing daughter's car. A brother who goes through his sister's things before LE can get to them knowing there could be evidence lost and who refuses to take a LDT or give his DNA in an effort to clear himself in an order to move things along to find his niece.

What is the stretch here to think that incest might not exist in this family?! How sick or crazy does a family have to be before that could be a possibility?!

Who said you have to either buy LP's story about the incest or discount the possibility of incest at all?

I see a number of us here essentially saying not that incest is impossible, only that we haven't seen enough real information to decide whether that's true or not.

But it seems that some here are insisting either you must accept LP's story or believe that incest is out of the question. It's not black or white. It's also possible to view LP as neither angel nor devil.

I think LA refusing to have a lie detector or DNA tests is pretty darned fishy but I also see there are quite a few other possibilities to explain that besides incest.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I will be good and say no more on the subject. I will still back LP to the hilt tho. GO LP!

 

[Chilly Willy]

I don't care how he was cut off. Every guest on Nancy Grace is cut off. Him mentioning incest is out of line, IMO. It doesn't get anymore vile (without physically harming someone).

Why does he feel it's his job to try and totally humiliate this family? If something like that were to come to light, it should have been in a courtroom and not on the public airways. He's repulsive.

Remember, LP likes to help convicted pedophiles too, so his past behavior speaks volumes to his character.

You defend him all you want, but I never will.

Nor will I. Look at all the ire that's directed at Casey for falsely naming JG as the father. LP creates a story out of thin air accusing Lee of being the father and everyone thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread. I don't get it. It appears to me that anyone who speaks against the Anthonys is considered a saint, whether there's any truth to what they say or not.

Again I ask, what purpose does it serve for LP to spread this information, whether it's true or false? How does it help in the search for Caylee?

 

[Seranade]

I don't care how he was cut off. Every guest on Nancy Grace is cut off. Him mentioning incest is out of line, IMO. It doesn't get anymore vile (without physically harming someone).

Why does he feel it's his job to try and totally humiliate this family? If something like that were to come to light, it should have been in a courtroom and not on the public airways. He's repulsive.

Remember, LP likes to help convicted pedophiles too, so his past behavior speaks volumes to his character.

You defend him all you want, but I never will.

Do what????????? I don't trust LP as far as I could throw him (which is to say, not at all) but I haven't heard this one. Do you have a source for that? And if it's true I don't know why people on a victim's advocate board would give him the time of day!

 

[butwhatif?]

Other than out of the mouth of LP, what is there to show that incest may be going on here? It's absurd to try and insinuate that they did this, that, and the other, so it's likely they're involved in incest, too. There is no rational thought process going into such a statement.

It's also not been proven that Casey killed Caylee because she was trying to get back at her mother. You're taking conjecture and tossing it off as fact. It's also possible that Casey was trying to knock Caylee out with Chloroform and accidentally killed her. This is murder, too. Accidentally killing someone while getting tangled up in a felony (using chloroform) is murder.

You can say what you want about George, but we see what's in his heart from the posted interview he gave. He's just caught up in a position that he has no control over, yet loves his family very much. Do I agree with all that he's done? No, but then again, I don't have to walk a mile in his shoes, either.

Lee? He initially was trying to conduct an investigation on his own and when I listened to his interview, he seemed pretty forthcoming as well. Yes, he's now more interested in protecting his sister, but again, I've not walked a mile in his shoes, either.

If they have the evidence to charge either of them and can prove it in a court of law, so be it.

Now Cindy, she's in a league all her own. She probably feels guilty for a lot of the things she's done over the years. If she's charged, I will not only support LE in their efforts; if they can prove it, I will also cheer them on.

Just because she googled chloroform doesnt mean she used it on caylee.... its just as likely that she wanted it for herself and her boyfriend. that is speculation , as is the sibling incest thing.
So we can speculate that based on her hyper sexuality, need for attention, her many icons involving children with strong sexual innuendo could be signs of a person who has experienced sibling incest.
I'd also like to point out that this situation is different to an uncle and neice or father son molestation etc.There was not a huge age gap between LA and kc and the idea does not disgust me-it saddens me.
Often this happens when children are not getting enough attention and comfort from adult caregivers so siblings turn to each other. And when you think about the fact that children are taught that you are intimate with people you love, it is difficult to distinguish at a youing age where those lines are drawn.
I cant imagine CA having a discussion about sexuality with her children, other than to say DONT DO IT.
Even when JG and KC were engaged she had issues with them laying in the same bed together.
The denial that it could be a possibility by some people here, reminds me of CAs denial, and is the reason why so many victims never see their abuser pay for what they have done.
People just dont want to believe that it happens.
I just dont get why posters can suggest that she may have been a stripper, or prostitute,that she used chloroform on her child, or locked her in the boot of the car, or that she had planned the death of her daughter, that she may have been planning to kill her parents etc but they refuse to accept the possibilty that incest was involved until it is proven with DNA.
Now if people were suggesting that LE or KC were doing inappropriate things with caylee, i could understand the objections. There is a big difference between the two situations.
Oh....and if it makes anybody feel better it can also be classified as sibling sexuality when it is consensual.
Finally, one of the things that made me seriously consider the idea was that there was such a huge turnaround after the first few days after Caylee was finally reported as missing. To me its suggests that KC has something that she is holding over her family, that has forced them to support her now....It could be anything though.we just dont know with all the secrets in that family.
Sorry- i know your post wasnt directed at me, but just had to jump in.

 

[Patty G]

And for all we know, he didn't.

Your tossing things out there that have no basis on fact.

I'd have to go out on a limb and say it's highly doubtful though. LP needs the pat on the back. If he donated to EquuSearch, he'd have to tell the world.

We don't know either way, so I am tossing out the unknown.

I know I personally ask LP on 9/5/08 at 1:48 PM (it's still on his website) to donate the money to Equusearch when LP offered up the money to anyone that would tell LP where Caylee's body is.

Based on how the public treated LP when he came to Florida and put up the bond, then the first reward money for Caylee and then the third reward money for Caylee, I think LP learned that if he made any other donations, he was wise to just keep it to himself because no matter what LP did, someone was bound to bash him for it!

 

[MnkeyBznes]

I don't care how he was cut off. Every guest on Nancy Grace is cut off. Him mentioning incest is out of line, IMO. It doesn't get anymore vile (without physically harming someone).

Why does he feel it's his job to try and totally humiliate this family? If something like that were to come to light, it should have been in a courtroom and not on the public airways. He's repulsive.

Remember, LP likes to help convicted pedophiles too, so his past behavior speaks volumes to his character.

You defend him all you want, but I never will.

Wow do u know this man? Not being disrespectful just wondering why your posts are so hateful to him? He seems to me to be just another player dragged into this, naive maybe? a little arrogant maybe?? but definately not diabolicle to say the least, imo

 

[Chilly Willy]

Who said you have to either buy LP's story about the incest or discount the possibility of incest at all?

I see a number of us here essentially saying not that incest is impossible, only that we haven't seen enough real information to decide whether that's true or not.

But it seems that some here are insisting either you must accept LP's story or believe that incest is out of the question. It's not black or white. It's also possible to view LP as neither angel nor devil.

I think LA refusing to have a lie detector or DNA tests is pretty darned fishy but I also see there are quite a few other possibilities to explain that besides incest.

Good post, Gardenhart. LP has spread this rumor and now half the world is convinced that Lee is indeed the father of little Caylee. Proof, of course, is in Caylee's name - because it is 'sort of kind of' a cross between the names Casey and Lee. Who needs DNA testing when it's a fact that every child who is a product of incest has a name derived from both of the parents.