Leonard Padilla and Tim Miller on Scared Monkey Radio - 10/10/08

[NancyT]

Here is a .pdf of a Sacramento Bee article about LP's involvement with a child molestor. Sorry I couldn't get it from the Sacramento Bee site.

http://mylifeofcrime.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/sex-offender-evicted-by-hotel.doc

Thank you. He did more than I thought he did.

 

[magic-cat]

What I am finding so inconceivable about this entire argument is that every person who is saying that nobody should help sex-offenders, or anyone who helps a sex-offender is off my Christmas card list basically is not thinking this through to the grand finale' of that thought.

What SHOULD be done with them when the law says they are free to go?
Who SHOULD be responsible for keeping up with them and placing them in areas away from children?
Where SHOULD they live, and work and go to church?
and WHO DECIDES?

You and me as average citizens? Do we decide that the legal system is debunk and go and serve our own justice on these individuals?

I mean, if Leonard is so horrible, then tell me what WOULD have been acceptable to do with this individual and who SHOULD have done it?

 

[Mysterylover]

IF LA is Caylee's father, I'm afraid the defense will use this in their favor. I have never thought KC was anything other than a cold blooded killer and "spiteful beeotch", as she so adequately described herself, but if this is the case, it sends my brain down a new path.

Even though I still think of her this way, I am now thinking to myself, if KC is a victim of incest, and if it was forced,

the defense might indeed try and use the post traumatic distress.

Studies have shown many incest victims are prone to promiscuity, prostitution, and a lot of other illegal and immoral habits.

IF it is shown LA is the father, and IF it was forced.

I'm not saying it's an excuse for killing the baby, but Im saying Jose will use this to try and save KC's butt from the death penalty.....

Want2help...I agree...:silenced:.

 

[Black Magic Woman]

Go to registered sex offenders registry for your state and look at the sex offenders who live by you. The law says they get sent back to the county where they did the crime. I KNOW pedophiles do not rehabilitate, but I am not a judge or a jury am I?

no, they have already had the judge and/or jury and been convicted! Yes, I do go on my local website regularly and check so I can be on guard for my children. But to ask for/allow a pedophile to live on your property, invite into your neighborhood, is a big issue. Think it's great to have a big heart and give some people a second chance, but with pedophiles (when we all know the lack of sucess of rehab), it's not worth the risk to our children. sorry, this is only the opionion of one very concerned parent who is tired of pedophiles having more rights that innocent children.

 

[NancyT]

LP let the guy stay in his office building. The guy had an ankle monitor, a guard at the door, and the building is full of attorneys and bail bondsmen. He was actually more secure than KC. LP said he did it "because no one else would".

LP is a bounty hunter with a heart!
:blowkiss:

Oh yeah, with a heart. If he had a heart, he'd have let the scum of the Earth live on the street.

When was the last time you stepped up to the plate to help a convicted sexual predator of any type?

This is deserving of kudos in your opinion? Boy, if so, we have nothing in common.

BTW, that security isn't ever a permanent thing. It's in place until the offender registers.

 

[magic-cat]

no, they have already had the judge and/or jury and been convicted! Yes, I do go on my local website regularly and check so I can be on guard for my children. But to ask for/allow a pedophile to live on your property, invite into your neighborhood, is a big issue. Think it's great to have a big heart and give some people a second chance, but with pedophiles (when we all know the lack of sucess of rehab), it's not worth the risk to our children. sorry, this is only the opionion of one very concerned parent who is tired of pedophiles having more rights that innocent children.

The property in question was a 60 acre tract with a trailer on it. The only neighbors was a gated community...

 

[vickycopsy]

His goal has not changed which is to find Caylee.

I agree SS. While I wish LP would quit talking about incest, I agree that the man DOES seem devoted to finding Caylee. I love how he calls KC a liar, and I love how he is determined to find that baby. LP seems to be one person desperate to get answers.

I often wonder if LE isn't whispering little tidbits in his ear for him to "slip out" on Nancy Grace to rattle KC. I just think Caylee's parentage isn't really necessary to solving this mystery. It just throws more mud on KC of course, which I don't mind, but if it is not true it is very tasteless to spew out incest accusations on public airwaves over and over.

I love my LP though...

 

[BlueEyedSpy]

I believe LP was told he would have access to KC..remember she supposedly left Caylee with the non-existant nanny. LP thought this was gonna be a bounty hunter type case with tracking and investigating.

And like I said, if he assumed that, then he was foolish. Don't forget that Casey had long since retained Baez by the time LP came to Florida, and LP knew that she was under counsel. Bounty Hunter or not, that's his position, but doesn't speak at all of Casey's position, which was by then, a client in a criminal case.

He should have had enough respect for protocol of the law to know that having retained an Attorney certainly trumps whatever ideas of grandeur that he had for himself to become someone's hero.

 

[seekingjustice**]

Wow, just popped in for a read and couldn't believe how this thread has turned into a 'Bash LP fest'.. Shouldn't this debate about Pedofiles be elsewhere

 

[Mysterylover]

This revelation would explain a seemingly normal girl abandoning her job, dropping out of school, and slipping into a sociopath's skin.

The ultimate shame involved would be a good starting point into mental disorder.
It would explain the immediate family denial she was pregnant into the 7th month when Cindy's brother got married.
It would explain the sleeping around after Caylee was born.
This would also explain the sudden change in the family after the 3rd 911 call.
It would also explain the polygraph refusal and Lee's refusal to submit to a DNA test.
Certainly, LE might have already gotten DNA information but to use it in any court they would need to officially receive it thus the subpoena. It would explain just about everything. So far no denials, and this might be Baez's trump card in an insanity plea.....

Broderick....It would explain a lot....:doh:

 

[MnkeyBznes]

Well, he should have known better. By the time he got involved the whole world knew there was no real ZFG. I do find it funny though that he apparently was duped by Baez considering that most people seem to think Baez is as dumb as a box of rocks.

Look there are still people out there who insist there is a ZFG. The Anthony's being some of them. Personally I have not drank the koolaid. I think LP is a man with a big heart who thought he could help. He tried. What he states is his own opinion and he is entitled to it. Whether he is right on this one remains to be seen. I, for one still support LP and no amount of bullying is going to change my mind.

 

[BlueEyedSpy]

What I am finding so inconceivable about this entire argument is that every person who is saying that nobody should help sex-offenders, or anyone who helps a sex-offender is off my Christmas card list basically is not thinking this through to the grand finale' of that thought.

What SHOULD be done with them when the law says they are free to go?
Who SHOULD be responsible for keeping up with them and placing them in areas away from children?
Where SHOULD they live, and work and go to church?
and WHO DECIDES?

You and me as average citizens? Do we decide that the legal system is debunk and go and serve our own justice on these individuals?

I mean, if Leonard is so horrible, then tell me what WOULD have been acceptable to do with this individual and who SHOULD have done it?

They should be shunned like the scum of the earth that they are, and as open minded as I normally am, there is NO ROOM AT THE INN in my world for people who harm children.

 

[Black Magic Woman]

The property in question was a 60 acre tract with a trailer on it. The only neighbors was a gated community...

Look, I don't mean to be argumentive but I live on/own more than 100 acres and we can see neighbors homes from our property. to access the the neighborhood is a 3 minute walk, so I'm not sure what the 6o acre tract is supposed to do for protection. When you look at the tract record of pedophiles and the the research out there, there isn't much more to say. Remember the case in florida a year or so ago when the little girl was raped and then buried alive by a formerly convicted pediphile? Happens all the time, repeatedly. Hate to argue but this is one of those issues that I can't be liberal on.

 

[JustJax]

Here is another story about how the Padlillas came into this case and what they hoped to achieve.

(bold is mine)

This could be Casey Anthony's last weekend in jail before she goes to trial.

Sacramento-based bail bondsman and bounty hunter Leonard Padilla said his nephew, Tony Padilla, will post the 10 percent of Casey Anthony's $500,000 bond needed to release her on Monday.

"I want to find the baby," Leonard Padilla said. "I think the baby is alive and I want to find her. I want to help. I want to do what I can."

The Padillas said they were contacted by a third party, not the Anthony family, and that they had seen the coverage of the case.

On Sunday night, Padilla said he will arrive in Orlando to meet with lawyers, including Casey Anthony's lawyer Jose Baez.

"We're hoping that once she's out of custody she'll be easier to talk to than she's been in custody," Leonard Padilla said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17113783/detail.html

 

[Black Magic Woman]

they should be shunned like the scum of the earth that they are, and as open minded as i normally am, there is no room at the inn in my world for people who harm children.

thank you!!!!!!

 

[NancyT]

BEing a pedophile does not necessarily mean harming a child. He could have been a kiddie guy or raped a 16 year old. Both would still give him the title of pedophile. I would want more information about the case before passing judgment on what LP is doing. 60 acres is a large piece of land. If the trailer is adjacent to the communityu and near a park or school, I could see the problem. I believe in CA, a convicted pedophile cannot live within 1000 yards of a school or gathering place of children.

I'm sure this has already been pointed out (I'm so far behind in the thread), but if you had read the link Betty Boop posted, you'd have read:

Boggs was convicted twice of molesting 9-year-old boys in the 1980s and was sent to Atascadero as a "sexually violent predator," a classification considered the highest-risk.


It also said LP helped him get registered, get tools for a job, etc... He ended up living in a suite of LP's instead of the mobile home/trailer.

 

[edgeofnight]

What I am finding so inconceivable about this entire argument is that every person who is saying that nobody should help sex-offenders, or anyone who helps a sex-offender is off my Christmas card list basically is not thinking this through to the grand finale' of that thought.

What SHOULD be done with them when the law says they are free to go?
Who SHOULD be responsible for keeping up with them and placing them in areas away from children?
Where SHOULD they live, and work and go to church?
and WHO DECIDES?

You and me as average citizens? Do we decide that the legal system is debunk and go and serve our own justice on these individuals?

I mean, if Leonard is so horrible, then tell me what WOULD have been acceptable to do with this individual and who SHOULD have done it?

Well, after reading all these posts for the past 15 min, something tells me you should not have asked that question. LOL. I hope the answer isn't shot the individual, but one never knows.

 

[NancyT]

And we are doing it on the internet. Why is one media worse than the other? The internet is widely viewed as well...

Well, we can be sued, too. You're right about that. I don't know about you, but I'm not tossing accusations out there about the Anthony family. I most certainly have and will continue to speculate, but it clear that I am stating an opinion. I can't be sued because someone doesn't like my opinion.

LP isn't stating this as his opinion and what he is saying can destroy a person's name. Oh, and if the Anthony's think he has money, all the better and more reason to sue him.

 

[magic-cat]

Look, I don't mean to be argumentive but I live on/own more than 100 acres and we can see neighbors homes from our property. to access the the neighborhood is a 3 minute walk, so I'm not sure what the 6o acre tract is supposed to do for protection. When you look at the tract record of pedophiles and the the research out there, there isn't much more to say. Remember the case in florida a year or so ago when the little girl was raped and then buried alive by a formerly convicted pediphile? Happens all the time, repeatedly. Hate to argue but this is one of those issues that I can't be liberal on.

I am not being liberal on this issue. I hate child molesters more than most and would dearly love to see every one of them burned alive. BUT

this is not about my own personal desires. This is about the country we reside in and the laws of that country. What all of you seem to be saying as far as I can tell is this:

Once they are released some vigilante should take it upon themselves to murder them? Is that what is being said and if not then what? Not one person has answered my questions. Everyone is so prepared to say what should NOT be done with them, will someone please step up and finish the thought and state what SHOULD be done with them? That is all I am asking...

 

[Gaia713]

I have agreed with and liked a lot of your posts until now. I believe that kiddie , and raping a 16 year old is all harming a child. I am hoping that you mis-stated or I misunderstood your post.

I am just saying that being labeled a pedophile does not necessarily mean violence against a child. The Catholic Church moves pedophiles from parish to parish with no rehabil8itation whatsoever. There's one who was placed in a parish in Turlock who was removed from another parish for molestation of boys. There are laws in CA where pedophiles can live and I mis-stated the nearness to a school of child-oriented location - it's a quart er mile away. When I lived in another state, there was one living in a house that backed up (no fence) to a school playground and nothing was done. They can also be forced to wear GPS ankle bracelets - (not the kind KC has), There are controls that can be used against them and 60 acres is a large parcel of land. The article did not say the trailer was adjacent to a community.