Letters to Casey from Cindy and George

[LambChop]

Great post and insight, as usual, Beach!

As a sidenote to the bold above fwiw (since it's not relevant to anything important), but I've read that Dr. Glass is dyslexic. Thus the many misspellings. No excuse for not using spellcheck or having someone proof her writings, however.

I'm dyslexic. No problems spelling. I just often start at the end of things and go backwards. Papers, magazines, mazes, etc. Not sure that is part of it...it's just what I do without thinking. But I can spell fine. Well, I think I can..???? Regular math okay, even algebra....but don't give me a word problem. Show me once I've got it. Give me written directions I'm lost. I never had all the symptoms but enough to qualify.

 

[CuriousTwo]

Page 90 here: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24039447/detail.html

Do you think this is true? Or, is it just CA attempting to cover for ICA not wanting to communicate with them (since CA knew the letters would eventually be released)?

(Sorry if this has been discussed - I usually only have weekends to catch up on posts here.)

 

[The World According]

Page 90 here: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24039447/detail.html

Do you think this is true? Or, is it just CA attempting to cover for ICA not wanting to communicate with them (since CA knew the letters would eventually be released)?

(Sorry if this has been discussed - I usually only have weekends to catch up on posts here.)

Hi CT:
Both Andrea and Brad have said publicly that they believe there should be visits. Jose is the one who is telling her not to, imo.
He got some advice early on in this case, when he sent out an SOS to other lawyers for clues. One person that responded to him , told him Stop those visits at once!! Here you go: It was Richard Horsby.
He has since changed his mind , at the time she had not been in jail for two years. View attachment Baez Email-Exchange.pdf when you click on the attachment, roll to the second page.

I do think when it comes time to appeal you will see on her list, she got very very bad advice from her lawyer and it really messed her up emotionally and mentally being in lock down 23 hours a day, and having no visitors , for two years. It is cruel and unusual punishment, I agree. I do not agree as to who is to blame for that. It is not the city, the county, Judge Strickland, Judge Perry, LE or prosecutors, other inmates, or the tooth fairy's fault. I blame Jose.

MOO Here Brad tells Geralo that Baez gave strict instructions, no visits without his prior knowledge! [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o4YsgbNSSs[/ame]
Aside, He also told Geraldo, "Certainly she cannot testify!" This from the attorney of the parents that claim they believe their daughter is telling the truth!!! You just can't make this stuff up!!

 

[LambChop]

Hi CT:
Both Andrea and Brad have said publicly that they believe there should be visits. Jose is the one who is telling her not to, imo.
He got some advice early on in this case, when he sent out an SOS to other lawyers for clues. One person that responded to him , told him Stop those visits at once!! Here you go: It was Richard Horsby.
He has since changed his mind , at the time she had not been in jail for two years. View attachment 10066 when you click on the attachment, roll to the second page.

I do think when it comes time to appeal you will see on her list, she got very very bad advice from her lawyer and it really messed her up emotionally and mentally being in lock down 23 hours a day, and having no visitors , for two years. It is cruel and unusual punishment, I agree. I do not agree as to who is to blame for that. It is not the city, the county, Judge Strickland, Judge Perry, LE or prosecutors, other inmates, or the tooth fairy's fault. I blame Jose.

MOO

We could blame KC. If she told the truth instead of trying to blame everyone else she'd be in general population by now...... jmo

 

[CuriousTwo]

Hi CT:
Both Andrea and Brad have said publicly that they believe there should be visits. Jose is the one who is telling her not to, imo.
He got some advice early on in this case, when he sent out an SOS to other lawyers for clues. One person that responded to him , told him Stop those visits at once!! Here you go: It was Richard Horsby.
He has since changed his mind , at the time she had not been in jail for two years. View attachment 10066 when you click on the attachment, roll to the second page.

I do think when it comes time to appeal you will see on her list, she got very very bad advice from her lawyer and it really messed her up emotionally and mentally being in lock down 23 hours a day, and having no visitors , for two years. It is cruel and unusual punishment, I agree. I do not agree as to who is to blame for that. It is not the city, the county, Judge Strickland, Judge Perry, LE or prosecutors, other inmates, or the tooth fairy's fault. I blame Jose.

MOO

Hi, TWA!!! I had never seen that - that's pretty interesting. Looks as if JB took most of RH's advice. Wonder if the comments JB has already made to the media (repeating what ICA said to him) will come back to haunt him at trial? After all, he's certainly up against a "slick" prosecutor, fortunately! Thanks again for sharing the link!

 

[The World According]

We could blame KC. If she told the truth instead of trying to blame everyone else she'd be in general population by now...... jmo

Yes, you are right. I should have said I blame Casey, because afteral, she is the boss! :rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling:

 

[Bobbisangel]

I'm pretty sure what they found was it was George searchin' the , not the killing people stuff.

Could it have been Lee using his parents computer because he didn't want the girlfriend to know that he looks at ?

 

[The World According]

Do we have any idea what caused the wounds which cause Cindy to stay mad??

Gosh, I do not, but if I knew of a way to wash it away for her so she could feel normal and happy, I'd finance it myself. Diane Fanning wrote in her book about Cindy's formative years, but I do not recall what.

 

[CuriousTwo]

Do we have any idea what caused the wounds which cause Cindy to stay mad??

I thought she was referring to being taken advantage of financially by her immediate family ... she was the only breadwinner and the only one living in the home who consistently had a paying, full-time job ... covering GA's gambling debts, covering ICA's theft from family members and CA, and CA covering all living expenses for ICA and Caylee. I didn't consider that she was referring to her childhood ... I'd never read anywhere that she had a troubled childhood. I'll check into Diane Fanning's book.

 

[Leila]

I've been trying to catch up on this thread, and haven't read every single post, so forgive me if this has already been posted.

We've all noted that George hasn't attended the last few court hearings, and it seems to coincide with the letters between Casey and Robin being released. In that batch of letters, Casey accused George and Lee of incest. And we've seen George's response in the letter he sent Casey about destroying everyone.

I think most, including myself, have felt that George is very upset with Casey's accusation and has made a decision to refrain from attending court hearings in a conscious effort to show his anger. He's turning his back on her.

But, I think there's something else going on too. After Casey's arrest on October 14, 2008 George and Cindy attended every court hearing, and Casey ignored them until she was finally prompted to acknowledge their presence by JB. For the most part, she ignored her parents.

Now, with George no longer attending the hearings, Casey is acknowledging Cindy.

This leads me to conclude that it was George, not Cindy, Casey was most angry with and she ignored both parents because of George's presence. I think Casey's anger towards George goes back further.........back to when she was bonded out of jail by LP, and within hours of coming home George confronted her and angrily demanded answers. After that confrontation, George left the house and took a walk, with Lee later going after him.

Then, on October 14, 2008, George testified before the grand jury and later that day Casey was indicted and arrested. Prior to the grand jury hearing, Casey had begged her mother to stop George from testifying.

I think Casey is angry with George because he doesn't buy all her lies hook, line, and sinker. Publicly George defended Casey, but privately he demanded answers. George did his duty and testified before the grand jury, even though Casey had tried to manipulate her mother into preventing his testimony. Casey blames George for her being arrested and put in jail.

Casey not only ignored her parents when George was present in the courtroom, but she sought a way to punish him - by making the accusation that he had molested her.

 

[RR0004]

I've been trying to catch up on this thread, and haven't read every single post, so forgive me if this has already been posted.

We've all noted that George hasn't attended the last few court hearings, and it seems to coincide with the letters between Casey and Robin being released. In that batch of letters, Casey accused George and Lee of incest. And we've seen George's response in the letter he sent Casey about destroying everyone.

I think most, including myself, have felt that George is very upset with Casey's accusation and has made a decision to refrain from attending court hearings in a conscious effort to show his anger. He's turning his back on her.

But, I think there's something else going on too. After Casey's arrest on October 14, 2008 George and Cindy attended every court hearing, and Casey ignored them until she was finally prompted to acknowledge their presence by JB. For the most part, she ignored her parents.

Now, with George no longer attending the hearings, Casey is acknowledging Cindy.

This leads me to conclude that it was George, not Cindy, Casey was most angry with and she ignored both parents because of George's presence. I think Casey's anger towards George goes back further.........back to when she was bonded out of jail by LP, and within hours of coming home George confronted her and angrily demanded answers. After that confrontation, George left the house and took a walk, with Lee later going after him.

Then, on October 14, 2008, George testified before the grand jury and later that day Casey was indicted and arrested. Prior to the grand jury hearing, Casey had begged her mother to stop George from testifying.

I think Casey is angry with George because he doesn't buy all her lies hook, line, and sinker. Publicly George defended Casey, but privately he demanded answers. George did his duty and testified before the grand jury, even though Casey had tried to manipulate her mother into preventing his testimony. Casey blames George for her being arrested and put in jail.

Casey not only ignored her parents when George was present in the courtroom, but she sought a way to punish him - by making the accusation that he had molested her.

BBM

I hadn't heard this...are these your thoughts...or has this been reported? Just wondering if I missed something.
Thanks.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Could it have been Lee using his parents computer because he didn't want the girlfriend to know that he looks at ?

Sure, it could be Lee but I think they were able to identify who was doing the searches because of other internet activity during the same time frame. But who knows?!

 

[TorisMom003]

Gosh, I do not, but if I knew of a way to wash it away for her so she could feel normal and happy, I'd finance it myself. Diane Fanning wrote in her book about Cindy's formative years, but I do not recall what.

Two paragraphs from Diane Fanning's book Mommy's Little Girl that describe Cindy growing up. Page 72 of the book.

Being the first girl after a string of boys gave Cindy exalted status in the family. She often took advantage of her position, causing her brothers to nickname her "The Princess." She steamed whenever her parents said "No." It wasn't unusual for one of ther older brothers to say, "Look, you're the girl and the last child, but the world does not revolve around you."

As the youngest, Cindy benefited the most from the gradual improvement in the family's finances. Her parents gave her a car when she graduated from high school and paid for her education at Trumball Memorial Hospital, where she earned her degree as a registered nurse.

Sounds to me like Cindy had an upbringing that was similar to what Casey had. Youngest girl child, "The Princess", steamed if parents said no, given a car, took advantage of the situation. It also does not sound like it was a horrible childhood.

 

[Leila]

BBM

I hadn't heard this...are these your thoughts...or has this been reported? Just wondering if I missed something.
Thanks.

It was reported at the time it happened. At this point, I can't remember who reported it. Kathy Belich? I definitely remember reading that Casey had begged her mother to stop George from testifying. It's late........I'll see if I can find where I read it tomorrow.

 

[The World According]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=975vgaVILPE[/ame]

Here she makes an effort to wave to her folks. The fact that she no longer does is clearly on purpose.

 

[The World According]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgwCS94Bh4E[/ame]
Has she been setting George up all along? She said he borrowed her car, that George had ran over something,etc. George, George, not her. Why?

 

[Leila]

BBM

I hadn't heard this...are these your thoughts...or has this been reported? Just wondering if I missed something.
Thanks.

I've searched today and can't find the thread in question. I definitely remember a long thread subsequent to George Anthony's grand jury testimony, and in that thread was a report that Cindy Anthony didn't want George to testify, and that Casey had begged her mother to stop George from testifying.

After Oct. 14, 2008 - the day of the grand jury, the indictment, and Casey's arrest, there was a lot of speculation about why George and Cindy weren't visiting Casey in jail. There was a brief video of Cindy Anthony explaining to the media that they wouldn't be making jail visits to Casey because every time they visited her in jail that was the media focus. She said Casey wanted the media focus on finding Caylee.

Many here speculated at that time that it was Casey who refused visits from her parents. I think the report of Casey wanting Cindy to stop George from testifying before the grand jury may have come up in discussions of why there were no jail house visits.

I hope someone here will remember conversations about this. I'll look some more this evening.

 

[faefrost]

I've searched today and can't find the thread in question. I definitely remember a long thread subsequent to George Anthony's grand jury testimony, and in that thread was a report that Cindy Anthony didn't want George to testify, and that Casey had begged her mother to stop George from testifying.

After Oct. 14, 2008 - the day of the grand jury, the indictment, and Casey's arrest, there was a lot of speculation about why George and Cindy weren't visiting Casey in jail. There was a brief video of Cindy Anthony explaining to the media that they wouldn't be making jail visits to Casey because every time they visited her in jail that was the media focus. She said Casey wanted the media focus on finding Caylee.

Many here speculated at that time that it was Casey who refused visits from her parents. I think the report of Casey wanting Cindy to stop George from testifying before the grand jury may have come up in discussions of why there were no jail house visits.

I hope someone here will remember conversations about this. I'll look some more this evening.

I remember the whole thread and discussion, and I do remember that somewhere there was a piece of info about KC begging CA to get GA to not testify. I can't find the thread now, but my sometimes faulty memory is kicking up that the story of KC's wanting CA to stop GA was relayed to the public, or told by LP. So take it with that in mind.

 

[sleutherontheside]

Still looking for the reference to KC asking GA NOT to testify....but according to her discussion with LE on the day of her indictment (10-14-08)....transcript here http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20224622/detail.html page 19 of 32, line 19....

"Well I told him last night I know he was subpoenaed and under the law he had to answer whatever questions were asked. And I told him to do what he had to do at that point. And if he didn't he'd be held in contempt of court."

line 23
"I don't want to see that happen."

page 20 line 1
"he just hugged me and told me he loved me and I know he was struggling with it even last night so"

 

[LCoastMom]

Words fail me... My only thought is "un-freakin' believable!"

I second that, CA is either completely coo coo or will be before long. She is also very passive aggressive with KC, those ruffled blouses attest to that. Nothing wrong with a plain white or pastel blouse. I don't believe those ruffles are fulfilling CA's desire to make KC look young and innocent either. But I guess she will never stop trying to make KC over, way too late for that.

I wonder when AL was made president or "owner" of DePaul University, is it only a matter of time before they change the name to the Lyon Method School of Law? :sick:

I don't get this...I just renewed my DD's online and had it sent to my house, what card did she have to sign?

That would be her organ donor card...:innocent: