Levi Page Show 5/9/10 10 PM ET

[butterfly1978]

To me LPs offer to post bail being pulled off the table right before a hearing where the state wanted Ron to show where the money is coming from (not from illegal means) says more about the funding then anything.

And their being a plea deal on the table does not mean anyone is talking, or that the state approached anyone with the deal. Ron's attorney, if they are doing their job, can talk to the state and see what options are there for his client. Ron making a guilty plea and doing 15 years is not a bad thing for the state that is paying through the nose for this family.

No trial, no risk, no appeals, Ron behind bars, Ron behind bars for a good chunk of time versus him possibly walking at trial (wilder things have happened) and Haleigh's case never being resolved? I don't see how the state would be reckless in making that deal personally. Especially if additional charges related to Haleigh could be brought later.

moo

LP could have pulled his offer to bail him out off the table prior to the hearing so the state filed the motion for the Neubia hearing to say okay LP isn't bailing you out so how are you getting the money thus leading the defense to pull the original motion.

 

[Zoe Bogart]

Does the judge not work for the state?

The judge is a county judge. I looked it up a few weeks ago.

Yes, there are judges who preside over state trials, and are paid by the state, just as there are Federal judges. In this case, they're dealing with county court and county judge at this level.

 

[impatientredhead]

LP could have pulled his offer to bail him out off the table prior to the hearing so the state filed the motion for the Neubia hearing to say okay LP isn't bailing you out so how are you getting the money thus leading the defense to pull the original motion.

The hearing was scheduled before the date that LP just said he rescinded his offer.

 

[dodie20]

But how do we know any of what LP said is factual? I am confused...is everything he says supposed to taken as true and correct? I just don't see it that way. I never thought RC passed his poly, but LP saying so does not make it true to me. Or any of the rest of it...I am going to have to wait to have some LE verification for any of this...that's just me...

Well, LP is pretty legit & has a way of getting people to talk. I'M just glad that he admitted his source was someone with LE, now if we could just find out who Nancy Grace's source is. If it is aslo someone from LE, we have a problem, because her source says Ron passed. But to be honest, that LDT has always bugged me. It bugged me that Misty was so willing to take the things & have her private info shared with the public, but Ron's 1 & only has been shrouded in secrecy. I've never believed that he passed, & an episode of Grace convinced me that they weren't even sure.

 

[Whisperer]

I would love to think NG was doing a service for LE. I cannot imagine why she didn't catch on to him from the start.

 

[Whisperer]

I haven't even listened yet..just got home...OMG!! TN probably has LP on speed dial.

 

[azwriter]

Well after hearing all that I am convinced that the Cummings family has known all along that they were suspect and have been trying to divert blame anyway they can. I had long suspected Ronald failed his LDT. Police only said they were 'satisfied' with the results of both he and Misty.
If Leonard is to be believed........then Ron and company have known all along that it was deep around them and now I have to rethink this whole thing. Now I have to figure out why they told the story they told and why they made every move they have so far. Translated..........back to square one as I have felt Ron was in this from day one.

What I really wanna know is why LE is being so quite about this?

Gwen, I know this is the Levi Show thread, but maybe I can provide a possible answer to your last question about LE being so quiet.

I've always thought it's taken over a year for LE is even get close to an arrest in Haleigh's case because there are so many people involved. I think not only Ron and Misty, but his mother and GGM Sykes have figured in this case as to covering and cleaning up evidence as well as withholding information about Haleigh's fate. Basically covering for Ron's involvement.
That being the case, LE needed to build the case to cover everyone, no matter to what degree they were involved, into charges to be filed and arrests made. They want them all in one swoop.
LE could not charge or arrest just one or two suspects,like Misty and Tommy or Ron, that would no doubt scare the others off or they would lawyer up. My idea has always been that LE needed to hold everything back in order to sweep the entire group in one big bust. Even to the point of making those they suspect are involved, think they were in the clear. All that investigation of so many people, involved with a different degree, would take time, plenty of time. And require absolute silence on LE's part.
It's all jmo of course. Sorry, if this should be in the Theory thread, but the question was asked.

 

[Whisperer]

Jessigirl, you don't have to provide a link for me, I believe you. The house was stripped completely....bare bones. NG was paying to have a tour is what I understood. TN and AS got in there and made it as presentable as they could (though I wouldl have thrown the ratty pillow of Haleigh's in the garbage.

I have heard the same thing about his places before. It was the same ole story. They were a disaster. He must move when it gets too much. TN was making excuses (that LE wrecked the house) about the house being a mess. My guess is that it was a mess before LE arrived.

 

[dodie20]

I am intrigued that LP says that Linsey filed for divorce because Tommy's involved. What took her so long??? now, I want to know HOW involved. not much going on with Joe lately, but I do think he's involved. I remember that cops reaction to Joe lawyering up.

 

[Zoe Bogart]

<snipped for space>
TN states in the NG full, videotaped tour of the mh,(which to my knowledge was anyones first look at the inside of the mh)she clearly states that her and GGS had entered the mh after LE released it and that it was a destroyed mess(NG then comments on it not being LE job to clean up there mess)TN says that her and GGS thoroughly cleaned and put the house back in order.....TN and Marlena(NG producer) are standing at the back door(the one held by cinder block)discussing how that both doors(wooden&outer screen door)both left alone would automatically close on their own, so NG asked TN if that were the case then how if the outer door was held open with cinderblock,then nothing holding the wooden door that it would infact shut itself not able to be free standing open as MC claimed when she awoke.

Yes, you are absolutely correct. Maybe some of the people didn't see that walk-through. I saw it online (no cable TV here). What you said is exactly what I remember, too. TN saying Misty wasn't a neat housekeeper and the laundry always piled on the floor. I remember the door demonstration, too.

I don't know how LE found the MH when they went to investigate. My suspicion has always been that it was cleaned up prior to LE's visit. I think that's part of the reason LE has had such a difficult time, no evidence, or very little.

 

[Whisperer]

Back to square one. I almost forgot about ron hiring a defense attorney. He was the first one to do so. If ron has anything to tell that doesn't involve him, he will sing like a canary.

By the month of March 2009, rc hired an attorney. It was not for the custody as I just read the attorney's words. He was hired to help rc navigate the media and help him with LE. That was the first ones. Now we have Shoey. How many grieving fathers of missing children need a CRIMINAL defense attorney? That used to be my mantra. It's been awhile, folks, it bears repeating.

 

[azwriter]

Yes, you're correct as far as I know. I have read that the trailer was like a bomb hit it when LE arrived. There was so much stuff on the floor they could hardly walk through it. They cleaned it up for the cameras.

Thanks to everyone for transcribing! I will listen tomorrow. What an exciting show!
They've got to be ready to make some charges soon. I wonder how much truth is there to Ron's plea deal? I thought he would be the last to crack out of the three. Never say die and all that.

I would think if there's a plea deal for 15 years and Ron is ready to accept it, the deal would only be for the drug selling charges. Nothing to do with Haleigh's death. He's not in jail now for that nor has he been charged - just caught selling controlled substance. I would suspect Ron would take the plea deal on the drugs hoping LE would then leave him alone about what happened to his daughter, and let him do his time. JMO

 

[Whisperer]

I have never seen a case with so many suspects. I guess I can throw Ocam's Razor out the window.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Yes, you are absolutely correct. Maybe some of the people didn't see that walk-through. I saw it online (no cable TV here). What you said is exactly what I remember, too. TN saying Misty wasn't a neat housekeeper and the laundry always piled on the floor. I remember the door demonstration, too.

I don't know how LE found the MH when they went to investigate. My suspicion has always been that it was cleaned up prior to LE's visit. I think that's part of the reason LE has had such a difficult time, no evidence, or very little.

Isn't it funny TN's only disparaging remark about Misty for months was on her housekeeping and that was to explain how the door stayed open so Misty could see it opened.

Misty made a big deal about the brick holding the screen door open, why didn't she mention the clothes were blocking the big door in the 911 tape?

 

[butterfly1978]

I bumped the thread talking about Ron's possable plea deal, if anyone wants to carry thier thoughts on that over there....

I find it odd that Misty was not a good house keeper per EVERYONE yet the majority of her story that night was that she was cleaning and washing blankets.

 

[dodie20]

I'm sorry but what is the reason the State would do a plea deal with rc? Traffiking is major..15 years in nothing for what he did. He wasn't caught just selling but also buying...that is big!

What's the credit line in Florida for good behavior? Out here the inmates used to go for a mental tag, then they only had to serve 50%

What WOULD be LE's reason? That makes no sense whatsoever. They have him on video tape & popping a pill, to boot. slam dunk. isn't the minimum supposed to be 25 years? how can you get 15 from that? that just sounds lazy on the prosecutor's part.

 

[Whisperer]

One thing rc is smart about and that is covering his skinny butt. If there is anyway at all for him to save himself, he will do whatever it takes. TN will assist him too.

 

[Kimster]

We have a plea deal thread and I'll move some of these posts over there tomorrow. Just letting everyone know that I am aware there are two threads with this topic going and that there are no problems. That just happens sometimes after radio/TV shows.

 

[epiphany]

Lp said someone in LE told him and they didn't want Ron bonded out.

Sorry, just did not hear LP quote LE, but perhaps he meant that - "good authority." I wouldn't know.

LP: they either failed or theres t other word that they use inconclusive, that basically is what t situation was on all of them
SMc: ...90% deception or truth <10% inconclusive
LP: there is not a single test that any of them have passed...that i know as fact "from a good authority"

LP: (re M and R poly) - there was failure or inconclusive, but neither one passed
LP: LE will never tell u u passed a poly; never

 

[Whisperer]

fftopic:

I want to let everyone know that wasn't me who called in at the beginning of the show..

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