LiLo failed drug screen over weekend

[MaryLiz]

TMZ is reporting that a second judge threw out the first judge's ruling and she will be getting on on bail!!!

http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/24/linds...n-fox-shawn-chapman-holley-probation-hearing/

 

[craftybatchy]

"Cold turkey could potentially kill her."

Where did you get this information from? What substance was she showing positive for that "cold turkey could potentially kill her?

I think you are wrong about this, by the way. But I will keep an open mind.
She was positive for cocaine and amphetamine.
I don't think withdrawal from either of these would kill anyone.

I said potentially. While I agree that the physiological aspect of cocaine addiction presents minimal risk when compared with the psychological addiction. Rapid withdrawal in the absence of appropriate supports can result in psychosis, suicidal thoughts, suicidal behavior, and so forth.
Gotta wonder if she has taken lesson from Paris Hilton ?

 

[JBean]

according to the sheriff's inmate locator her bail is 300k and her offense level is a felony. I thought the hullabaloo was that this was a misdemeanor probation violation.
Are there new charges? 300k is a really super high bail for this type of crime.Especially in LA County. Everyone walks out of jail for drug charges up there.
ETA: I looked again and it seems it is all going back to the original misdemeanor, so I am not sure what that is about.

ETA: LOL they JUST this minute changed it to a misdemeanor. maybe the sheriffs are reading here.

 

[legalmania]

I said potentially. While I agree that the physiological aspect of cocaine addiction presents minimal risk when compared with the psychological addiction. Rapid withdrawal in the absence of appropriate supports can result in psychosis, suicidal thoughts, suicidal behavior, and so forth.
Gotta wonder if she has taken lesson from Paris Hilton ?

Actually craftybatchy your right, while you do suffer from depression and mental illness you also suffer physically and cold turkey can be deadly. Read the report below. I saw a few addicts die from heart attacks after trying to go cold turkey.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...-benzos-and-opiates-withdrawal-might-kill-you

 

[legalmania]

Here is the latest. If people keep bailing her out she is never going to learn. Something has to click inside her head. She needs to get away from her mother, father and friends. She needs to surround herself with ex-addicts. Hopefully she doesn't kill herself before she gets the proper help.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20429293,00.html

 

[JBean]

she is now out on bond according to sheriff's website. Such is the life of Lindsay Lohan

 

[shana]

Saddening situation...

LA Times LINK

I know that people talk about how celebs get off easy & such; but it's not necessarily so, for this geographic area at least. Unknown offenders can and do receive the same benefits for a whole host of reasons. A Public Defender can too easily get sprung a drug-abusing deft, and the courts are far too willing to oblige. This result can put a terrible burden on the family & friends who would wish that the law would assist in getting a loved one to rehab/recovery, but that just isn't how it works.

Her lawyer did what she is paid to do. Apparently after trying alone in chambers with the judge and being denied, the appeal she filed worked in her client's favor (or so it would seem).

I wish Robert Downey, Jr, among others, would do an intervention. She might listen to him.

I hope she survives.

 

[JBean]

Saddening situation...

LA Times LINK

I know that people talk about how celebs get off easy & such; but it's not necessarily so, for this geographic area at least. Unknown offenders can and do receive the same benefits for a whole host of reasons. A Public Defender can too easily get sprung a drug-abusing deft, and the courts are far too willing to oblige. This result can put a terrible burden on the family & friends who would wish that the law would assist in getting a loved one to rehab/recovery, but that just isn't how it works.

Her lawyer did what she is paid to do. Apparently after trying alone in chambers with the judge and being denied, the appeal she filed worked in her client's favor (or so it would seem).

I wish Robert Downey, Jr, among others, would do an intervention. She might listen to him.

I hope she survives.

My friend's son was busted in LA county no less than 10 times for drugs. Each and every time he would be in for a day and then right back out. Violation of probation over and over, new charges while he on probation, it was crazy. I was amazed at how easy it was for him to keep walking right out of court. I kept thinking no wonder he keeps doing it over and over. It is not like that down here in Orange County at all.

I am still trying to understand the 300k bail. what was the original charge?

http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/bail/pdf/misd.pdf

 

[shana]

My personal experience is with Los Angeles and Santa Barbara counties.

I believe Lindsay's original citation on this matter had to do with that night of reckless driving when she chased someone (former employee?). My memory is hazy and the net is not too helpful on refining searches this night. :-o

Anyway, I've seen firsthand worst menaces who were also set free.

The courts are not going to help friends & family get a loved one/addict committed to rehab. Instead, they send the offender to jail, then the jail springs them too soon after, and often in the night due to overcrowding or whatever. (RIP Mitrice)

~jmo~

LINK

ETA to add a link to the People article which recites more about the original charge (fwiw).

 

[Elphaba]

I think Lindsay's addiction is far bigger than just needing jail and a short stint of rehab time... she should seriously think about extracting her life from the LA scene... just move away from the temptations so she can start fresh and have a fighting chance of getting over her addiction. Plenty of actors have found success without making LA their home... and she can do it too if she gets herself straightened out and back to focusing on her talents as an actress.

On a lighter note: "Jake Byrd" upstaged daddy Lohan's media statement, today. He (daddy Lohan) deserved it... he just wants media attention, even when it means trying to ride the coattails of his own daughter's drug addiction issues. I wish that man (daddy Lohan) would just stop it... people are not fools... they can see that his little media stunts are not about Lindsay, but more about him using this daughter's drug addiction issues to get attention.

 

[BuzzieCat]

Well, that was even quicker than I thought it would be. I just hope that she uses a sober driver for all her transportation needs. :innocent: California's court system is whacko, IMO. How many times are they going to keep releasing LL and people like her? Like the SCRAM bracelet has worked so well for her before. Geezaloo. Soon we will be hearing more claims of someone spilling alcohol on innocent little LL's bracelet. Again. Bah.

Okay, I guess they can do whatever they want, and she can run herself into the ground with drugs and alcohol if she wants, but I really hope someone makes sure she is not driving herself around.

 

[believe09]

This all stemmed, IIRC, from a 2007 case where she pursued a group of people at a high rate of speed in an SUV and attempted to run them off of the road. She had coke in her pocket when arrested and coke et al in her system. Both the criminal and civil cases are pending while this show plays out-the victims have offered to drop the suit if she cops to the fact that she was high and the coke was hers. The judge recently ruled, again IIRC, that she cannot plead the 5th for depositions/interoggatories associated with the civil case.

LAPD did her the courtesy of dropping her baggy in the garbage (a newbie PO) before it occurred to him it might be a controlled substance, so he fished it out which triggered a cross contamination defense.

 

[believe09]

I know someone dealing with a long time addict in their lives right now; you have to take their choices away until they are better. Sort of like Brittany Spears.

 

[sunsetbeach]

Lindsay Lohan freed on $300,000 bail

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/39341401/ns/today-entertainment/

<snip> Lohan had been a "model inmate" trying to navigate the system, Whimore said.

I knew it, I knew it! Just proves my post from yesterday. (Slap on the wrist)

 

[OneLostGrl]

I think she'll miss the drinking and partying more then the pills.

Ehh, throw her an ambian if she can't sleep. She'll fall asleep safely behind bars, unable to wander.

I am a recovering Benzo addict (Ambien was fun for awhile too) and I think the pills are probably a huge part of her "partying", without them she probably can't have fun "partying" at the clubs. It was no surprise to me to here that she was out at the clubs recently but nobody saw her drinking.

People who abuse Ambien and meds like it (hypnotics) don't take it for sleep, they take it because they discovered they can fight sleep and in turn get high off of it. Ambien is a "Nonbenzodiazepine" which means it isn't a benzo but works like a benzo. Hypnotics when abused cause hallucinations, euphoria, reduced inhibitions (including sexually), amnesia and a pretty intense body high. Ambien causes people to wander.. people are known to drive, cook, clean the house, have sex.. all while "asleep" on Ambien. I don't know if you have ever heard of Halcion (which has been outlawed in several countries) or not but it's effects and side effects are much like those of Ambien (Halcion though, is a benzo) and interestingly enough it's what Dahmer used on his victims to knock 'em out. The ADHD medicine that she also keeps going back to is IMO to counteract the sedating effects of the Ambien- gives her the enegry to do the things she has to do while still taking the hypnotic. I think the drinking is probably the least of her problems but that's just me.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Lindsay Lohan freed on $300,000 bail

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/39341401/ns/today-entertainment/

<snip> Lohan had been a "model inmate" trying to navigate the system, Whimore said.

I knew it, I knew it! Just proves my post from yesterday. (Slap on the wrist)

Ya know what? This makes me so sick! I swear to G0d, when she dies from this it will be partly their fault!

 

[tapu]

According to the LA Times article, the court decided that she should get bail because 1) she is not a danger; and 2) she is not a flight risk.

Uh, she has been arrested for driving drunk more than once = danger to self and others. She has access to money, rocky relationships with family, friends, business associates, etc., in the area, and she is no doubt familiar with foreign locations = flight risk.

How in the world would the judge respond to that? Is it really possible that I'm the only one that is pointing out these obvious facts? And me way up here in Maine, nowhere near LA at all. I must be a legal genius.

 

[tiredofthis]

Ya know what? This makes me so sick! I swear to G0d, when she dies from this it will be partly their fault!

I have a bad feeling she is headed down that road.

 

[tapu]

I am a recovering Benzo addict (Ambien was fun for awhile too) and I think the pills are probably a huge part of her "partying", without them she probably can't have fun "partying" at the clubs. It was no surprise to me to here that she was out at the clubs recently but nobody saw her drinking.

People who abuse Ambien and meds like it (hypnotics) don't take it for sleep, they take it because they discovered they can fight sleep and in turn get high off of it. Ambien is a "Nonbenzodiazepine" which means it isn't a benzo but works like a benzo. Hypnotics when abused cause hallucinations, euphoria, reduced inhibitions (including sexually), amnesia and a pretty intense body high. Ambien causes people to wander.. people are known to drive, cook, clean the house, have sex.. all while "asleep" on Ambien. I don't know if you have ever heard of Halcion (which has been outlawed in several countries) or not but it's effects and side effects are much like those of Ambien (Halcion though, is a benzo) and interestingly enough it's what Dahmer used on his victims to knock 'em out. The ADHD medicine that she also keeps going back to is IMO to counteract the sedating effects of the Ambien- gives her the enegry to do the things she has to do while still taking the hypnotic. I think the drinking is probably the least of her problems but that's just me.

Pills were my drug of choice, too. So convenient, so clean--pretty even. I could swallow them dry in H.S. classes and no one the wiser. Far better than drinking. I peg Lindsay as a pill addict, too. Alcohol, coke, pot--they're not what's gonna get her. And pills are the fastest ticket to finale by OD.

 

[JBean]

According to the LA Times article, the court decided that she should get bail because 1) she is not a danger; and 2) she is not a flight risk.

Uh, she has been arrested for driving drunk more than once = danger to self and others. She has access to money, rocky relationships with family, friends, business associates, etc., in the area, and she is no doubt familiar with foreign locations = flight risk.

How in the world would the judge respond to that? Is it really possible that I'm the only one that is pointing out these obvious facts? And me way up here in Maine, nowhere near LA at all. I must be a legal genius.

I think the issue is that bail must be made available for misdemeanor charges. They did set it very high and I cannot find anything in the LA County bail schedule to support that.