Live MSM coverage on baby Lisa 21 October 2011- including Nancy Grace

[jacy]

Thanks Kimster!! She is smart and Beautiful!! She has a baby brother now also He is beautiful also !

News of happy, healthy, beautiful children is necessary on this site. Thanks for the little beam of light.

 

[jjenny]

I agree, and one of my reasons is more of a question: Doesn't local LE patrol at night? Could a person seriously be walking around carrying a baby (dead or alive) dressed only in a diaper in the middle of the night and not risk a police car driving up beside them asking what they're doing? A man carrying around a dead baby uncovered?

:waitasec:

Even if they don't normally, after JI called in a missing baby police started looking for a missing baby. So I really doubt a guy could walk around at 4 am with an almost naked baby and police never saw anything.

 

[katydid23]

About NG asking about how much wine a baby would have to drink to go to sleep. That makes no sense to me because I doubt you could get a 10 month old to drink much wine, even with fruit juice. And if she did drink a bottle, imo, she would probably throw it up.
I don't think you could 'kill' a baby with too much wine. imoo

But I suppose you could make her sleepy and drunk if you succeeded in getting her to drink enough.

p.s.
I am surprised about how likable NG has made herself with this whole DWTS thing. It is showing a new, nicer and lighter side of her that people never saw before.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I agree, and one of my reasons is more of a question: Doesn't local LE patrol at night? Could a person seriously be walking around carrying a baby (dead or alive) dressed only in a diaper in the middle of the night and not risk a police car driving up beside them asking what they're doing? A man carrying around a dead baby uncovered?

:waitasec:

Exactly...

 

[PoppyH]

News of happy, healthy, beautiful children is necessary on this site. Thanks for the little beam of light.

Thank You Jacy, children are so precious and helpless, its just so heartbreaking when they go missing and/ or murdered specially by those entrusted by god to protect and love them, god bless all our missing little ones and baby Lise, she is so beautiful!

 

[BritsKate]

I agree, and one of my reasons is more of a question: Doesn't local LE patrol at night? Could a person seriously be walking around carrying a baby (dead or alive) dressed only in a diaper in the middle of the night and not risk a police car driving up beside them asking what they're doing? A man carrying around a dead baby uncovered?

:waitasec:

Or for that matter an abducted one? If Lisa were really abducted and this guy did it he had no way of knowing when the abduction would be reported and responded to. Why would he casually be walking up and down the street instead of getting away as far and quickly as possible? :waitasec:

 

[belimom]

I just can't see it. Someone saying "i am going to strip this dead baby and walk around at midnight (or 4 am) with her in nothing but a diaper until someone sees us to make it look like an abduction" is beyond the realms of possibility to me. The risk of someone noticing the baby is dead is to high. Someone being nosy, someone stopping their car to ask for directions etc. Same with a doll.

I am falling off the fence but I don't see this as a greatly thought out plot. The baby is the size of a watermelon right? Searchers could have passed her body a dozen times, or DB could have driven her somewhere they haven't looked. License or not, that risk I can see. At least the baby is in the car then.

I agree - which is why I don't think it was a dead baby either.

ETA: In re-reading this, I realize my statement sounds rather harsh. I'm really not taking it lightly that there may in fact be the body of a little baby somewhere in this case... )

 

[strach304]

About NG asking about how much wine a baby would have to drink to go to sleep. That makes no sense to me because I doubt you could get a 10 month old to drink much wine, even with fruit juice. And if she did drink a bottle, imo, she would probably throw it up.
I don't think you could 'kill' a baby with too much wine. imoo

But I suppose you could make her sleepy and drunk if you succeeded in getting her to drink enough.

p.s.
I am surprised about how likable NG has made herself with this whole DWTS thing. It is showing a new, nicer and lighter side of her that people never saw before.

Years ago I knew a teen mother who used to put vodka in her baby's bottle with orange juice to make her sleep. The baby drank it. She also blew shotguns of pot smoke in her face to make her sleep and thought that $hit was funny! I'm sure a baby would drink wine with juice.

 

[matou]

Early on, police had said they had checked out the report of someone carrying a baby and verified it was unrelated.

Now this is all news again. I think it's being "made" into news by DB's team.

Interesting thought. It is very interesting timing for news that directly conflicts with the news of a cadaver dog hitting on a scent in the mother's bedroom. Hmmmmmm.

 

[angeleleven]

Years ago I knew a teen mother who used to put vodka in her baby's bottle with orange juice to make her sleep. The baby drank it. She also blew shotguns of pot smoke in her face to make her sleep and thought that $hit was funny! I'm sure a baby would drink wine with juice.

I sure hope someone reported her.

 

[panthera]

Or for that matter an abducted one? If Lisa were really abducted and this guy did it he had no way of knowing when the abduction would be reported and responded to. Why would he casually be walking up and down the street instead of getting away as far and quickly as possible? :waitasec:

That is my problem with the sightings also. The person would make every effort to disguise what he was carrying, especially if it were a dead baby. As you said, he would make every effort to get out of the area as fast as possible and avoid being seen (identified), not be walking around some 3-1/2 hours after the "first sighting".

I'm not believing it.

MOO

 

[mikeysmommom]

NG

Jim Spellman: S/W obtained after cadaver dog(s) get a positive hit by mother's bed.

JS reporting Multiple witnesses (two sightings by three people) convinced they saw baby Lisa the early morning hours she vanished. 12:30am: Approx. one block away from home, a couple reports seeing man carrying baby with diaper. 4:00am: Less than 3 miles away, another man on motorcycle reports seeing her, near exit to one of the interstates. Temp. in the 40s, man carrying baby without blanket or covering.

Maybe I'm crazy but if I witnessed that I'd call the police!It was a cold night and a baby in a diaper at 4am IMO Le should have been called.:banghead:

 

[nursebeeme]

Yes, that would be odd to say the least.
I learn something from every case I follow. This particular case I have learned, that no matter what, if I see something suspicious involving a child, I am calling 911.
What if this "man" carrying a baby only in a diaper could have been a woman dressed like a man??????????????????

amen with a cherry on top.. and every time I go back to the advice given to me by friend Steve Huff that we cannot for a second put ourselves in a perps shoes.

Perps think different. So you have to abandon what 'you' would do... and what 'you think this right'... something is not right here and something has gone on to disappear this baby.. beit close family members or a stranger.. who thinks like this? who takes a baby from her crib along with three cell phones after climbing thru a crickety rickety screen.?.

something ugly is amiss. who knows who or what it is... but it is not normal.. that is for sure.. not normal for this neighborhood... not normal for pretty much the nation..

:twocents::twocents::twocents:

 

[sorrell skye]

About NG asking about how much wine a baby would have to drink to go to sleep. That makes no sense to me because I doubt you could get a 10 month old to drink much wine, even with fruit juice. And if she did drink a bottle, imo, she would probably throw it up.
I don't think you could 'kill' a baby with too much wine. imoo

But I suppose you could make her sleepy and drunk if you succeeded in getting her to drink enough.

p.s.
I am surprised about how likable NG has made herself with this whole DWTS thing. It is showing a new, nicer and lighter side of her that people never saw before.

I agree, Katy. Most wine is between 11% and 12% alcohol.

IMO, I can't see a baby willingly drinking enough undiluted wine to lead to fatal alcohol poisoning, much less drinking enough wine diluted with fruit juice to lead to fatal alcohol poisoning.

Good grief - some of the theories that are being thrown out are getting downright preposterous.

Why is it so hard to believe that someone might have just battered or shaken their defenseless baby to death in a moment of rage & then tried to cover it up with a ridiculous kidnapping story, because that person knows full well they caused their baby's death?

 

[Curious Me]

Wonder why the 'Cadaver dogs hit on Lisa's parents room' is just a crawler at the bottom of the screen and she is talking about sightings..... seems to me the Cadaver dog hit is the only Bombshell news.

I'm most interested in the cadaver dogs hitting positive in the Mom's bedroom right near the bed. Dr. Drew is mentioning it now. Hope we hear more.

 

[panthera]

Dr. Drew going to have some coverage of Lisa on his program.

Revealed today that a cadaver dog was brought to the parents' house; dog had a positive "hit" information was in the affidavit for the search warrant.

(Will be back to this case later in the show).

 

[panthera]

I'm most interested in the cadaver dogs hitting positive in the Mom's bedroom right near the bed. Dr. Drew is mentioning it now. Hope we hear more.

I trust the cadaver dogs.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

FWIW ...

Dr. Drew to cover today's findings in a little bit ....

Doing the CM Trial now ...

MOO ... :waitasec: I can't wait for CM trial and DWTS to be over ...

MOO ...

 

[AngelWings444]

I agree, Katy. Most wine is between 11% and 12% alcohol.

IMO, I can't see a baby willingly drinking enough undiluted wine to lead to fatal alcohol poisoning, much less drinking enough wine diluted with fruit juice to lead to fatal alcohol poisoning.

Good grief - some of the theories that are being thrown out are getting downright preposterous.

Why is it so hard to believe that someone might have just battered their defenseless baby to death in a moment of rage & then tried to cover it up with a ridiculous kidnapping story?

The Thanks Button wasn't enough. Thank you! I guess it's difficult for most, if not all of us, to believe a mother could be so evil.

 

[Wendy101]

Interesting thought. It is very interesting timing for news that directly conflicts with the news of a cadaver dog hitting on a scent in the mother's bedroom. Hmmmmmm.

OMG! I am just catching up... a cadaver dog hit on a scent in moms bedroom?