LIVE MSM COVERAGE on BABY LISA - 24 OCTOBER 2011

[Peliman]

Yes I can.......it was a neighbors birthday and we had steak. :great:

How many fingers am I holding up..

Hi-teh :rose:

 

[pinkfly]

I am trying so very hard to be a good girl here, it's painful actually. I feel that JT is about as full of ***** as a Christmas goose. There, that's all I dare say right now without getting a really big Time Out!

Not coming to your house for Christmas dinner......mine will be full of stuffing.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

Eye witness accounts can get skethy, especially after time passes. It's not unusual to mix up colors of clothing after some time has passed or the insertion of certain information by another witness and yes your eye can play tricks on you and what you witness. Can you tell me what you had for dinner on tuesday, two weeks ago?

Tuesday = Taco Tuesday at our local taco joint :crazy:

Now Monday, Wednesday, Thursday etc.... are a blurrrrrr!!!

 

[Karmaa]

About JT, he might want to carefully study all the video interviews of DB & JI. What he is saying now about DB being a quivering ball on the floor is not what either one of them said in the beginning. They both said they ran around screaming Lisa's name. Their screaming woke the boys who then started crying. Then, IIRC, they both ran outside and DB flagged down the Police Car.

So, NO, DB never said she was on the floor in a quivering ball. (RE: JT disputing that DB said she didn't check the yard because she was afraid of what she might find.)

Note to print interviewers: Tape the interviews so that no one can say you took the info out of context.

Why do these have to be mutually exclusive? She could have jumped up and run around the house, run out and flagged down the cops, and then collapsed into a quivering ball on the floor. (After all, she does have an anxiety disorder of some kind). My guess is that if she did that, it was after police were there and she realized that the baby was gone, in which case, LE would be able to confirm that. If they ever confirm/deny anything.

We shouldn't jump to the conclusion that something is a lie if there is a logical explanation for it.

 

[mistermissy]

Prayers Lisa is found today.

Re: Experiment last night, I'm none for the worse, no headache at all. Considering that bottle was $4 or close to it, if I drank to get smashed it would evidently take a lot and I'd not spend it for it.

madgeThank you for taking one for the team! My DH says tonight you have to do it with wine and anti-anxiety meds:crazy:

 

[JeannaT]

The black out thing for me is this:

DB never says FOR SURE that she blacked out. She's asked "could you have blacked out" and she says "its possible". HUH? :waitasec:

Either you black out or you don't. How could it be "possible". Either you remember when you finally wake up or you don't. There is no grey area with a black out. If she did, in fact, black out, then why isn't she saying - "yes, when JI came home and woke me up - I couldn't remember anything - not even how I got in bed or what time". Not a circumventing of the question by a "its possible" response.

JMHO

That's not my experience with blackouts. And sad to say, I do have experience with blackouts. You literally don't remember whether you had one - it's a blank place in your memory. The thing is, when you drink what she drank - not horribly much, IMHO, she will remember things and not remember others, and won't know what she doesn't remember.

People who drink often (she's pretty much said she does) will experience these as blank parts that unless someone points it out to her or it becomes obvious by physical evidence that she missed something, she won't know whether she had a black out.

Hopefully others who had a bit of a party past will chime in here. : (

 

[alwaysonmymind]

The video of this blob is of such poor quality I don't think it can be enhanced much. So I am frankly amazed press is calling the blob a man-how do they know the blob isn't female?

It looks like Big Foot to me..... :innocent:

And seriously 'walking from a wooded area'? It looks like someone walking alongside the road. jmo

 

[Mountain_Kat]

That's not my experience with blackouts. And sad to say, I do have experience with blackouts. You literally don't remember whether you had one - it's a blank place in your memory. The thing is, when you drink what she drank - not horribly much, IMHO, she will remember things and not remember others, and won't know what she doesn't remember.

People who drink often (she's pretty much said she does) will experience these as blank parts that unless someone points it out to her or it becomes obvious by physical evidence that she missed something, she won't know whether she had a black out.

Hopefully others who had a bit of a party past will chime in here. : (

You get flashes of things you might recall. But your memory is notoriously unreliable. Several years ago I got trashed at a Christmas party. Kept having flashes of calling my mother in law and saying awful things to her. Finally, I forced myself to break down and call my mother in law to find out if I had in fact done that. Nope, never called her. But I was pretty sure that I had. Same christmas party...Hubby told me later that I had danced with his boss. NO memory at all of that.

So, in my limited blackout experience, I'd have to say memory is just flat out unreliable.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Has anyone taken credit for finding the white blob video?

 

[mistermissy]

The first walk through video was within hours of the crime scene tape being taken down. In that video, we saw the screen in the family room, leaning against the window wall, we saw the tub and containers in the crib and no Pooh Bear, we saw no wine box on the stove. The family and now the lawyer and three news crews have been in that house in between the LE searches so we know that things that were there are gone and things that weren't there before are there now. One word: "STAGING"

ITA. I think the wine being left out is a future DT "normalizing" the box of wine drinking and "adult time" at the Bradley/Irwin household to a future jury pool.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Has anyone taken credit for finding the white blob video?

Leonard Nimoy, I think.

 

[Amster]

So....ABC is working for the defense? So sad and disheartening....how far reaching is it? Do they pay witnesses? For "exclusives"? Do people who post for the defense or ABC on the blogs get paid? DB and JI hit the jackpot. Little Lisa seems to have been forgotten in the full blitz to defend DB and trash LE.

 

[AnaTeresa]

That's not my experience with blackouts. And sad to say, I do have experience with blackouts. You literally don't remember whether you had one - it's a blank place in your memory. The thing is, when you drink what she drank - not horribly much, IMHO, she will remember things and not remember others, and won't know what she doesn't remember.

People who drink often (she's pretty much said she does) will experience these as blank parts that unless someone points it out to her or it becomes obvious by physical evidence that she missed something, she won't know whether she had a black out.

Hopefully others who had a bit of a party past will chime in here. : (

Blacking out definitely does not mean passing out. Unfortunately, when you're black out drunk, you're still up and active - you just don't remember it the next day. You may get bits and pieces of memory back, but there are gaps gone. You have no idea what you did, but you weren't passed out.

There's a lot of conflating of blacked out with passed out, but those are two separate things, at least from my experience and that of my friends. And yes, we have all grown up since then!

 

[JeannaT]

So....ABC is working for the defense? So sad and disheartening....how far reaching is it? Do they pay witnesses? For "exclusives"? Do people who post for the defense or ABC on the blogs get paid? DB and JI hit the jackpot. Little Lisa seems to have been forgotten in the full blitz to defend DB and trash LE.

It doesn't appear to me that they're working for the defense or prosecution. They're investigating. I'm not sure how asking for video from businesses in the area is working for the defense - and IMHO LE should have been on that from day 1. It's a little concerning that a TV station got coverage before LE asked for it - after weeks of that opportunity.

Thank goodness someone is turning over every stone.

 

[frankie069]

The black out thing for me is this:

DB never says FOR SURE that she blacked out. She's asked "could you have blacked out" and she says "its possible". HUH? :waitasec:

Either you black out or you don't. How could it be "possible". Either you remember when you finally wake up or you don't. There is no grey area with a black out. If she did, in fact, black out, then why isn't she saying - "yes, when JI came home and woke me up - I couldn't remember anything - not even how I got in bed or what time". Not a circumventing of the question by a "its possible" response.

JMHO

And to take this a little further, I myself have blacked out on more than one occasion from drinking and I can tell you with 100% certainty, if you try and wake me up a couple of hours later you either arent going to be able to or I am going to be still extremely drunk. Usually after a blackout the next morning I wake up feeling drunk still. IMHO she was not drunk nor did she black out. This whole thing smells of a set up on DB AND JI's part.. No way they cannot both be involved in this. He knows something.

 

[ClueMeIn]

After drinking 5, 12 oz glasses of wine, one tends to blackout...I am not saying DB drank that much...just my own personal joke. LOL!

However, you know that there are empty spaces in your evening. Like if you go to change your clothes, and remember being in the bedroom, but don't remember walking in the bedroom...that is a blackout. You do know that there are pieces missing, so you do know that you blacked out.

Now if she blacked out, after passing out, she may just think she was sleeping.

 

[Amster]

It doesn't appear to me that they're working for the defense or prosecution. They're investigating. I'm not sure how asking for video from businesses in the area is working for the defense - and IMHO LE should have been on that from day 1. It's a little concerning that a TV station got coverage before LE asked for it - after weeks of that opportunity.

Thank goodness someone is turning over every stone.

LE never had this tape? Never saw it before? I missed that part.

 

[JeannaT]

LE never had this tape? Never saw it before? I missed that part.

Exclusively obtained from the business for their news station, is how it was presented.

No, I don't think LE saw this video before it was discovered by the business owner and the reporter doing good investigative journalism. There was a line in there somewhere (I don't want to have to go back and find it, so I'll just say IMHO) that the video has now been turned over to LE.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

So....ABC is working for the defense? So sad and disheartening....how far reaching is it? Do they pay witnesses? For "exclusives"? Do people who post for the defense or ABC on the blogs get paid? DB and JI hit the jackpot. Little Lisa seems to have been forgotten in the full blitz to defend DB and trash LE.

And NBC was allowed access to the home last night after the prayer vigil.....
Joe on NBC Today this morning also......

IMO, they are milking this for all they can.

 

[Velouria]

Hah, should have been more clear, I'm speaking about the dogs hitting on blood, some will and some wont, depending on their training. It apparently depends on what LE is looking for.

A dog that hits on blood will also hit on any band-aid, tampon, smear or test tube of blood, imagine searching a city dump with a cadaver dog that hits on blood. Most are trained not to and a hit will generally be backed up by other dogs. I will always refer to Oriah and sarx though. It's all in the training.

I know nothing of or if dogs hit on baby carp.

Dogs only hit on baby pee or poop in the Anthonys' backyard, doncha know. :innocent: