LIVE MSM COVERAGE on BABY LISA - 24 OCTOBER 2011

[Just K]

About JT, he might want to carefully study all the video interviews of DB & JI. What he is saying now about DB being a quivering ball on the floor is not what either one of them said in the beginning. They both said they ran around screaming Lisa's name. Their screaming woke the boys who then started crying. Then, IIRC, they both ran outside and DB flagged down the Police Car.

So, NO, DB never said she was on the floor in a quivering ball. (RE: JT disputing that DB said she didn't check the yard because she was afraid of what she might find.)

Note to print interviewers: Tape the interviews so that no one can say you took the info out of context.

 

[JeannaT]

Does anyone know that the neighbor claiming to see a man walking around with a baby, wasn't the same neighbor that was over the house that night? Who is the neighbor that was over drinking with Deborah that night?

sorry if i missed it

I don't know if you ever got an answer, but no, they're two different women. MSM has slipped up and reported both their names, and they aren't the same.

 

[scmom]

I don't think she was drunk when she cooked dinner, nor when the kitchen was cleaned. My point was really more toward trying to define the timeline. So she went to the store, bought items, came home and cooked dinner, cleaned the kitchen, then went outside on the stoop, and started, or continued, drinking with the neighbor. The last I heard, Debs last saw Lisa at "6:40". So I guess she "got drunk and maybe blacked out" sometime between 6:40 pm and 10:30 pm. She must have been really sucking it down.

 

[Sigh Sister]

I thought the same thing. My hairdresser is also my friend and I know would do my hair for me to help me feel better. I don't find this to be a problem. She wasn't heavily made up and wasn't sporting new clothes. :seeya:

It's my mother's answer to every crisis. And my grandmother, who was having chest pain, actually stopped to have her hair done while on the way to the hospital! She actually drove herself and it turned out she did in fact have a heart attack! :seeya:

 

[Patty G]

Here is a picture of the kitchen counter. There is a microwave on one end, and what appears to be a electric can opener under the cabinet or a radio, so there must be an outlet nearby to charge the cellphones, IF the cellphones were charging at that time.

 

[Sigh Sister]

I don't think she was drunk when she cooked dinner, nor when the kitchen was cleaned. My point was really more toward trying to define the timeline. So she went to the store, bought items, came home and cooked dinner, cleaned the kitchen, then went outside on the stoop, and started, or continued, drinking with the neighbor. The last I heard, Debs last saw Lisa at "6:40". So I guess she "got drunk and maybe blacked out" sometime between 6:40 pm and 10:30 pm. She must have been really sucking it down.

I'm starting to think it was a convenient blackout because she remembers going into the boys room before she went to bed to see if they wanted to sleep with her. But she can't remember checking on a sick baby?? I've been going back and forth between SODDI and the fence, but the cadaver dog hit and the supposed blackout are REALLY bothering me.

 

[JeannaT]

I don't think she was drunk when she cooked dinner, nor when the kitchen was cleaned. My point was really more toward trying to define the timeline. So she went to the store, bought items, came home and cooked dinner, cleaned the kitchen, then went outside on the stoop, and started, or continued, drinking with the neighbor. The last I heard, Debs last saw Lisa at "6:40". So I guess she "got drunk and maybe blacked out" sometime between 6:40 pm and 10:30 pm. She must have been really sucking it down.

I have a little question about the timeline, too. I've read she began cooking dinner for her sons and the neighbor at around 5:30, but people have assumed that meant the neighbor was there at that time. I'm not sure we can tell when the neighbor arrived - it might have been after 6:40, maybe 5:30, I don't know.

She also has said recently that she put Lisa down at 6:40 and then checked on her briefly after that, some have speculated around 7 p.m. to lay her back down from a standing position in the crib.

 

[MamaK]

I don't think she was drunk when she cooked dinner, nor when the kitchen was cleaned. My point was really more toward trying to define the timeline. So she went to the store, bought items, came home and cooked dinner, cleaned the kitchen, then went outside on the stoop, and started, or continued, drinking with the neighbor. The last I heard, Debs last saw Lisa at "6:40". So I guess she "got drunk and maybe blacked out" sometime between 6:40 pm and 10:30 pm. She must have been really sucking it down.

I think we have to take the degree of how drunk she was with a grain of salt. In the MK interview she said that it was a possiblity that she blacked out. Also, regarding the change in the timeline of whether she checked on baby Lisa at 10:30pm. I was left with the impression that she thought that she had checked on Lisa but she couldn't be sure because she had been drinking. If she was completely blacked out hammered that night, she would have still been drunk when the cops were called at 0400. Certainly, LE could have given her a breathalizer at that point. If LE didn't, then that is just strange. :waitasec:

 

[nursebeeme]

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20539461,00.html

 

[JeannaT]

I'm starting to think it was a convenient blackout because she remembers going into the boys room before she went to bed to see if they wanted to sleep with her. But she can't remember checking on a sick baby?? I've been going back and forth between SODDI and the fence, but the cadaver dog hit and the supposed blackout are REALLY bothering me.

I'm confused about why posters think she would lie about blacking out. To me, that's pretty incriminating, and for her to admit it takes a little chink out of her story. It puts into question her perceptions that evening, and opens the possibility that she observed and forgot what happened to L.

I don't understand why the posters who are the most sure she is guilty believe that she is lying that she blacked out to make herself appear innocent. It does just the opposite - IMHO - it ads a dimension of unreliability to her story.

 

[nursebeeme]

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/2...an-carrying-baby-on-night-irwin-went-missing/

just on foxnews insider

 

[JeannaT]

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/2...an-carrying-baby-on-night-irwin-went-missing/

just on foxnews insider

Is this new video? Or yesterday's video being presented as new?

BTW, they've got the "pants" wrong - it was a white shirt, not white pants the witnesses reported. The headline is certainly riveting - you can't make out a "baby" in yesterday's news, but if there IS video of a man walking around in the wee hours with a baby in the area, that's extremely significant. IMHO.

 

[Peliman]

I'm pretty sure it shouldn't hit on feces at all. Decomp or not. If you go to the QA thread it is approached. They can hit on blood that came from a living being though.

Depends on their training though, some will and some won't depending on the dogs training.

 

[Just K]

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne.../nbc-get-its-first-look-inside-the-irwin-home

Mountain Kat, you were right there was an aluminum bat near the dresser and there are TWO Shotguns.

 

[Nefriahaia]

Is this new video? Or yesterday's video being presented as new?

BTW, they've got the "pants" wrong - it was a white shirt, not white pants the witnesses reported. The headline is certainly riveting - you can't make out a "baby" in yesterday's news, but if there IS video of a man walking around in the wee hours with a baby in the area, that's extremely significant. IMHO.

Maybe it wasn't even a baby he was carrying.

 

[josie1986]

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/2...an-carrying-baby-on-night-irwin-went-missing/

just on foxnews insider

as far as i was aware i thought the witnesses had seen a man wearing a white shirt...not white pants? actually i had only read the guy on the motorcycle said it was a guy in a white shirt....is my mind playing tricks on me :crazy:

 

[Sigh Sister]

I'm confused about why posters think she would lie about blacking out. To me, that's pretty incriminating, and for her to admit it takes a little chink out of her story. It puts into question her perceptions that evening, and opens the possibility that she observed and forgot what happened to L.

I don't understand why the posters who are the most sure she is guilty believe that she is lying that she blacked out to make herself appear innocent. It does just the opposite - IMHO - it ads a dimension of unreliability to her story.

Maybe because she's feeling guilty about something that happened and she can't face it. And I'm not one of the posters who are sure that she's guilty.

 

[nursebeeme]

the reporter mis reported it would seem.. as he was saying "white pants" they show the video clip of a white shirt (lol)

 

[JeannaT]

Depends on their training though, some will and some won't depending on the dogs training.

This is GROSS, but babies can get a rotavirus that makes their feces smell like death. I guess adults can get it too, but it's memorable to me because my babies all had bouts with stomach viruses, and the doc would actually ask, does the stool smell like a dead animal. And it did, too.

Just throwing that out there.

 

[Just K]

In this morning Today Show, with Peter Alexander, we did see a black & white cat roaming about. I wonder if the cat is a prop, too. Have any neighbors ever seen that cat before?