local media's first home tour and presser 10/27/11 **cancelled**

  • #281
I don't doubt for a moment that the family is under a lot of stress and they may not be sleeping well or eating well and everyone who is not involved is besides themselves with worry and grief.

But the strange thing is, I'm sure the attorneys knew all that perfectly well yesterday when they announced this press conference and tour and daily press releases and then decided next morning that it would be a good idea to cancel. They didn't just suddenly become stressed overnight. There is something else behind this.
 
  • #282
DB and JI are not running, nor are they hiding from LE. They are still in KC. They have not been arrested,and LE knows exactly where they are living and they are free to follow the advice of their attorneys.

Whether anyone believes Lisa's parents are guilty or not, an effort should still be made to be accurate....IMHO.


This family is under tremendous stress. I'm sure no one is sleeping well, or able to eat much. The parents are asked by LE not to search themselves, but I'm sure they are not at home having a party. They have other family members who more than likely are not involved, even if DB and JI are, and those people are grieving and scared. Posters should at least think of them, because they are victims as well.
LE told them not to search, but LE never told them they could not help their baby in appropriate ways. Lisa is a helpless infant - I don't give a damn how scared two adults are. I care about LISA!

My heart is about bled dry for these people. They've done jack all to help Lisa. They aren't out putting up flyers, or on TV trying to humanize Lisa, making it about her. They aren't impressed with LE's efforts but can't even be bothered to contact a missing person's group and learn how to advocate for their helpless infant who needs them now more than ever.

If I thought LE was failing my baby, by God I'd find me someone who would not. I would be out looking for my baby, come hell or high water. If LE wanted to stop me, they'd have to arrest me.

I would be terrified for my baby, so terrified in fact that I could not sit on my butt and blather about being too exhausted.

IMO
 
  • #283
Fully cooperating parents, willing to do whatever it takes to help find their daughter, which includes enduring possible LE tough talk, who use the media to focus on their daughter, have a consistent time line and prefer to stay sober when they are the sole care taker the night their daughter disappears, might be considered victims.

But ultimately, there is only one victim. And she's not complaining about LE, exhaustion nor choosing "me time"

She's saying nothing because she can't. And those who can speak up for her and saw her last, won't.

Anyway, this latest tour cancellation is just another thing on a growing list of oddities.
There is no excuse for claiming exhaustion.

I hope LE catches a break soon. Regardless of "whodunit" Lisa deserves to be found and this circus needs to end.

All my opinion :twocents:
 
  • #284
DB and JI are not running, nor are they hiding from LE. They are still in KC. They have not been arrested,and LE knows exactly where they are living and they are free to follow the advice of their attorneys.

Whether anyone believes Lisa's parents are guilty or not, an effort should still be made to be accurate....IMHO.
This family is under tremendous stress. I'm sure no one is sleeping well, or able to eat much. The parents are asked by LE not to search themselves, but I'm sure they are not at home having a party. They have other family members who more than likely are not involved, even if DB and JI are, and those people are grieving and scared. Posters should at least think of them, because they are victims as well.

I think for accuracy's sake, the parents should start being a little bit more accurate as to when is the last time they saw that precious baby. And, I'm sure they're scared, I would be too if my daughter went missing on my watch while I was passed out drunk.
 
  • #285
i don't doubt for a moment that the family is under a lot of stress and they may not be sleeping well or eating well and everyone who is not involved is besides themselves with worry and grief.

But the strange thing is, i'm sure the attorneys knew all that perfectly well yesterday when they announced this press conference and tour and daily press releases and then decided next morning that it would be a good idea to cancel. They didn't just suddenly become stressed overnight. There is something else behind this.

thank you !!!!!
 
  • #286
This!
That last case..you know the one, where the "mother" killed her child, stalled the investigation, mislead, lied, circled wagons and walked away/got off scott frickin free...has become, a sort of "how to" if you will.
If you tweek it perhaps.... you too, can do something to your child....pull the same crap.. and get the same result. It's so disgusting.
imo

I agree. It's like a get rich quick scheme - "Kill your child and get Rich and Famous". Pretty soon we'll be seeing Baez and others DTs having infomercials. :furious:
 
  • #287
I think for accuracy's sake, the parents should start being a little bit more accurate as to when is the last time they saw that precious baby. And, I'm sure they're scared, I would be too if my daughter went missing on my watch while I was passed out drunk.

I agree with you there. If she's truly innocent, perhaps she's going through an incredible amount of guilt. Perhaps she's inconsolable.
 
  • #288
THe one I don't understand is Jeremy.... He says he wasn't there, the LE says he was ON video proving he was at work, ....

Onthe hother hand, he has his girlfriend saying she was drunk, changin her timeline, pulling hissy fits wanting new detectives that will accept a kidnapping theory, ect ect...

We have the LE telling JI that a CADAVER dog hit in HIS bedroom! THe one that he shares with his girlfriend who sleeps IN that bed.... who even admits to sleeping in that bed THAT night......

WTH is wrong with him? He is her father!! I just don't get it.....
What about the Irwin family - seems like they support Debrah also....WHY????
 
  • #289
I think there's another level to their exhaustion today-- trying to remember exactly what they said 23 days ago! They know darn well LE is looking for inconsistencies-- and they also know they'll be some. Same goes for the little boys' interviews.

Meanwhile, I believe they know Lisa is not coming back, hence the lack of urgency and the grieving statement. They are keeping themselves out of jail and the remaining children out of the hands of their exes. moo
 
  • #290
Thanks, Frankie. I'm on the same page as you and your words just saved my mouse from flying across the room. HOW MANY BREAKS DO THEY NEED? And how do you take a rest from doing nothing? :furious:

To be fair...we aren't privy to what Lisa's parents are doing. One of them could be innocent, and grieving, and maybe just not able to face it today. FWIW both of them could be innocent, and unable to face the media today. There are a lot of assumptions being made by posters here that may be based on misinformation.

It could be something the lawyer said just to try to gracefully get out of the tour, but in reality her statement has nothing to do with the real reason for canceling....and I'd bet that's what really happened.

IMHO.
 
  • #291
To be fair...we aren't privy to what Lisa's parents are doing. One of them could be innocent, and grieving, and maybe just not able to face it today. FWIW both of them could be innocent, and unable to face the media today. There are a lot of assumptions being made by posters here that may be based on misinformation.

It could be something the lawyer said just to try to gracefully get out of the tour, but in reality her statement has nothing to do with the real reason for canceling....and I'd bet that's what really happened.

IMHO.

Was there something that indicated that the parents had been expected to participate?
 
  • #292
THe one I don't understand is Jeremy.... He says he wasn't there, the LE says he was ON video proving he was at work, ....

Onthe hother hand, he has his girlfriend saying she was drunk, changin her timeline, pulling hissy fits wanting new detectives that will accept a kidnapping theory, ect ect...

We have the LE telling JI that a CADAVER dog hit in HIS bedroom! THe one that he shares with his girlfriend who sleeps IN that bed.... who even admits to sleeping in that bed THAT night......

WTH is wrong with him? He is her father!! I just don't get it.....
What about the Irwin family - seems like they support Debrah also....WHY????

Maybe they, here it comes, actually believe her? Maybe he actually believes her? He knows her better than you do. He knows more details than you do.
 
  • #293
To be fair...we aren't privy to what Lisa's parents are doing. One of them could be innocent, and grieving, and maybe just not able to face it today. FWIW both of them could be innocent, and unable to face the media today. There are a lot of assumptions being made by posters here that may be based on misinformation.

It could be something the lawyer said just to try to gracefully get out of the tour, but in reality her statement has nothing to do with the real reason for canceling....and I'd bet that's what really happened.

IMHO.

BBM. You are absolutely correct. However, we ARE
privy to what they are not doing. Actions, or lack thereof, speak volumes to me. MOO.
 
  • #294
To be fair...we aren't privy to what Lisa's parents are doing. One of them could be innocent, and grieving, and maybe just not able to face it today. FWIW both of them could be innocent, and unable to face the media today. There are a lot of assumptions being made by posters here that may be based on misinformation.

It could be something the lawyer said just to try to gracefully get out of the tour, but in reality her statement has nothing to do with the real reason for canceling....and I'd bet that's what really happened.

IMHO.

Maybe the deal they had with the national media won't allow them to have this tour of the house?
 
  • #295
I think for accuracy's sake, the parents should start being a little bit more accurate as to when is the last time they saw that precious baby. And, I'm sure they're scared, I would be too if my daughter went missing on my watch while I was passed out drunk.


We don't have all the fact of this case, and the parents are not required to give accurate facts to posters on a message board.We have no way of knowing which things are true, and which things are not true As in any case, sometimes the media initially publishes things that are wrong, and sometimes people change small details as they go along. Since DB was probably hung over the first day, it's possible she did get things wrong. And she may have only been trying to hide her drinking, and not anything more. At this point, DB looks like she could be involved, but it's not a sure thing yet.

DB may be guilty of something. JI may be guilty as well. But all the jumping on them without any real information, all the rumors being restated as facts, and all the opinions and diagnoses being posted as fact is a little disturbing.
 
  • #296
To be fair...we aren't privy to what Lisa's parents are doing. One of them could be innocent, and grieving, and maybe just not able to face it today. FWIW both of them could be innocent, and unable to face the media today. There are a lot of assumptions being made by posters here that may be based on misinformation.

It could be something the lawyer said just to try to gracefully get out of the tour, but in reality her statement has nothing to do with the real reason for canceling....and I'd bet that's what really happened.

IMHO.
Sure we are.

They're sitting around exhausted and grieving. They aren't speaking out on Lisa's behalf, trying to reason with the abductor, and they are not pounding the streets with flyers.

Action speaks louder than words, or in this case, inaction.

My God, and I never thought I'd utter these words, but Casey Anthony did more to "help" find Caylee via flyers and working the command center, and talked on and on with LE right before her arrest.

IMO

Excuse me while I go vomit now.
 
  • #297
To be fair...we aren't privy to what Lisa's parents are doing. One of them could be innocent, and grieving, and maybe just not able to face it today. FWIW both of them could be innocent, and unable to face the media today. There are a lot of assumptions being made by posters here that may be based on misinformation.

It could be something the lawyer said just to try to gracefully get out of the tour, but in reality her statement has nothing to do with the real reason for canceling....and I'd bet that's what really happened.

IMHO.

You also are making assumptions that may be based on misinformation.

We are privy to what Lisa's parents are NOT doing. They are not sitting down individually with detectives today to answer questions. That's fact, not misinformation as is the fact they cancelled. Seems to be a pattern of evasiveness on their part and yes, I am going to use their actions to make an assumption or two or three. I think the reason the lawyer cancelled the presser is because she knows she can not represent both JI and DB during LE interviews.

JMO
 
  • #298
BBM. You are absolutely correct. However, we ARE
privy to what they are not doing. Actions, or lack thereof, speak volumes to me. MOO.

If you don't know what they are doing....you can't be sure of what they are not doing either. We, as posters on a message board, have no idea what's going on behind the scenes.
 
  • #299
I don't doubt for a moment that the family is under a lot of stress and they may not be sleeping well or eating well and everyone who is not involved is besides themselves with worry and grief.

But the strange thing is, I'm sure the attorneys knew all that perfectly well yesterday when they announced this press conference and tour and daily press releases and then decided next morning that it would be a good idea to cancel. They didn't just suddenly become stressed overnight. There is something else behind this.

:twocents: FWIW, I think that DB is getting really stressed and nervous thinking about what the boys may say when they are interviewed. She most likely knows that they know something about what happened to Lisa. These boys are old enough to be able to just talk and talk and talk.
 
  • #300
For those who say why can't they do more, I'd be up there 24/7, I'd be in front of the cameras right now, etc., . . . people have actually DIED from this kind of grief and stress. They've actually dropped dead in situations like this.

So it's not like they're a bit winded, could use a long weekend and a soak in a tub, it's likely they are at risk for a heart attack, a TIA, or a seizure from this stress.
 

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