local media's first home tour and presser 10/27/11 **cancelled**

[Amster]

DB and JI are NOT some "young", naive couple!! :boohoo:

No matter how many times Cyndy S. says it and others repeat it. They have both been around the block, before, and both have a child with a previous partner....which is exactly why the exhausted excuse was pulled out of a hat, IMO. Those 2 little boys are being exhaustively coached about what they are expected to say, tomorrow.

 

[JeannaT]

Not even to Lisa being abducted! It's so strange, they're just so lackadaisical about it all. I keep hearing how they must be tired, scared and panicked, but I'm not picking up on that from them at all.

It feels like the time my uncle's chickens ran away to the farm down the road, and my uncle just kind of shrugged and kept eating his lunch.

IMO

You and I just see this differently.

Se la vie.

 

[Turnadot]

You and I just see this differently.

Se la vie.

Fair enough.

LOL, are you feeling as dirty as I am from typing Casey's name so much?

I need shower.

 

[ClueMeIn]

When someone's child is lost, it hurts every fiber of their being. There is no dismissing the fear that parent feels. I don't see fear, for their daughter, at all.

Do they have fear smelling dogs?

It is c'est la vie!

 

[JeannaT]

Fair enough.

LOL, are you feeling as dirty as I am from typing Casey's name so much?

I need shower.

Haha. You know what, I stopped following that case. I just couldn't stand her at all, it gave me the willies to listen to her obvious lies and wonder where her baby ended up.

 

[BritsKate]

Yes, I get that.

What I'm saying is, guilty people seem to scream the loudest that they're innocent, when innocent people often just stand there and look bewildered. So Casey was screaming in every way she knew how that she was innocent but in fact she's a liar and she was guilty as sin. Compared to the Irwins who many believe aren't doing enough to proclaim their innocence and find their missing daughter.

Don't mean to go down a rabbit hole here. I just think Casey's reaction was pretty typical of a guilty person, and the Irwins is pretty typical of the way innocent people behave when LE appears to put the spotlight of guilt on them. They don't react much.

But Susan Smith and Darlie Routier reacted much the same as DB has - seeking out media and in (moo "controlled") hysterics during interviews. To me, it's kind of like trying to compare why criminal A flees while criminal B chooses suicide by cop.

And as far as Casey is concerned - she's more like Diane Downs than any other parent guilty of filicide which I believe explains how she could be brazen enough to 'help' search. We are talkin' a mess of personality disorders there! JMHO

 

[aks9847]

I've seen this question about why JI would "stand by" DB amidst the cadaver dog, changing story, etc and thought I would throw something out there. Assuming for the sake of argument that she did something, and he is in the dark, one reason he may be staying by her is that he's not on Websleuths hearing about how damning that really is. IOW- the rich, sophisticated, big shot lawyer is willing to go on camera and say it could be toe nails. He may be only hearing the spun side of the account, and this could be why LE want to get him alone and without HER counsel there. IMO *IF* she did this, and IF he doesn't know- he will break once something damning beyond spinning comes to play.

disclaimer: this is not my theory. I don't have a theory, I'm in wait mode. I'm just a Devil's Advocate type and like thinking about what could explain X, Y, or Z behavior or action.

Thinking outside the box--I dig it!! Totally respectable, imho.

 

[Sigh Sister]

I agree. If everyone saw things the same way, there would be no point in discussion.

I don't know if there's any correlation between how we view this case and political affiliations. Interesting thought. Imo, probably more about perceptions of what the known facts mean + personal experiences, more than politics. Who knows though?

You're probably right. Just a thought I had.:seeya:

 

[GoodGurl]

Yes, thank you! That!

They just seem so lackadaisical about their missing infant.

IMO

(my first 'quote', hope I'm doing this correctly...)

YES! Exactly! I suppose none of us know how we'd react unless we've actually been there...and it was 4 a.m., not 4 in the afternoon, which might change reactions. BUT, my first instinct would have been to be banging on neighbors doors waking them up to help me search the entire neighborhood looking for a person, or an unusual car. I had half the neighborhood out looking for my indoor cat one eveing. I dunno. JMO, MOO of course.

 

[JeannaT]

When someone's child is lost, it hurts every fiber of their being. There is no dismissing the fear that parent feels. I don't see fear, for their daughter, at all.

Do they have fear smelling dogs?

It is c'est la vie!

I actually knew that, I kept looking at it and looking at it but was too lazy to google it. I kept thinking that didn't look right. ;D

 

[Chris_Texas]

How about pounding the streets most days with flyers, or contacting a missing children's foundation for help in educating the public in looking for a live Lisa. Humanize Lisa to the public, set up a center and offer buttons with Lisa's face, and here, have a flyer - have thirty, pass them around, please.

Can she do any that at least?

I'm all out of give a crap for DB and I've run out of excuses for why she isn't advocating for her helpless infant.

IMO

In her defense, it's hard to do all that stuff when you are a reality TV star, so cut her a little slack. :innocent:

 

[Donjeta]

I think we may have other people behind some of Casey Anthony's activities. Baez and her parents were active in promoting the kidnapping angle and since her explanation of the 31 days was that she was searching in her own way she had to keep it up.

Not sure what the extended family of these parents is like and if there are people who could or would organize missing children activities.

 

[BritsKate]

(my first 'quote', hope I'm doing this correctly...)

YES! Exactly! I suppose none of us know how we'd react unless we've actually been there...and it was 4 a.m., not 4 in the afternoon, which might change reactions. BUT, my first instinct would have been to be banging on neighbors doors waking them up to help me search the entire neighborhood looking for a person, or an unusual car. I had half the neighborhood out looking for my indoor cat one eveing. I dunno. JMO, MOO of course.

BBM

JMHO but I think it totally reasonable to draw some conclusions based upon collective experience, kwim? We can all say but we haven't been there and that may well be true but many of us are mothers who have faced adversity, tragedy, and crises and can draw comparisons based on that experience and wisdom.

 

[Chris_Texas]

Re-read my post. I think you misunderstood my point.
I was talking about in the early days. DB may not have wanted LE to know she had been drinking excessively. That fact did not come out until several days had passed. We don't know when LE discovered it, or when she told them. All I said was that it could have been the reason for the later timeline revisions.

I was not talking about the drinking itself not being a fact.

Right! Definately no reason for her to be completely honest about her adult time, or the last time she theoretically saw her child, when there was the potential for a little embarassment. :floorlaugh:

Assuming, that is, she had really been drinking at all -- no reason to actually believe her, right?

 

[uvamerica]

I don't believe the whole family, their friends, and the attorneys grew too exhausted to talk to the press overnight. I don't believe Ms. Short's explanation for the cancellation, just one day after promoting it, is credible. IF she had planned to have both of the parents at today's conference, she could have scaled it back to one. She could have had other family members participate. She could have done it herself, with photos of Lisa. IIRC, she didn't announce who was going to appear in advance; there was no previous commitment or any reason a change couldn't be explained. She cancelled instead. It looks bad and Ms. Short is not a stupid woman, she knows it looks bad. Something major caused the cancellation, imo.

I think it's interesting how differently we see people, fascinating to me. I don't see Debbi Bradley as naive in any way, shape or form. I would never describe her that way from what we've seen of her in her interviews. I respect that many others have commented on their opinion that she is, so I keep looking for it. I see just the opposite, go figure. Diversity is good.:rocker:

Also, imo, it does not take a seasoned criminal or "mastermind" to get away with a crime for a long period of time, or even forever. It takes the willingness to lie, omit, and destroy evidence. Luck helps too. If it's murder, hiding the body in a place that is difficult to find and not leaving a trail is a big plus. Imo, none of this a mastermind makes, especially if the person responsible is suspected by LE early on. You don't have to be a mastermind to be devious. I could cite countless examples of criminals that got away with horrendous crimes for a long time (some suspected early on, others not), many of them just plain ignorant, but won't derail the thread. Point is, doesn't take a mastermind to make a helpless 10 month old disappear, imo.

Still hoping that the boys' interview for tomorrow is not cancelled and that we get another "press release" confirming it's a go, if anyone has the strength to release one.
:seeya:

:rocker: :goodpost:

 

[Turnadot]

I think we may have other people behind some of Casey Anthony's activities. Baez and her parents were active in promoting the kidnapping angle and since her explanation of the 31 days was that she was searching in her own way she had to keep it up.

Not sure what the extended family of these parents is like and if there are people who could or would organize missing children activities.

A missing children foundation would help for free if DB and JI asked for it. some are organized by victims of the missing, and are very compassionate and helpful to others newly in that horrific situation.

IMO

 

[Mysti88c]

I think most of us have lost a child for a moment or two, or lost a pet and we do know what our first reaction would be. I lost my 2-year-old at a park one time and I was insanely searching, screaming his name, making a huge scene. I RAN full bolt for the nearest police station, but luckily ran past a Coke machine that he was standing in front of.
I can't say how I would have reacted if he has been missing for four weeks, but I think most of us believe that if we saw an empty crib, we would have woke the whole neighborhood in those first few minutes.

 

[Donjeta]

A missing children foundation would help for free if DB and JI asked for it. some are organized by victims of the missing, and are very compassionate and helpful to others newly in that horrific situation.

IMO

I agree but if parents are lackadaisical or lack the energy a missing children's organization probably wouldn't nag the parents into going through the moves for show like a grandmother like Cindy Anthony might.

 

[Turnadot]

I'm trying to imagine myself doing nothing, even if LE told me point blank not to search. I can't even fathom not passing out flyers everyday and all day to anyone and everyone, and asking a missing children foundation to help me. I'd be on local TV as much as possible, spreading the word and trying to guilt someone who might know something, to come forward. It would be my mission to keep my son's name in people's minds.

I would respect LE not wanting me joining their searches, but I couldn't just do nothing.

I'm amazed that *to do nothing* is the choice DB and JI have made. Well, not nothing, DB does make media rounds to talk about herself.

IMO

 

[Turnadot]

I agree but if parents are lackadaisical or lack the energy a missing children's organization probably wouldn't nag the parents into going through the moves for show like a grandmother like Cindy Anthony might.

Oh I see what you mean now.