long weekend break: discuss the latest here #113

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  • #261
:gthanks:
David Lohr!!!
:blowkiss:
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Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE_Ue5rF8QM

Wow. Great share!

Dear Nancy Grace,
I'm not sure what she's doing, but JA is not "fluffing her hair for her mug shot." I will never waste my time watching your bogus tv show again.
No thank you,
Mollyf

Dear David Lohr,
Your YouTubes on this trial are the best. From now on, I will be a more patient grasshopper and wait for your videos. Thank you for saving me precious hours of commercial-free and nonsense-free viewing time.
Thanks again,
Mollyf
 
  • #262
The fact that she talks and talks is incredibly irritating, I can't imagine anyone being able to stand her friendship for long. The entire conversation is constant self justification, lots of put downs for other people, she rarely mentions a girl without getting a little dig in to go with it. The story Jodi was told for needing to move out was hilarious, sounds to me like her flatmate and boyfriend came up with a genius solution for getting her out of the house and Jodi bought it. Would love to hear from that flatmate.
 
  • #263
Don't know if anyone saw this... but it gave me the shivers watchin'

[video=youtube;_dya38y6c9Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dya38y6c9Y&playnext=1&list=PLYe2dWgF7z52WtA2M0YXQksDII13sL5ZN&feature=results_main[/video]
 
  • #264
IIRC the only thing that was mentioned was a "remote". JM asked DB why JA had came back to his house after she had left and gone to Salinas (?). She had accidently taken the remote with her. We still don't know exactly what the "remote" is to yet. Some here have assumed it is for the stolen DVR or DVD from "Paw" "Paws" house. Can't wait to hear about this and those magazines!

Ah, you're right. Sorry, brain wasn't engaged :)
 
  • #265

this explains the whole hughes thing, right here. she talked to sky about TA. sky told her she didn't want her (JA) to become another deanna. she said deanna spent 6 years with TA and he never committed to her. then they wrote him that email. this is what that whole deal's about.

so this is the 'abuse' ALV is referring to, which figures, since normal human behavior---especially MEN'S normal behavior----qualifies as 'abuse' in her book.
 
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My understanding is that she contacted the bishop IN ARIZONA after she had moved to Yreka and after Travis was murdered, for the purpose of finding out what he knew.

She would never have gone to the bishop and confessed while Travis was still alive because her bishop would then have promptly contacted Travis' bishop and Travis would be called in.

The fact that Travis went to his bishop and confessed after JA moved back to Yreka means that he 1)promised not to see her again, and 2) was put on probation (possibly disfellowshipped which means can't receive communion or bless people)...but he wasn't excommunicated because he came forth voluntarily. If he sinned again, he would certainly be excommunicated unless there were mitigating circumstances (such as being tied up and forced).

We see this in his behavior when he did not follow through on his plans to visit JA in Yreka. He was sincere in his repentance.

When you understand that Jodi might not have known Travis had been to his bishop, you begin to see how the motive was accelerated for the murder. She shows up and he rejects her sexual advances. Over the following hours she learns that Mimi Hall has replaced her on the Cancun trip. She already knows he wants to get married but perhaps thinks the secret travels/sexcapades are going to continue regardless-- until she finds out he has been to the bishop without telling her.

In Mormon culture, it is considered a betrayal to go to the bishop and confess without giving your partner the opportunity to do the same thing concurrently, and thereby avoiding a perpetrator/victim view of the fornication. If you each go to your separate bishops at the same time, or both go to one bishop, it goes much easier on you If you say you are setting a wedding date, it will go very easy on you. Chances are you will not even be disfellowshipped.

With Travis putting his membership in jeopardy if he has sex with JA again, that clearly points to JA's motive to fake a sex scene to go with the phone sex in order to blackmail TA into silence. At this point, she knows she will not remain his girlfriend or his dirty little secret because he is not going to give up his membership for her--no way. That would ruin him at PPL as well. And his ability to sell a book would be nil. An excommunicated person sometimes can't even get work in Utah and some parts of Idaho and Arizona.

Her only chance to continue to prey on Mormon men and meet wealthy ones who don't know her low class morals and social status, is to silence Travis. He foolishly has threatened to expose her to all their friends for the things she has done and the stalking, etc. He knows she is a sociopath but somehow does not know they are DANGEROUS. If he follows through with his threat, she is back to living off tips in her grandmother's extra bedroom.

This is why he had to die. He refused to be silenced and she knew one foolproof way to maintain her ability to continue the Mormon/PPL goldmine she discovered and that was to kill him.

I am sure jealousy was a factor but survival as a female bombshell predator feeding on these virginal returned missionaries was paramount, imo.

:goodpost:

We're on the same wave~link. This is exactly what I feel happened too!

Thank you for your post!

JMHO
fran
 
  • #268
I guess that raises another question -- is self-defense a reasonable defense if one thinks one is threatened -- when in reality that person is NOT threatened?

In other words -- I think the DT is trying to say that JA felt threatened because of her PTSD and so she attacked. But the facts don't support that she was threatened -- she had no wounds except for minor ones (finger cuts) showing she wasn't under a life threatening situation. Does it really matter (legally) if she thought she was if she wasn't?

Hope that makes sense! I'm trying to look at this from a purely legal POV. Back into :lurk: mode

I think she has to be reasonably certain he planned to kill her. I don't think she has proven that in the minds of all the jurors. One juror asked if he might have stopped to pick up his camera to look at it. Sounds as if the juror may think the camera was fine and Travis went after her to tell her so. Once she grabbed the gun he tried to defend himself. That is what I'm taking from that question from the juror. Who hasn't gotten mad when something you think has been broken only to find and get glad again when you discover it is fine.
 
  • #269
:seeya: I think she looks more psychotic now than ever. Even her movements are eerie. She looks like she could lose it at anytime. Hope they have the remote for her stun belt close by.. I wouldn't mind one bit seeing her get jolted

Agree her appearance has changed since trial has started.

I think she *may* be getting a clue that the jig is up.
(yeah I realize that's a big "may" to be coming from a narcissist)
She seems like she's ready to lose it mentally - and that is showing in her physical appearance.

Plus ... I believe the medical personnel @ the jail have had to adjust her meds recently - to keep her from blowing a gasket in the courtroom.
Someone posted a few days ago, that a comment was overheard along the lines of 'make sure she takes her medication'. (sorry, no link - just remember reading that here)

She's scary looking.
Sad to think that's likely the last thing Travis saw before his death.
 
  • #270
this explains the whole hughes thing, right here. she talked to sky about TA. sky told her she didn't want her (JA) to become another deanna. she said deanna spent 6 years with TA and he never committed to her. then they wrote him that email. this is what that whole deal's about.

so this is the 'abuse' ALV is referring to, which figures, since normal human behavior---especially MEN'S normal behavior----qualifies as 'abuse' in her book.

Sky's view may have been he was just using her.
 
  • #271
During part 2 of the interrogation video: She starts one story, segues to a side track, sidetracks off that one, then takes another turn ... by that stage, there's like 10 stories lined up before we're going to get to the main question ... this gives her time to come up with a better lie, and this is how she hopes to avoid the original question .. and nearly every time she mentions a 'friend' they cop a little Jodi-judgement. Loving Flores' exasperated sighs throughout.
 
  • #272
both are females.[/quote]

OMG :what::what:
 
  • #273
David Lohr has been so kind to post the UNEDITED Police Interrogation videos :blowkiss:
:gthanks:


Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE_Ue5rF8QM

Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gglhBzgDly8

Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl01kF96-10

Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 4
[video=youtube;6k29w7HjsVM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k29w7HjsVM[/video]
 
  • #274
I guess that raises another question -- is self-defense a reasonable defense if one thinks one is threatened -- when in reality that person is NOT threatened?

In other words -- I think the DT is trying to say that JA felt threatened because of her PTSD and so she attacked. But the facts don't support that she was threatened -- she had no wounds except for minor ones (finger cuts) showing she wasn't under a life threatening situation. Does it really matter (legally) if she thought she was if she wasn't?

Hope that makes sense! I'm trying to look at this from a purely legal POV. Back into :lurk: mode

Different laws in different states (FL "stand your ground" law). I think the most common interpretation of self defense is that a reasonable person would feel threatened under similar circumstances and therefore has a right to act to protect self or others. Has to be an imminent threat with few options (run!) for self protection.

Stand your ground - and I had hoped to find out how this worked in the the George Zimmerman / Travon Martin case, uses a different standard. I believe it's a much much easier standard without the "reasonable person" or retreat component.
 
  • #275
Sky's view may have been he was just using her.

i'm sure it was. hell, this conversation with sky was in the very beginning of the relationship. so what? it sounds like JA wanted a commitment within the first WEEKS of this relationship.
 
  • #276
Excerpt:

"Sexual attraction and the promise of hot sex is still one of the most powerful tools a woman can use on a man. Most men can’t say No to this level of temptation. The predatory female who is determined to control this man sexually is thrilled by the prospect of “getting him” but her ambitions go much higher. If he is a very big fish, she has already planned how she will use this intimate association to increase her professional power. That’s the operative word–Power. Ultimately, when he falls, she doesn’t give a damn about him. He is a fool like all of the other men she has seduced, possessed and discarded. She will get the most out of her conquest. Soon she will move on to another mark. When she is called notorious, she secretly smiles inside. Notorious–that has a glamorous, forbidden, mysterious, powerful ring to it. I like the feel of that word inside my skin, She says to herself."

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Red Text by Me -- Remember in the interview room when Jodi giggled? IMHO that was very telling of what turns this freak creature on.

DT

http://thenarcissistinyourlife.com/tag/narcissistic-women-use-sex-to-get-power/
 
  • #277
I have reading posts and there are several that talk about seeing some pic's ~ and once you see these pictures you cannot unsee them/ hiding a dozen Easter eggs :wink: Call me whatever you want, but NOW my curiousity has gotten the better of me. Where are these pics? Can someone give me a link or tell me where to find them?
"When can I see those pictures"? "Can I see those pictures soon"? :lol:
 
  • #278
During part 2 of the interrogation video: She starts one story, segues to a side track, sidetracks off that one, then takes another turn ... by that stage, there's like 10 stories lined up before we're going to get to the main question ... this gives her time to come up with a better lie, and this is how she hopes to avoid the original question .. and nearly every time she mentions a 'friend' they cop a little Jodi-judgement. Loving Flores' exasperated sighs throughout.
I love that part where she's going on and on about her cat scratching her and he says "enough about your cat...."
 
  • #279
Hi all, We learned last night that after just supporting my dad through colon cancer surgery in January, my mum has been diagnosed with ALS.Overwhelming to say the least. I'm glad to be able to get my mind on something else here for a moment.

Did anything new happen about the questioning of the jury yesterday about whether or not they saw JM? tia
 
  • #280
And Flores says Travis portrays himself to have a lot of money, but he really doesn't. That makes complete sense, I could not work out how he could get into mortgage trouble on a house worth around the mid $200,000s if he was on $80k pa with roommates .. man, every time she starts talking it's like she free falls ... once it starts she speeds up and ads more and more detail ..

Theres lots and lots of great info in these videos because Jodi is an awesome freudian slipper and her lies are transparent and you can read between the lines to the truth. Way to go David Lohr for posting these in full!
 
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