Looks like war. . .

[nanandjim]

I totally agree with you it's like look the other way and it will all go away, it is not going to go away. And blaming it on everyone else it not going to make it go away either.
I am with you the world is a very scary place right now and even scarier because Europe and many others want to bury their heads in the sand. The Terrorists are NOT going away, Iran is NOT going away, the leader of Iran is a total wack job. He wants to annihilate Israel (with the help of Syria and whoever else) then move on from there.

I think that Europe will sit back, hoping the U.S. do the dirty work, as usual. I believe that America is Iran's ultimate target. The attitude in this country of "Let's not get involved; and let's mind our own business." is a very narrow-minded view. We will be involved, sooner or later.

My belief is that we don't need to jump too soon, but we definitely need to keep a keen eye on what Iran is doing. If it looks like they are speeding up development of their nuclear capacity, we better make a decision to act. At that point, no country is safe--especially ours.

 

[Maral]

Thanks, Tom'sGirl. I thought that I had read that somewhere.

ETA: To be honest, my husband first told me that Canada was our largesat supplier. He does a lot of business in Canada. Then, I read it....not that I didn't believe him...

Hi Nan, according to statisctics from API (American Petroleum Institute) and EIA (Energy Information Administration, a US government agency) Canada is the largest single country importer of petroleum to the U.S. But we import more than twice as much from OPEC than from Canada, which comprises several countries, most of which are in the middle east.

 

[nanandjim]

Hi Nan, according to statisctics from API (American Petroleum Institute) and EIA (Energy Information Administration, a US government agency) Canada is the largest single country importer of petroleum to the U.S. But we import more than twice as much from OPEC than from Canada, which comprises several countries, most of which are in the middle east.

Here's an article, albeit a little old. If I am reading it correctly, it also states that Canada provides the most outside resources to us. Note that none of the articles mention Iran as a significant oil source.

http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntn25000.htm

Here's the paragraph on Oil Imports:

Imports/exports
The United States averaged total gross oil (crude and products) imports of an estimated 11.2 mm bpd during the first nine months of 2002, representing around 57 % of total US oil demand.
Around two-fifths of this oil came from OPEC nations, with Persian Gulf sources accounting for about one-fifth of total US oil imports. Overall, the top suppliers of oil to the United States during the first nine months of 2002 were Canada (1.9 mm bpd), Saudi Arabia (1.5 mm bpd), Mexico (1.5 mm bpd), and Venezuela (1.4 mm bpd).

P.S. This is my last comment on our oil sources.

 

[TisHerself]

I think that Europe will sit back, hoping the U.S. do the dirty work, as usual. I believe that America is Iran's ultimate target. The attitude in this country of "Let's not get involved; and let's mind our own business." is a very narrow-minded view. We will be involved, sooner or later.

My belief is that we don't need to jump too soon, but we definitely need to keep a keen eye on what Iran is doing. If it looks like they are speeding up development of their nuclear capacity, we better make a decision to act. At that point, no country is safe--especially ours.

:clap: :clap: :clap: Very narrow minded and naive...... this action of Lebanon and Hezbollah against Israel why now? Could it be to put the UN's focus somewhere else other than Iran's nuclear capacity??? Because make no mistake Iran is behind this attack against Israel.

 

[arielilane]

Yeah, it's war. Israel has problems, to be sure, and the nations around it are unfriendly, but they also bring a lot on themselves with overreactions and their history. I've got no problem with killing terrorists, but when they treat all arabs and palestinians as terrorists, and take actions that kill innocents, that needs to be something they are very, very careful with - and they haven't been.

This all started when the world decided to give away the Palestinian's land, then ignored what happened next. We wouldn't react well to that either. And while the situation is more complex than this - how would we react if there was a group of radical terrorists hiding out in America, attacking Mexico, and Mexico starts bombing our airports and suburbs trying to kill those terrorists and punish us for not catching all of them?

Well stated, Details! I agree.

 

[Marthatex]

MT - Did you see the information that Tom'sGirl posted? Canada is indeed our largest supplier.

Largest supplier doesn't mean 2/3 of our oil my dear. Yes I have read the statistics. There are 5 large suppliers, including Saudi Arabia.

Your original post stated I believe that Canada supplies 2/3 of our oil. That is the only thing I am correcting.

 

[Marthatex]

:clap: :clap: :clap: Very narrow minded and naive...... this action of Lebanon and Hezbollah against Israel why now? Could it be to put the UN's focus somewhere else other than Iran's nuclear capacity??? Because make no mistake Iran is behind this attack against Israel.

That's exactly right IMO.

How can we be willing to go into Iraq and fight "terrorism" there, and not be willing to support Israel against equally harmful terrorists there?

I agree we are treading a fine line with Iran, and I sure wouldn't know what to do; hope someone does; but I don't know how we could not support Israel against Hamas and Hezbollah, backed by Iran.

 

[Marthatex]

Iran is the 4th world oil exporter, a member of OPEC. I'm sure we get some from them, but even if we don't oil prices will be affected, and the world economy.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables1_2.html

 

[TisHerself]

Some of us are old enough to remember the Doomsday Clock. I think it just moved to 2 mintues before midnight. Syria just announced it will offer "full support" to Hezbollah. One unkown not being mentioned is WMD. One of the possible destination for Saddam's WMD was Syria. There are tapes of him discussing this with his cabinet and the foiled attack in Jordan with chemical weapons from Syria.
If Syria tries to give conventional support to Hezbollah like resupply with Syrian aircraft or using the Syrian AF to defend against Israeli attacks, then Israel will attack Syria. If Syria uses WMD to attack Israel, then the clock will strike midnight.
Doomsday Clock: Current Time | thebulletin.org
The Iranians might well be using the Syrians as a proxy in order to kick this thing off.

 

[TisHerself]

Iran is the 4th world oil exporter, a member of OPEC. I'm sure we get some from them, but even if we don't oil prices will be affected, and the world economy.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables1_2.html

Yep big time.

 

[nanandjim]

Some of us are old enough to remember the Doomsday Clock. I think it just moved to 2 mintues before midnight. Syria just announced it will offer "full support" to Hezbollah. One unkown not being mentioned is WMD. One of the possible destination for Saddam's WMD was Syria. There are tapes of him discussing this with his cabinet and the foiled attack in Jordan with chemical weapons from Syria.
If Syria tries to give conventional support to Hezbollah like resupply with Syrian aircraft or using the Syrian AF to defend against Israeli attacks, then Israel will attack Syria. If Syria uses WMD to attack Israel, then the clock will strike midnight.
Doomsday Clock: Current Time | thebulletin.org
The Iranians might well be using the Syrians as a proxy in order to kick this thing off.

Good point. I forgot about the suspected movement of Iraq's WMD to Syria. It will be very interesting to see what transpires.

Let's hope that the liberals were right in this regard, meaning that there was NO WMD and therefore no movement to places like Syria.

 

[TisHerself]

In the mideast, the hatred of Israel is not rational. And remember WMD is not just nukes, there is chemical and biological. Remember the 20 tons of chemical weapons Jordan captured that came from Syria

 

[Marthatex]

Yep big time.

Here's another article on the Canadian oil supply; on the Schlumberge web site; I believe they manufacture oil equipment.

Canada supplies about 17% of our oil; a large amount. But China is courting Canada for a future share of this.

Iran supplies 17% of Persian Gulf oil; Saudi Arabia supplies 49%. Iran also has a huge natural gas supply.

http://realtimenews.slb.com/news/story.cfm?storyid=634872

 

[aussieblue]

That's what I'm feeling, too. I think we should just airlift the Israelis to a new place - in Australia, or New Zealand; it might be easier than carrying on wars. Let them start anew; although they've made a beautiful country there.

They were moved from one hostile environment to another.

You are joking right??????????????

 

[TisHerself]

Here's another article on the Canadian oil supply; on the Schlumberge web site; I believe they manufacture oil equipment.

Canada supplies about 17% of our oil; a large amount. But China is courting Canada for a future share of this.

Iran supplies 17% of Persian Gulf oil; Saudi Arabia supplies 49%. Iran also has a huge natural gas supply.

http://realtimenews.slb.com/news/story.cfm?storyid=634872

I watched a BBC special on this, Canadian Oil supply and how China was courting them. How in the future Canada could be a Major world supplier of oil, it was really an eye opener.

 

[dingo]

You are joking right??????????????

Id hope so!!.

 

[dingo]

That's what I'm feeling, too. I think we should just airlift the Israelis to a new place - in Australia, or New Zealand; it might be easier than carrying on wars. Let them start anew; although they've made a beautiful country there.

They were moved from one hostile environment to another.

Why not move them To Texas

 

[Marthatex]

Why not move them To Texas

I didn't mean that as any kind of offense. I'd be quite happy to move them to Texas - they're great people.

I have several people of Israeli descent in my immediate family. One of they nice young men in one of my rent homes is an Israeli who is getting his PhD in Middle Eastern Studies. Unbelievably, he is not entirely pro-Israel at this time.

Yes, I was being facetious, but is it such a bad idea to move them to where they won't be threatened? The reason I named Australia or New Zealand is because I think they would be great places to live; myself included.

Hope to visit there soon.

 

[dingo]

I didn't mean that as any kind of offense. I'd be quite happy to move them to Texas - they're great people.

I have several people of Israeli descent in my immediate family. One of they nice young men in one of my rent homes is an Israeli who is getting his PhD in Middle Eastern Studies. Unbelievably, he is not entirely pro-Israel at this time.

Yes, I was being facetious, but is it such a bad idea to move them to where they won't be threatened? The reason I named Australia or New Zealand is because I think they would be great places to live; myself included.

Hope to visit there soon.

It is a great place to live...and I feel for these people..I would love to see them living in peace....enjoying the things we take for granted.

 

[narlacat]

I didn't mean that as any kind of offense. I'd be quite happy to move them to Texas - they're great people.

I have several people of Israeli descent in my immediate family. One of they nice young men in one of my rent homes is an Israeli who is getting his PhD in Middle Eastern Studies. Unbelievably, he is not entirely pro-Israel at this time.

Yes, I was being facetious, but is it such a bad idea to move them to where they won't be threatened? The reason I named Australia or New Zealand is because I think they would be great places to live; myself included.

Hope to visit there soon.

Where they won't be threatened?
We are just as threatened as you guys now.

Don't try and dump them on us, we don't want any trouble anymore than you do.