GUILTY MA - Aaron Hernandez, New England Patriots player, charged with homicides #4

[Queen Bee]

i doubt he will do anything to himself as narcissists rarely do.......but for god's sake keep that monster alive for now!!!!!!!!!!!

i want the families of his other two murder victims to have their day in court and feel that same peace that ursula ward finally felt when justice was served for odin....lord knows they have earned it and aaron hernandez has earned being shamed before the world as the murderer he is

:rose: Daniel Jorge Correia de Abreu
:rose: Safiro Teixeira Furtado

:rose: strength to those that love them

 

[steelman]

Sheriff: Aaron Hernandez exhibits some 'sociopathic issues'

Hernandez told guards that verdict was ‘wrong’

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...on_hernandez_exhibits_some_sociopathic_issues

“Over the course of time I’ve had a lot of opportunities to speak with him and one of the things that I learned was that he is the best I’ve ever seen at manipulation. He is the best I’ve ever seen at compartmentalizing things so that he doesn’t have to deal with the here and now,” Hodgson said, adding, “he is a master at using his charm to position himself and get what he needs. I’ve never seen anybody better at it. Literally if he sat down with you and you had not met him before within five minutes you’d be saying ‘hey listen, let’s go out and get a beer.’ ... He’s very respectful - but I saw the other side.”

Judge’s decisions ‘made verdict strong' in Aaron Hernandez trial

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op..._made_verdict_strong_in_aaron_hernandez_trial

The quote by the sheriff kinda highlights the point I was trying to make last week after the verdict was read. There is something about this guy that isn't obvious on the surface, and I have no doubt he may try to retaliate against some of the people that landed in him prison. The jurors being out in the media and making themselves both visible and vocal was a big concern to me.

I don't usually worry about things like that when someone is convicted to a life sentence and hauled off to a concrete cell. But in this case, and with that old gang he used to run with, I think he might be able to reach out from that prison cell and take vengeance against the people that landed him there. I was a little bit surprised at all the interviews and media attention that the jurors were afforded, but I'm not too sure that getting in front of the cameras and gloating about convicting this guy is all that smart.

He comes across to me as someone who is very patient and methodical. "You'll pay, You'll ALL pay".

 

[Queen Bee]

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/04/...ing-forward-with-aaron-hernandez-prosecution/

Keller @ Large: Suffolk DA Moving Forward With Aaron Hernandez Prosecution

“They deserve our full and best efforts for vindication of them and the terrible tragedy that their family suffered,” Conley told WBZ-TV political analyst Jon Keller. “We intend to speak for them in court, regardless of what happened in Bristol.”

 

[Niner]

Okay- good verdict! My Huz just asked me - Why did Hernandez shoot Odin in the first place? Anyone? TIA! :wave:

 

[katydid23]

Okay- good verdict! My Huz just asked me - Why did Hernandez shoot Odin in the first place? Anyone? TIA! :wave:

The State could not discuss this in the trial because it was ordered off limits. But Hernandez had become paranoid that Odin knew too much about the double murder in Bristol.

 

[borndem]

The quote by the sheriff kinda highlights the point I was trying to make last week after the verdict was read. There is something about this guy that isn't obvious on the surface, and I have no doubt he may try to retaliate against some of the people that landed in him prison. The jurors being out in the media and making themselves both visible and vocal was a big concern to me.

I don't usually worry about things like that when someone is convicted to a life sentence and hauled off to a concrete cell. But in this case, and with that old gang he used to run with, I think he might be able to reach out from that prison cell and take vengeance against the people that landed him there. I was a little bit surprised at all the interviews and media attention that the jurors were afforded, but I'm not too sure that getting in front of the cameras and gloating about convicting this guy is all that smart.

He comes across to me as someone who is very patient and methodical. "You'll pay, You'll ALL pay".

Oooooh, Steelman -- What you said gave me chills -- he does sound like that kind of guy. All we can hope for here is that the shine that some of his peeps see & feel from him wears off him quickly. And I hope he will eventually -- after the next trial, and that'll be a little while, IMO -- just fade into the woodwork of whatever prison he inhabits. Of course he can make friends in prison as well, and not all of them will be serving life sentences. Another <shiver>.

I can still see him at the Defense table with that super-confident look on his face -- right up until the words "Guilty of Murder in the First Degree" floated through the courtroom, and the smile came back almost immediately. We may never know of the extent of his evil.

 

[TexMex]

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/aaron-hernandez-a-40-million-murderer/

Aaron Hernandez: A $40 million murderer

 

[SStarr33]

The quote by the sheriff kinda highlights the point I was trying to make last week after the verdict was read. There is something about this guy that isn't obvious on the surface, and I have no doubt he may try to retaliate against some of the people that landed in him prison. The jurors being out in the media and making themselves both visible and vocal was a big concern to me.

I don't usually worry about things like that when someone is convicted to a life sentence and hauled off to a concrete cell. But in this case, and with that old gang he used to run with, I think he might be able to reach out from that prison cell and take vengeance against the people that landed him there. I was a little bit surprised at all the interviews and media attention that the jurors were afforded, but I'm not too sure that getting in front of the cameras and gloating about convicting this guy is all that smart.

He comes across to me as someone who is very patient and methodical. "You'll pay, You'll ALL pay".

I agree, but the problem is that MA law makes the names of the jurors public upon completion of the case. I don't understand that law.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/aaron-hernandez-a-40-million-murderer/

Aaron Hernandez: A $40 million murderer

Good article......I think we really should study the particular's & details of AH's early life to learn about psychopaths. There has to be a study done to then learn about prevention---& intervention.

We need to have something as a takeaway from this---as a society. What can we learn?

 

[SStarr33]

Good article......I think we really should study the particular's & details of AH's early life to learn about psychopaths. There has to be a study done to then learn about prevention---& intervention.

We need to have something as a takeaway from this---as a society. What can we learn?

We already know the answer. No matter who they are, don't let people get away with crap. Start it when they are young and even if they are the president, do not overlook it.

 

[borndem]

The Arrogance of Aaron Hernandez

http://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/the-arrogance-of-aaron-hernandez

Excellent article, TexMex -- thanks.

From it:

Hernandez seems to have no such moral impulse to check his hyper-competitive nature; in prison, it’s likely that he will not look for a way to make amends but, rather, that he’ll seek out more people to manipulate and harm.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/the-arrogance-of-aaron-hernandez

That excerpt states what I've been thinking -- Hernandez will still be quite the competitor. He will not go quietly, IMO, and he will not walk away from a threat or a "measurement" of any kind -- Who is the baddest? The strongest? The meanest? He will not be the one to blink first. Even after the next trial is over, regardless of the verdict for AH, we will not have heard the last of him, IMO.

 

[borndem]

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/aaron-hernandez-a-40-million-murderer/

Aaron Hernandez: A $40 million murderer

Good article -- worth reading!

One little part in the article intrigues me:

It happened to a team that has won four Super Bowls the past 14 years. The Patriots knew Hernandez’s history, and even in giving him that $40 million extension, they made sure to protect themselves in case he got in trouble.

from the article brought to us by TexMex:

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/aaron-hernandez-a-40-million-murderer/

bbm

I couldn't tell from the article how the Patriots protected "themselves in case he got in trouble." Was it merely that they fired him? Not buying that, sez I.

Does anyone know what that means or what the Patriots did to protect themselves? Many thanks if you know and share!

 

[Queen Bee]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...n-hernandez-s-troubled-history-202909022.html

Adviser: Patriots structured Aaron Hernandez's contract around troubled past

sorry to quote myself...........but this is for your question borndem........

it seems the patriots structured his rookie contract around his troubled past in that he had strict guidelines at first...........if he proved himself, more money would be forthcoming......story at the link in my post i quoted......

however, even though a psychological done in 2010 was not all that great, they refuse to acknowledge if they were aware of it and they gambled on him..........they knew he was trouble, bottom line.......

hope this helps, it was all i could find on the subject :seeya:

 

[borndem]

We already know the answer. No matter who they are, don't let people get away with crap. Start it when they are young and even if they are the president, do not overlook it.

I heartily agree with you, SStarr, but when young athletes are noticed to be a couple of notches above their athletic peers, the recruiters or scouts send the kids mail, etc., sometimes as early as the eighth grade. A kid with a great curve ball and an 80--85 mph fastball in middle school. A kid who can run the 100m in 10:15 secs. as a sophomore in H.S. A girl who can dunk a basketball in her H.S. freshman year. They are admired, applauded, chased by pretty girls or boys; teachers give the star a C instead of a D, and they don't even realize they should not have. He's a nice kid, but doesn't get a lot of study time, ya know.

We love sports in this country, and we pay them oh, so well if they are special. It's nuts. No excuses for AH, none, IMO, but that dynamic is indeed part of the frenzy with super athletes and those in places of power.

 

[TexMex]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/cold-blood-aaron-hernandez-murder-trial-article-1.2189918

The chilling story of convicted murderer Aaron Hernandez, and the trial that put him away for the rest of his life



No matter the motive, Hernandez’s actions reflected a depraved approach. His halcyon days — a Super Bowl touchdown pass from Tom Brady, his name announced in Boston nightclubs (“Aaron Hernandez in the house!”), Patriots employees facilitating his finding a flophouse — grew more distant as the trial trudged along, through blizzards and a bomb threat. Testimony elicited by the prosecutors traced the trajectory of his quick descent, showing him to be an incorrigible cad, chain-smoking marijuana, cheating on his fiancée and questioning whom he could trust. Inebriated and high the night of the murder, clues led right to his mansion’s door.

 

[jilly]

sorry to quote myself...........but this is for your question borndem........

it seems the patriots structured his rookie contract around his troubled past in that he had strict guidelines at first...........if he proved himself, more money would be forthcoming......story at the link in my post i quoted......

however, even though a psychological done in 2010 was not all that great, they refuse to acknowledge if they were aware of it and they gambled on him..........they knew he was trouble, bottom line.......

hope this helps, it was all i could find on the subject :seeya:

Yes QB - in your article it states:

....Patriots signed him to his rookie contract, the deal was structured so that "75 percent of the money in the contract set up so that he would only make it if he stayed out of trouble, didn’t miss meetings, was always there doing the right thing," according to an MMQB interview with Floyd Reese, a senior adviser with the team at the time Hernandez was drafted.....

That was AHs rookie contract and AH lived up to that. I'm not sure the $40 million extension included that. You'd think it would have.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Yes QB - in your article it states:

....Patriots signed him to his rookie contract, the deal was structured so that "75 percent of the money in the contract set up so that he would only make it if he stayed out of trouble, didn&#8217;t miss meetings, was always there doing the right thing," according to an MMQB interview with Floyd Reese, a senior adviser with the team at the time Hernandez was drafted.....

That was AHs rookie contract and AH lived up to that. I'm not sure the $40 million extension included that. You'd think it would have.

There was a Rolling Stones article a while back that noted AH's drug use (PCP) became significantly worse when he landed the $40 million dollar contract. He just couldn't handle it.

 

[borndem]

sorry to quote myself...........but this is for your question borndem........

it seems the patriots structured his rookie contract around his troubled past in that he had strict guidelines at first...........if he proved himself, more money would be forthcoming......story at the link in my post i quoted......

however, even though a psychological done in 2010 was not all that great, they refuse to acknowledge if they were aware of it and they gambled on him..........they knew he was trouble, bottom line.......

hope this helps, it was all i could find on the subject :seeya:

Thanks! Thanks, Bee!! Just what I wanted -- now I know. The Thanks button was not enuff.

 

[SStarr33]

Lisa Kraus Edwards &#8207;@LAKEdwards 4h4 hours ago

#AaronHernandez trial withdrawal? A different side - VERY different - of prosecutor William McCauley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFS2JyzCYYQ

 

[jilly]

There was a Rolling Stones article a while back that noted AH's drug use (PCP) became significantly worse when he landed the $40 million dollar contract. He just couldn't handle it.

I didn't realize PCP is the same as angel dust. I could only find this RS article:


http://www.rollingstone.com/feature/the-gangster-in-the-huddle#ixzz3SDoKfwxq

RS appear to have done alot of research! According to the article, Bellichick (at least knew) looked the other way and should have fired AH long before.