GUILTY MA - Colleen Ritzer, 24, brutally murdered, Danvers, 22 Oct 2013 #1

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  • #421
OMG OMG. It just keeps getting worse. Was absolutely planned --- hood, glasses, gloves, another change of clothes, boxcutter, "sexually staged"...OMG. I read somewhere that I can no longer find - that there was a "plumbing appliance" used somehow. So the first thing he did was punch her in the face, then sliced her throat...then..........this kid will go down in history for such a heinous act, especially at his age. IMO. Just sick over this.
 
  • #422
Earlier someone had posted a link to a map of the school. Does anyone know where that is?

I believe the school is at 60 Cabot Rd. With the release of PC's home address, it appears he lived fairly close to the movie theater. It seems he headed in the general direction of his home after killing his teacher. The teacher's phone last pinged in a area midway between the school and the theater. PC's phone last pinged near the theater.

If I'm interpreting the affidavit correctly, it sounds like PC immediately (within one minute) followed his teacher into the restroom. A female student entered and quickly exited 11 minutes later. The female student observed clothing on the floor and a person leaning over with bare butt exposed. It sounds like the female student made an assumption the naked person was changing clothes, but she didn't stick around long enough to be certain. IMO, a person with bare butt exposed leaning over could be changing or removing clothes, applying a condom, engaged in a sexual act, so many possibilities.

Because the tree branch is described as being 3 feet long, it seems likely it would have been seen on the video if it was part of the initial assault. My assumption is that the assault with the tree branch occurred later, after the teacher's body had been removed from the bathroom.

This news is so disturbing.

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As always, all of my comments are just my opinion.
 
  • #423
Can a WS please detail the timeline of events from the affidavit that is now public? I don't know how to find and look at docs like most of you do. Thanks. I am just wondering how long in minutes - from when he entered to when he left. Ughh. Just so awful.
 
  • #424
Can a WS please detail the timeline of events from the affidavit that is now public? I don't know how to find and look at docs like most of you do. Thanks. I am just wondering how long in minutes - from when he entered to when he left. Ughh. Just so awful.

It's on this reporters twitter feed. If you click on the picture of each page it should blow up, but it's still a little difficult to read. It will probably be posted in MSM at some point.

https://twitter.com/johnzaremba/status/403921325850230785/photo/1
 
  • #425
The student that briefly walked into the bathroom is interesting. She said she saw a "bare butt" and immediately left. Clearly this must have been PC changing clothes or preparing to, or just finished, sexually assaulting the victim. What is interesting is that the student didnt apparently see blood. I would think, and i believe the police earlier stated the bathroom was very bloody. So perhaps when the student walked in, he hadnt yet cut her throat. Perhaps he had indeed beat her unconscious and the student just didnt see her. I will try to read the affidavit to see if it talks about the condition of the bathroom.
 
  • #426
Can a WS please detail the timeline of events from the affidavit that is now public? I don't know how to find and look at docs like most of you do. Thanks. I am just wondering how long in minutes - from when he entered to when he left. Ughh. Just so awful.

GutInstinct, all the documents & details of events are at JZ's twitter link.
https://twitter.com/johnzaremba

John Zaremba ‏@johnzaremba 1h
Here's our story so far;
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinio..._teen_killer_left_i_hate_you_all_note_next_to

Cops: Teen killer left `I hate you all' note next to teacher's body
by John Zaremba..
 
  • #427
Can a WS please detail the timeline of events from the affidavit that is now public? I don't know how to find and look at docs like most of you do. Thanks. I am just wondering how long in minutes - from when he entered to when he left. Ughh. Just so awful.

I reviewed photos of the affidavit on Twitter and I'm not sure I'm allowed to link that. But here's the timeline in reference to the bathroom:

2:54 Teacher exits classroom and enters bathroom
2:55 PC exits classroom and enters bathroom
3:06 Female students enters and quickly exits bathroom
3:07 PC exits bathroom
3:16 PC returns to bathroom with large bin
3:22 PC exits bathroom with bin
4:05 PC enters bathroom
4:06 PC exits bathroom

The above timeline only includes activity directly related to the bathroom. The timeline in the affidavit is more detailed.

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As always, all of the above is just my opinion.
 
  • #428
Do you guys think it's too much to ask for that she died quickly, or was knocked out before he slit her throat and sexually assaulted her? By the time the other student came in, the poor teacher was clearly already gone.

I also think that student had an INCREDIBLY close call. A lone girl, wandering into a bathroom and nearly running into this half naked, crazed psychopath, who at the time was clearly still trying to hide his crime? He exited the bathroom ONE MINUTE after she took off. I shudder to think of it.
 
  • #429
Thank you. I see it all now as well. 12 mins in bathroom....
 
  • #430
Do you guys think it's too much to ask for that she died quickly, or was knocked out before he slit her throat and sexually assaulted her? By the time the other student came in, the poor teacher was clearly already gone.

I also think that student had an INCREDIBLY close call. A lone girl, wandering into a bathroom and nearly running into this half naked, crazed psychopath, who at the time was clearly still trying to hide his crime? He exited the bathroom ONE MINUTE after she took off. I shudder to think of it.

ami, no, I don't think that it is to much to ask for that CR died quickly. Sadly, imo, PC was very sadistic, and in reality, would have wanted to inflict as much pain and torturous brutality on her during this horrific and vicious attack. The use of objects and the posing of the body indicates a very malignant, and deviant violent psychopath. imo.

Imo, PC was a malignant sadistic psychopathic sexual predator/serial killer in training.. One of the seasoned investigators described CP as being very cold.
Time will tell, but his dna should be entered into FBI CODIS/NAMUS, unsolved rapes/sexual related murders in the Danver area, as well as his previous addresses in TN, etc. PC's past should be scrutinized for prior rapes and other similar crimes, imo...
Hopefully investigators will seek help and the resources of the FBI BAU in this endeavor. PC is an anomaly, imo..
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What must this young girl&#8217;s final minutes have been like? Did she cry out while he was repeatedly stabbing her, or keep silent, breathing like a wounded animal, watching for the next glint of a blade? Did her thoughts turn to her parents in those final seconds, when she was overwhelmed by the deepest loneliness she had ever known? Did she experience a dissociative response, the sense of drifting upward and watching her own death as if from above? Or did she sink mercifully into unconsciousness, and feel nothing as her life ebbed away?
 
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  • #432
It was a barkless tree branch that was found inside of her. Did he skin the branch before using it and was it used in the bathroom? sick 🤬🤬🤬
 
  • #433
Tree branches usually are not bark. The box cutter was used to slit her throat :(
 
  • #434
I wonder what the mask was. So; he had a mask on while he did this to her; she didn't knw her attacker, I cannot help but wonder what mask. What kind.
 
  • #435
I wonder what the mask was. So; he had a mask on while he did this to her; she didn't knw her attacker, I cannot help but wonder what mask. What kind.

The report says it was a balaclava/ski mask.
 
  • #436
It was a barkless tree branch that was found inside of her. Did he skin the branch before using it and was it used in the bathroom? sick 🤬🤬🤬

I don't think he had the tree branch in the bathroom. I think he picked it up from the ground, where he left her body. He posed her body and the branch was part of that.
 
  • #437
He referred to his teacher as "the girl." That is meaningful and disturbing to me. He didn't say the blood on the knife came from Ms. Ritzer or my teacher, he calls her the girl. Her mentioning Tennessee made me think that perhaps and ex-gf had a new boyfriend or something like that and he became incensed because of it. HOWEVER, he showed up to school with his murder gear. He planned on doing this. Was she his intended victim or would it be another "girl?"
 
  • #438
He referred to his teacher as "the girl." That is meaningful and disturbing to me. He didn't he the blood on the knife came from Ms. Ritzer or my teacher, he calls her the girl. Her mentioning Tennessee made me think that perhaps and ex-gf had a new boyfriend or something like that and he became incensed because of it. HOWEVER, he showed up to school with his murder gear. He planned on doing this. Was she his intended victim or would it be another "girl?"


matou, CR was only an object to CP, imo.. A classmate of CP's stated that he had been withdrawn for two weeks prior to CR's murder. I suspect her vicious attack/murder was not impulsive, but planned during this time, imo. Imo, she was the targeted victim...
cat>feline>female>overbearing/domineering mother, imo..

Fox News; Shep Smith Show ran a segment a few minutes ago..
 
  • #439
I suppose its possible he had been carrying the mask and box cutter in his backpack for days or even weeks. Just looking for an opportunity, etc. Something set him off that day.
 
  • #440
I wonder what the mask was. So; he had a mask on while he did this to her; she didn't knw her attacker, I cannot help but wonder what mask. What kind.


The mask was likely due to the security cameras. PC would have removed it once inside the restroom, imo.
 
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