MA - Conrad Roy, 18, urged by friend, commits suicide, Fairhaven, 13 July 2014

[Lilibet]

I think they should have been able to ask her under oath if she put it up. At least the judge granted the subpoena for Twitter to turn over the IP address. I am of two minds as to whether or not it is her, but I am willing to bet her IP has bounced off of a few discussion sites .

BBM

She's probably complaining to Mom and Dad about all the "haters" here on WS!

 

[zoey]

Well, well, well:



LINK HERE

Yay--no way dear mom is posting everything. No way! Moo

 

[believe09]

If you comb comments, there are a few that indicated she was caught on social media shortly after she was arrested. When it was brought to the attention of authorities, she claimed she didnt fully understand the conditions.

Uh huh.

So she cant use that a second time...oh well, she can it would just be idiotic.

Go ahead MC, give the DA a reason to start pulling your computer and cell phone records.

 

[believe09]

Today's media answered a question I had posed recently:

The defense attorney said Carter is not attending college and her educational plans are in "a holding pattern, given the pending nature of the case."

LINK HERE

 

[iamnotagolem]

You can get a cached copy of the new twitter here:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...itter.com/michyc47_+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

I hope a jury of her peers doesn't include horny teen boys like the ones posting on twitter. uke:

 

[Lilibet]

I hope a jury of her peers doesn't include horny teen boys like the ones posting on twitter. uke:

Or the older guy taken in by Jodi Arias during the first penalty phase of her trial.
:winkkiss:

 

[Ragamuffin]

I've been following but haven't commented since early on in the thread.

IMHO IMO ONLY this chick is Tammy Moorer as a teen. I see many comparisons to Jodi Arias, but I see Tammy. She has blood on her hands no matter what the eventual legal outcome. If she goes free, I will bet all of you $50.00 she will be back in the news in the future as a poor, widowed victim after her wealthy husband dies unexpectedly/the pool boy did it.

JMO JMO JMO

 

[shefner]

My young adult son is a Air Force Veteran. Last month, on July 21...just one day before his 27th birthday, he attempted suicide. A friend contacted our daughter through Facebook...and then our daughter called us, letting us know that the friend thought something was very bad wrong since she had been texting with our youngest son and he was threatening to hurt himself.

We don't live far from his apartment...about 2 miles. My husband jumped in his truck and went flying over there. Our son cut his wrists/arms...and then tried to jump over his balcony, while my husband did his best to single-handedly hold onto him until authorities could arrive for help. After they put our son in the ambulance, my husband rushed home to pick me up so we could go to the hospital together. He was covered in our son's blood. I can't even explain what that feels like. To be truthful, I was numb all over...the incident seemed surreal as it was unfolding.

The pain and agony of that day will forever be with me. Fortunately, after a few days in the VA hospital plus some medication adjustments our son was acting much more like himself. After his release, he was able to stay in his apartment by himself but he was very thoughtful of our concerns. He called several times a day to check in with us and came to see us each evening to let us know he was feeling better. Still, our son has rough days and we are always on edge.

I can't imagine what I would do if someone cheered him on to take his life.....I might be out of mind enough to kill someone! Of course, that is not the right approach at all. But I can only imagine the pain that Conrad's family is feeling, even now. I am sure they have immense sadness, loss and a palpable sense of anger.

What infuriates me is how this the girl's parents have defended her! How dare they?! (And her lawyer...ugh! But of course, that is his job.) The only feeling worse than having a son who is deceased would be the feeling that girl's parents should experience. How shameful! They should be ostracized from their community indefinitely. I can't imagine if SHE was my child....and I had to live with what she did. I pray she dreams of Conrad every night..and her parents as well. That would be hell on earth.

 

[PandaJ]

My young adult son is a Air Force Veteran. Last month, on July 21...just one day before his 27th birthday, he attempted suicide. A friend contacted our daughter through Facebook...and then our daughter called us, letting us know that the friend thought something was very bad wrong since she had been texting with our youngest son and he was threatening to hurt himself.

We don't live far from his apartment...about 2 miles. My husband jumped in his truck and went flying over there. Our son cut his wrists/arms...and then tried to jump over his balcony, while my husband did his best to single-handedly hold onto him until authorities could arrive for help. After they put our son in the ambulance, my husband rushed home to pick me up so we could go to the hospital together. He was covered in our son's blood. I can't even explain what that feels like. To be truthful, I was numb all over...the incident seemed surreal as it was unfolding.

The pain and agony of that day will forever be with me. Fortunately, after a few days in the VA hospital plus some medication adjustments our son was acting much more like himself. After his release, he was able to stay in his apartment by himself but he was very thoughtful of our concerns. He called several times a day to check in with us and came to see us each evening to let us know he was feeling better. Still, our son has rough days and we are always on edge.

I can't imagine what I would do if someone cheered him on to take his life.....I might be out of mind enough to kill someone! Of course, that is not the right approach at all. But I can only imagine the pain that Conrad's family is feeling, even now. I am sure they have immense sadness, loss and a palpable sense of anger.

What infuriates me is how this the girl's parents have defended her! How dare they?! (And her lawyer...ugh! But of course, that is his job.) The only feeling worse than having a son who is deceased would be the feeling that girl's parents should experience. How shameful! They should be ostracized from their community indefinitely. I can't imagine if SHE was my child....and I had to live with what she did. I pray she dreams of Conrad every night..and her parents as well. That would be hell on earth.

Wow, I am so sorry you went through all that. Thank you for sharing your story and your perspective on what it's like to hear about this case from someone who's been through it. The Thank You button wasn't enough.

 

[Lilibet]

I'm sending hugs to your family! I can't imagine going through this. Thankfully, your son has a friend who cared enough to reach out to get him help...just in time...unlike Conrad, who relied on Michelle. Thank you for sharing your perspective. I wish Michelle's parents could read it...and have empathy. Is that too much to ask? Apparently it is. All the best to you.

My young adult son is a Air Force Veteran. Last month, on July 21...just one day before his 27th birthday, he attempted suicide. A friend contacted our daughter through Facebook...and then our daughter called us, letting us know that the friend thought something was very bad wrong since she had been texting with our youngest son and he was threatening to hurt himself.

We don't live far from his apartment...about 2 miles. My husband jumped in his truck and went flying over there. Our son cut his wrists/arms...and then tried to jump over his balcony, while my husband did his best to single-handedly hold onto him until authorities could arrive for help. After they put our son in the ambulance, my husband rushed home to pick me up so we could go to the hospital together. He was covered in our son's blood. I can't even explain what that feels like. To be truthful, I was numb all over...the incident seemed surreal as it was unfolding.

The pain and agony of that day will forever be with me. Fortunately, after a few days in the VA hospital plus some medication adjustments our son was acting much more like himself. After his release, he was able to stay in his apartment by himself but he was very thoughtful of our concerns. He called several times a day to check in with us and came to see us each evening to let us know he was feeling better. Still, our son has rough days and we are always on edge.

I can't imagine what I would do if someone cheered him on to take his life.....I might be out of mind enough to kill someone! Of course, that is not the right approach at all. But I can only imagine the pain that Conrad's family is feeling, even now. I am sure they have immense sadness, loss and a palpable sense of anger.

What infuriates me is how this the girl's parents have defended her! How dare they?! (And her lawyer...ugh! But of course, that is his job.) The only feeling worse than having a son who is deceased would be the feeling that girl's parents should experience. How shameful! They should be ostracized from their community indefinitely. I can't imagine if SHE was my child....and I had to live with what she did. I pray she dreams of Conrad every night..and her parents as well. That would be hell on earth.

 

[zoey]

My young adult son is a Air Force Veteran. Last month, on July 21...just one day before his 27th birthday, he attempted suicide. A friend contacted our daughter through Facebook...and then our daughter called us, letting us know that the friend thought something was very bad wrong since she had been texting with our youngest son and he was threatening to hurt himself.

We don't live far from his apartment...about 2 miles. My husband jumped in his truck and went flying over there. Our son cut his wrists/arms...and then tried to jump over his balcony, while my husband did his best to single-handedly hold onto him until authorities could arrive for help. After they put our son in the ambulance, my husband rushed home to pick me up so we could go to the hospital together. He was covered in our son's blood. I can't even explain what that feels like. To be truthful, I was numb all over...the incident seemed surreal as it was unfolding.

The pain and agony of that day will forever be with me. Fortunately, after a few days in the VA hospital plus some medication adjustments our son was acting much more like himself. After his release, he was able to stay in his apartment by himself but he was very thoughtful of our concerns. He called several times a day to check in with us and came to see us each evening to let us know he was feeling better. Still, our son has rough days and we are always on edge.

I can't imagine what I would do if someone cheered him on to take his life.....I might be out of mind enough to kill someone! Of course, that is not the right approach at all. But I can only imagine the pain that Conrad's family is feeling, even now. I am sure they have immense sadness, loss and a palpable sense of anger.

What infuriates me is how this the girl's parents have defended her! How dare they?! (And her lawyer...ugh! But of course, that is his job.) The only feeling worse than having a son who is deceased would be the feeling that girl's parents should experience. How shameful! They should be ostracized from their community indefinitely. I can't imagine if SHE was my child....and I had to live with what she did. I pray she dreams of Conrad every night..and her parents as well. That would be hell on earth.

Went thru a similar situation a year ago 9-6 with my DH---I have heard some of the most ridiculous statements from people. His older questioned why he didn't shoot himself (don't own guns--he had his fill of them in Vietnam) to other really stupid idiotic things.

I was in Georgia helping my sister when all help broke loose at my home. That said when I didn't get satisfactory responses from him I notified police -- I just can't imagine why someone wouldn't notify anyone.

When my DD was in 1 or 2nd grade one boy she was friends with told her he wanted to die--she told me,I told teachers. I just don't get it.

 

[Lilibet]

Hugs to you and yours too! And kudos for telling the teacher. Poor little kid!

It's mind-blowing to think of not notifying someone. One time a woman I had taken art lessons from showed up unexpectedly at my door to give me something. There was something kind of "off" during our conversation, and the more I thought about it after she left, I felt like she was saying "Goodbye." I knew she struggled with depression and a bad relationship, but we weren't close enough for her to really confide in me. After angsting about it, I called someone who knew her much better and told her my concerns. It turned out fine, and I felt like an idiot, but I couldn't have lived with myself if I something had happened to her and I hadn't gone with my instinct to have someone check on her. It's just the decent thing to do!

And it's obviously not something that Michelle's parents think is necessary! There is no way I would defend my child. I would be crawling on my knees to beg forgiveness of Conrad's family, and if they wanted to sue me, no contest. JMO

Went thru a similar situation a year ago 9-6 with my DH---I have heard some of the most ridiculous statements from people. His older questioned why he didn't shoot himself (don't own guns--he had his fill of them in Vietnam) to other really stupid idiotic things.

I was in Georgia helping my sister when all help broke loose at my home. That said when I didn't get satisfactory responses from him I notified police -- I just can't imagine why someone wouldn't notify anyone.

When my DD was in 1 or 2nd grade one boy she was friends with told her he wanted to die--she told me,I told teachers. I just don't get it.

 

[Hope4More]

OMG! That's horrible! There should be consequences for sequence of events caused by vile people.

Just saw this story for the 1st time. OMG, what an evil monster she is!!

There needs to be some kind of non - LE system to keep track psychopathic predators like this one. Sounds like she's going to be completely free sooner rather than later....

 

[cece5300]

My young adult son is a Air Force Veteran. Last month, on July 21...just one day before his 27th birthday, he attempted suicide. A friend contacted our daughter through Facebook...and then our daughter called us, letting us know that the friend thought something was very bad wrong since she had been texting with our youngest son and he was threatening to hurt himself.

We don't live far from his apartment...about 2 miles. My husband jumped in his truck and went flying over there. Our son cut his wrists/arms...and then tried to jump over his balcony, while my husband did his best to single-handedly hold onto him until authorities could arrive for help. After they put our son in the ambulance, my husband rushed home to pick me up so we could go to the hospital together. He was covered in our son's blood. I can't even explain what that feels like. To be truthful, I was numb all over...the incident seemed surreal as it was unfolding.

The pain and agony of that day will forever be with me. Fortunately, after a few days in the VA hospital plus some medication adjustments our son was acting much more like himself. After his release, he was able to stay in his apartment by himself but he was very thoughtful of our concerns. He called several times a day to check in with us and came to see us each evening to let us know he was feeling better. Still, our son has rough days and we are always on edge.

I can't imagine what I would do if someone cheered him on to take his life.....I might be out of mind enough to kill someone! Of course, that is not the right approach at all. But I can only imagine the pain that Conrad's family is feeling, even now. I am sure they have immense sadness, loss and a palpable sense of anger.

What infuriates me is how this the girl's parents have defended her! How dare they?! (And her lawyer...ugh! But of course, that is his job.) The only feeling worse than having a son who is deceased would be the feeling that girl's parents should experience. How shameful! They should be ostracized from their community indefinitely. I can't imagine if SHE was my child....and I had to live with what she did. I pray she dreams of Conrad every night..and her parents as well. That would be hell on earth.

Oh, I'm so sorry this happened to you and that your family had to experience this I am so glad your son has friends and siblings and parents who care so much and who helped him through. Praying for you all and your son that he continues to feel better. Also, thank him for his service. My daddy is retired Air Force. It's hard to imagine what our service members go through..

 

[Steleheart]

Just saw this story for the 1st time. OMG, what an evil monster she is!!

There needs to be some kind of non - LE system to keep track psychopathic predators like this one. Sounds like she's going to be completely free sooner rather than later....

Non-LE? why? IMO it needs to absolutely be LE - JAIL - Life in Prison Without the Possibility of Parole!


:cow:

 

[Steleheart]

My young adult son is a Air Force Veteran. Last month, on July 21...just one day before his 27th birthday, he attempted suicide. A friend contacted our daughter through Facebook...and then our daughter called us, letting us know that the friend thought something was very bad wrong since she had been texting with our youngest son and he was threatening to hurt himself.
We don't live far from his apartment...about 2 miles. My husband jumped in his truck and went flying over there. Our son cut his wrists/arms...and then tried to jump over his balcony, while my husband did his best to single-handedly hold onto him until authorities could arrive for help. After they put our son in the ambulance, my husband rushed home to pick me up so we could go to the hospital together. He was covered in our son's blood. I can't even explain what that feels like. To be truthful, I was numb all over...the incident seemed surreal as it was unfolding.

The pain and agony of that day will forever be with me. Fortunately, after a few days in the VA hospital plus some medication adjustments our son was acting much more like himself. After his release, he was able to stay in his apartment by himself but he was very thoughtful of our concerns. He called several times a day to check in with us and came to see us each evening to let us know he was feeling better. Still, our son has rough days and we are always on edge.

I can't imagine what I would do if someone cheered him on to take his life.....I might be out of mind enough to kill someone! Of course, that is not the right approach at all. But I can only imagine the pain that Conrad's family is feeling, even now. I am sure they have immense sadness, loss and a palpable sense of anger.

What infuriates me is how this the girl's parents have defended her! How dare they?! (And her lawyer...ugh! But of course, that is his job.) The only feeling worse than having a son who is deceased would be the feeling that girl's parents should experience. How shameful! They should be ostracized from their community indefinitely. I can't imagine if SHE was my child....and I had to live with what she did. I pray she dreams of Conrad every night..and her parents as well. That would be hell on earth.

So very very sorry for your pain.

So BBM : you then, more than most, very well know what a different outcome would have been, if Michelle Carter had simply called Conrad's Mom.

And how thankful Conrad may be today.

"cow:

 

[Lilibet]

Just saw this story for the 1st time. OMG, what an evil monster she is!!

There needs to be some kind of non - LE system to keep track psychopathic predators like this one. Sounds like she's going to be completely free sooner rather than later....

Non-LE? why? IMO it needs to absolutely be LE - JAIL - Life in Prison Without the Possibility of Parole!
:cow:

I think Hope may be talking about a website with information about these predators once they are released from jail. Getting LWOP is preferable, but we all know it won't happen. Perhaps there needs to be a registry for life, like there is for sex offenders. At least you could look people up on it. JMO

 

[Steleheart]

I think Hope may be talking about a website with information about these predators once they are released from jail. Getting LWOP is preferable, but we all know it won't happen. Perhaps there needs to be a registry for life, like there is for sex offenders. At least you could look people up on it. JMO

Well I can see that, but speaking of sex offenders there needs to be a robbery and murderer registry as well. Why do we insist that the perverts register but not the killers and burglars? Are killers so much more acceptable than pervs?

:cow:

 

[Steleheart]

As usual, South Coast Today has the most complete coverage of today's hearing: (imo)



LINK HERE

"Judge Foley told prosecutors at the brief court session to go ahead with their plans to subpoena Twitter for any information related to the case and to then come back to court."
"Flynn said the DA's office is subpoenaing Twitter to obtain the "IP address" of the new Twitter page and then will seek a search warrant to find the location of the IP address."


IMO they should have subpoenaed and gotten search warrants ahead of time. It's not that hard. It's harder to shoot yourself in the foot this way. They had probable cause just by the similarity to search her electronics and get an affidavit for Twitter.

IMO the DA is gonna screw this up.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Don't let Michelle fool you. She is the angel of death. I hope she never has kids.