MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #21 Retrial

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  • #461
There is also something called “Exigent circumstances” that in emergency situations permit law enforcement to conduct a warrantless search. Going back to finding a body on my front yard and after LE banging on my door I refused entry it's possibe this exception to the fourth amendment would have been used to enter my house.JMOO

Exactly ! IMO, the 'Thin Blue Line' was actively covered with an Iron Dome like protection. This was activated somewhere in the 2-3 am hour of 1/29/22. (See Butt dial info.) By 6 am, when JOK's body was discovered, Jen McCabe, ( Of the butt dial crew) and Brian Albert and Brian Higgins were well ahead of the 'dome'. Albert never came out of his home, the address of the incident was wrongly transcribed as 32 Fairview, instead of 34 Fairview initially. Brian Alberts name was mis-represented initially also on record. By the time Proctor gets his lazy but to the scene, he has been well informed of the 'cover' of the thin blue line.
See Proctors' " Nope".......He's a Boston Cop too" text to his buddies later that evening.
They all were covering Albert's involvement. Whatever that may have been

There is so much more....
 
  • #462
The EMT 2 days ago revisited his terminology of them being “furrows,” and when asked to explain what furrows meant he said it meant bodily tissue had been removed. That indicates a deeper injury more than abrasions.
That’s not what was said by the MEDICAL EXAMINER
 
  • #463

KAREN READ: What Happened To The Video Footage?​


In today’s video, we dive into the latest cross-examination of Trooper Michael Proctor in the Karen Read trial — and let’s just say, it’s not a good look for him. From missing Ring videos to sticky notes that somehow "slipped his mind," the defense paints a picture of a case officer who either can't do his job or didn't want to. We break down how Proctor's own admissions are unraveling the Commonwealth’s narrative piece by piece. Buckle up — it’s a wild one.

This alone is suspect....why were JK's ring videos deleted?
Ask Karen
 
  • #464
The Police and co-workers, ambulance and friends were outside on the lawn in the morning. The homeowner did not come out.
The homeowner was exhausted and asleep
 
  • #465
IMO by the time Proctor takes the stand, I have a feeling the jury is gonna think he was rude & inappropriate but SPOT ON in his evaluation on who killed John
Well, imagine one of the EMTs or doctor or nurse who attended to Karen that day.
Imagine they texted their friends, family and supervisor within hours to say:
  • She's a whack job c**t
  • I hope she kills herself
  • She has a balloon knot
  • She poos herself
  • She's a babe but has no 🤬🤬🤬
  • Checking her phone and "no nudes yet"
Imagine those same professionals didn't perform a proper medical assessment on KR that day because they had already deemed her guilty of killing the guy that just died in the next clinical room, who they know is a cop.

And imagine those same medical personnel went drinking while in control of an ambulance or other hospital vehicle while on duty with the brother of one of the people involved in her case.

It sounds ridiculous doesn't it?

Proctor was entrusted to conduct himself as a professional investigator, and he failed miserably.

The jury will surely see him for what he is.

MOO
 
  • #466
Well, imagine one of the EMTs or doctor or nurse who attended to Karen that day.
Imagine they texted their friends, family and supervisor within hours to say:
  • She's a whack job c**t
  • I hope she kills herself
  • She has a balloon knot
  • She poos herself
  • She's a babe but has no 🤬🤬🤬
  • Checking her phone and "no nudes yet"
Imagine those same professionals didn't perform a proper medical assessment on KR that day because they had already deemed her guilty of killing the guy that just died in the next clinical room, who they know is a cop.

And imagine those same medical personnel went drinking while in control of an ambulance or other hospital vehicle while on duty with the brother of one of the people involved in her case.

It sounds ridiculous doesn't it?

Proctor was entrusted to conduct himself as a professional investigator, and he failed miserably.

The jury will surely see him for what he is.

MOO
what is a balloon knot? what do they mean? mOO
 
  • #467
The first witness was on for an hour just to document what KR's blood test showed. Was it even in question that she had been drinking the night before? I thought she said she was drinking. Feels like the jury might be bored a long time ago.
Not only that, but KR could have been drinking when she got back to John's too. Or even in the morning when she woke up. I don't know if that was ever brought up?
 
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The same could be said for JOK though. JOK was a handsome, tall, muscular man with a nice smile that some might say was very attractive. Should we think about him as only being supported due to his good looks? Of course not! He doesn't have an advantage due to his looks. His death is being prosecuted (defended) because he died at the hands of someone else.

IMO KR is being supported because she has been charged with crimes that do not make logical sense to many people, and the charges need to be proven to be believed. Imagine all the people who've felt wronged by police actions in the past, whether in MA or elsewhere, prosecuted for something they felt they were not responsible, or overcharged, or a case built that was considered unfair. Imagine if the same police who arrested you or investigated your case are somehow "participants" or connected to your "crime" but face zero consequences.

I believe that is why she's garnered so much attention in this case. People can absolutely relate to her situation.

MOO.
Great points. And for crying out loud, I think there is a group of supporters who must have also just looked at those symmetrical arm wounds on JOK's unbroken arm and the undamaged state of his body elsewhere below the neck and known there was something seriously amiss here.

There is just no way the wounds could have been caused by a tail light impacting the arm with the force required to break it into 47 pieces including shattering into some very small bits. Yet the arm is not broken. Impossible. Moo

I consider this as proven BARD at the last trial. The persecution is pulling the wool over the public's eyes. '",Look the other way". Ridiculous. Jmo
 
  • #470
Zero? I guarantee if someone was dropped off at my house for a party and they ended up bloodied and bruised on my front lawn, the cops would get a warrant….. but I’m not a cop who is friends with the investigators.
You are so right. But why would they just put him in front of the house like an advertisement….I would think they’d come up with a better idea to cover up if that’s what really happened …
Alcohol should be on trial here too imo.

We all analyze everybody else involved in this tradegy but the defendant, as though they were all stone cold sober logical people. They were not.
A "guy" has been dropped off at your house for a party. Something goes awry unexpectedly, everybody is pretty well hammered and instead of making the right choice to immed dial 911 ( alcohol clouding your judgement) - you don't.
What seems like a good idea while drunk - usually isn't.

Maybe they put him in the street bc at the time they thought it would look like he got hit with the plow, or that he fell while trying to walk home... who knows what their drunk minds were thinking.

I guess it bears repeating until the cows come home, because of the quality of the investigation - very subpar - we are all left to fill in the blanks.
John could have hit his head on his very own - but then nobody saw John there on the lawn so there is a little wrinkle there. And we still have the dog ravaged arm - the wounds on his arm are in a position where while standing they would be defensive wounds as the dog jumped up on him. But the owners contend that Chloe was never in the front yard.

Everywhere you turn with this case there is inconsistency and contradiction.

The witness statements were all taken seemingly together so you lost any nuance there. And there has been so much obfuscation - getting rid of phones, butt dials galore while people are sleeping - it goes on and on. And of course ARCCA who at the first trial was the gold standard for me about whether John was hit by a vehicle or not. Their testimoney is well worth watching IMO. They testified that John was not hit by any Vehicle.

We will have to see how this trial goes - we have not gotten into the meat of anything - but from the evidence I know, I strongly believe that the charges cannot be proven Beyond A Reasonable Doubt. No matter what any of us "think" happened.

JMO
 
  • #471
Another instance is going at the paramedic for saying sitting there instead of lying there, which was clearly a turn of phrase and everyone knew John was lying down. I doubt anyone took it literally and thought 'oh did she think John was sitting up for hours?' or even noticed the discrepancy.
Did it occur to you that if the paramedic had actually heard her say she saw John sitting there, then that would change the direction of the investigation? The way she found John positioned that morning matters. Some people are under the impression that the defense is spinning details and yet those little details could actually help solve this case IMO.
 
  • #472
I thought that JMc DID go into the house minutes after finding JO - as seen from the patrol car camera (dash cam). IIRC, D pointed this out in Trial 1 - while KR was walking back and forth and EMTs working on JO, JMc slipped away from the scene and walked into the house. Correct me if I’m wrong here!
She did! And they knew that their “friend” was dead on their front lawn, and they still didn’t go outside! Who does that?!! Just like Jen calling him some man is dead on the lawn in her 911 call. Why didn’t she say my dear friend who is also LE? Their actions speak loudly - talk about conscience of guilt
 
  • #473
Well, imagine one of the EMTs or doctor or nurse who attended to Karen that day.
Imagine they texted their friends, family and supervisor within hours to say:
  • She's a whack job c**t
  • I hope she kills herself
  • She has a balloon knot
  • She poos herself
  • She's a babe but has no 🤬🤬🤬
  • Checking her phone and "no nudes yet"
Imagine those same professionals didn't perform a proper medical assessment on KR that day because they had already deemed her guilty of killing the guy that just died in the next clinical room, who they know is a cop.

And imagine those same medical personnel went drinking while in control of an ambulance or other hospital vehicle while on duty with the brother of one of the people involved in her case.

It sounds ridiculous doesn't it?

Proctor was entrusted to conduct himself as a professional investigator, and he failed miserably.

The jury will surely see him for what he is.

MOO
Imagine investigating a case so simple of a hit & run.
Results in a dead cop.
That the cop is your friend.

I don’t know anyone that would speak kindly of the defendant.
 
  • #474
Also, as a matter of record, I completely believe the CW’s own expert that figured out the key strokes - the “backing up at over 20 mph” happened while in police custody!

Let us also realize that he had throw up down his jeans. Do you think he would have walked in to a party like that?! The pinpoint holes in his shirt prove it wasn’t the taillight.
 
  • #475
Ohhhh yessssss. Door to door, never mind ON THE DOOR of the house he was found laying on their lawn. JMC telling the cop there whatever she was telling him. We'll never know that. Filling his ear, but sure she must of said that he was expected at that house but never came in. ALL very composed mind you, in her call to 911 and in general. Didn't seem to even play act shock and horrah at all.
On the vids from LE, it seems instead of going to she sister's house and waking them up (especially BA being a first responder), or staying by medics working on JOK, Jen was busy talking to LE, a lot..... I wonder what she initially told them.

WHY didnt JenMC run to get BA, she KNEW he was first responder. BA could have been there in 2-3 minutes.
 
  • #476
Imagine investigating a case so simple of a hit & run.
Results in a dead cop.
That the cop is your friend.

I don’t know anyone that would speak kindly of the defendant.
Nobody's expecting him to speak kindly, but they are expecting a degree of professionalism which he seemed to be incapable of, hence him no longer being employed.

MOO
 
  • #477
The EMT 2 days ago revisited his terminology of them being “furrows,” and when asked to explain what furrows meant he said it meant bodily tissue had been removed. That indicates a deeper injury more than abrasions.
Yes, they are deep, symmetrical scratch like wounds for the most part. I'm looking forward to hearing the defense experts in due course. And AJ's cross of cw's 'expert', and best of all defense's expert rebuttal of the cw.
 
  • #478
The US Attorney's Office and the FBI Investigation are responsible for ARCCA entering this case but what most may not know (news to me) is that the ARCCA Independent Investigation Report came to the defense in a 3,000 page reciprocal discovery document dump from the CW.

In other words, the very ARCCA investigation report citing scientific data that JOK was not killed by a collision with KR's Lexus was first provided to the CW, and they not only chose to ignore this very important information, but they then fought to keep the defense from using ARCCA and their investigation/test results as defense expert witnesses during the first trial!

(The ARCCA information was kept from being disclosed and/or discoverable to the parties under a federal protection order until just before the first trial). See KR Interview w/Ted Daniels linked below. Begins about minute marker 19:00 to 29:00.

And here we are a year later, and it's deja vu where the CW is again fighting to keep the defense from using ARCCA as their expert witness by mandating the firm turn over a seemingly unlimited data sweep to the Court (Order 683) and be subjected to another voir dire hearing during the ongoing retrial. "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark" JMO...
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Karen Read tells her story in exclusive one-on-one interview: The extended cut​

IMO, the ARCAA testimony is the biggest fear of the CW. The judge I'm afraid will find a way to reject it. A shame on Massachusett.
 
  • #479
He called her, Leaky Balloon Knot.

A balloon knot refers to her anus

He called a cop killer names.

IMO

That is the most unprofessional excuse I can even imagine.

No matter what he “thought” happened that night, he had a responsibility and a duty to investigate every angle! Not have blinders on and walk in a straight line. When the CW received the FBI report, they also had a responsibility to investigate. Not once did any of these so-called professionals do their duty or keep an open mind! That would scare me to death if I lived in their jurisdiction. They did not follow any proper protocol.

It sickens me that someone would defend his actions for any reason at all. You can think she is guilty and still know that he was wrong in every aspect of the word.
 
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Had Karen Read that morning demanded to know WHAT HAPPENED because she SAW HIM ENTER THAT HOUSE - a warrant would be justified.
She did not.


IMO

For example.
 
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