MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #21 Retrial

[RatFace]

I’ll gladly admit I’m a little confused on the latest regarding JOK and the cell phone. Is it possible the phone may have been dropped outside? I can’t remember where it was found. Or has there already been testimony in either trial as to whether the phone remained with him the entire evening? I thought it was found in some odd location and in the fallen snow? But I might not be accurate on that. MOO

The phone was found underneath his body, which was near the flagpole.

 

[clearskies1]

Re Signal: I think Wolfe said that he used Signal to communicate with Jackson in March 2025, that he (Wolfe) has never used that encrypted app to communicate on any of his other cases, and that Jackson said it was his preferred method of communication. I think March is when they had a hearing about the ARCCA invoice for the first trial, and possibly there were other ARCCA related hearings that month as well. JMO.

 

[Bodhi]

AJ seemed to be refusing to look at Karen Read today, even when she talks to him. He looks very annoyed. IMO

Ooh, he does look annoyed. I tend to listen rather than watch so I didn't notice a change in demeanor. He could have been annoyed about questions or answers and not with Karen herself. But putting his body language together with not acknowledging Karen when she spoke to him, I agree with your assessment.

 

[detectivewannab]

What did Dr. Wolfe have on his resume that was not true?

 

[pcrum12]

What did Dr. Wolfe have on his resume that was not true?

I think he stated at first trial that he testified in around 20 cases when in reality he testified in 10-11 and did deposition or something in 7-8 others (not at trial)

 

[LvsAMystry]

I think he stated at first trial that he testified in around 20 cases when in reality he testified in 10-11 and did deposition or something in 7-8 others (not at trial)

A deposition technically is testimony. Maybe he didn’t know the question at trial 1 meant only in court testimony. He misunderstood the question maybe. Unintentional (like KerryR)!

 

[SteveS]

I think he stated at first trial that he testified in around 20 cases when in reality he testified in 10-11 and did deposition or something in 7-8 others (not at trial)

If those are the facts that they wanted to quibble about, it's incredibly nitpicky to think that's something to make an issue about, or that it would somehow matter. Giving a deposition (which is testimony, for the record, of his findings) is testifying, and 11+8 =19, which fits "about 20" to a tee. Laughable point to be pursuing, really.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

A deposition technically is testimony. Maybe he didn’t know the question at trial 1 meant only in court testimony. He misunderstood the question maybe. Unintentional (like KerryR)!

Ding ding ding. Once again, rules for the defense and their witnesses, but not for the CW…

 

[lohrtabitha]

Proctor being fired has given the defense even more ammunition. That opening statement referred to him so many times, especially since he was fired because of his behaviour on this case. The biggest wildcard here is the judge. She is so partial to the CW in my opinion. A loose Cannone, pardon the expression

Yes and in my opinion I can't believe that she was practically allowing Brennan to yell at Wolfe. I feel that her not taking a hold of that, was very impartial and is her job to control the tone in that courtroom! I truly felt bad for Wolfe. She really should have rescinded and let a judge with fresh eyes take over this case. MOO

 

[Hejejej]

Do we know if anyone’s looked into street view/google maps to fact check the elevation that caused the stair data? (Like if there are actually any hills on the route where they claim it happened) Thanks.

 

[Wishbone]

I think he stated at first trial that he testified in around 20 cases when in reality he testified in 10-11 and did deposition or something in 7-8 others (not at trial)

oh horror

 

[Wishbone]

If those are the facts that they wanted to quibble about, it's incredibly nitpicky to think that's something to make an issue about, or that it would somehow matter. Giving a deposition (which is testimony, for the record, of his findings) is testifying, and 11+8 =19, which fits "about 20" to a tee. Laughable point to be pursuing, really.

And some posters on here are calling Dr Wolfe a liar on that basis. Completely uncalled for. JMOO

 

[Forest_Wood]

So, the Celebrite guy, under cross states that the phone locked for the final time at 12:32:09, by the side button being pressed. Then 7 seconds after the phone locked, the health data shows at 12:32:16, 7 seconds after the phone locked, there were 36 steps taken in 25 meters or 84 feet. 84 feet! So, it's not looking as if he stepped out of the car and immediately got hit by a vehicle.
AND, how did KR get back to JOK's house at 12:36 (4 minutes).

 

[Forest_Wood]

Dr Wolfe is very well-spoken. He is making Brennan sound ridiculous in his questions. He made it very clear he is a salaried employee with ARCCA. Just seeing the looks on his face shows how ridiculous he thinks Brennan's questions are.
"I have no idea when I deleted texts Sir. I just told you I deleted texts."
"This was at no time during the first trial did we use Signal".
No agreement to be compensated for costs or time.
As for if he knew he was getting paid, "I'm a salaried employee so it doesn't matter to me, I'm sure our boss would like us to get paid".
Dr Wolfe made Brennan look very silly.
Brennan grasping at straws.

 

[Linda7NJ]

And some posters on here are calling Dr Wolfe a liar on that basis. Completely uncalled for.

Gave the defense pointers on what to ask

Still have not turned over the discovery

Signal chats - claims he didn’t know it was encrypted -lol



All IMO

 

[Linda7NJ]

And some posters on here are calling Dr Wolfe a liar on that basis. Completely uncalled for. JMOO

He knew he testified falsely.
He decided not to inform the court and correct his testimony.
He did decide to tell the defense, who also didn’t bother to correct the record.

So even if it was accidentally, the intentional decision to let it stand = perjury.

All IMO

 

[lohrtabitha]

Mr Wolfe is very well-spoken. He is making Brennan sound ridiculous in his questions. He made it very clear he is a salaried employee with ARCCA. Just seeing the looks on his face shows how ridiculous he thinks Brennan's questions are.

I agree with you. I thought Brennan was Jerry Lewis in the Nutty Professor today. I was about to lose my composure just listening to him go on and on today. MOO

 

[Luna20]

Just watching the documentary on Discovery+. Something seems off about her.

Who is “her”?

 

[minazoe]

Who is “her”?

I think she means Karen.

 

[justbeachy]

I think Wolfe did a great job today. I am very impressed with him overall and Brennan came across to me as unhinged and desperate in his questioning (attacking?) of him. It was very disheartening to hear that Wolfe and his family (even his children!!) have been subjected to harassment. There is absolutely no excuse for that. IMO