MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #22 Retrial

[Wishbone]

Someone should have done an experiment with the phone temp on frozen ground with an 80 degree body on it. I get what Alessi is trying to do, but I think a body on top might alter the temp drop.

Well, there was no test done for that and I'm weary of all the diversions from the issue of the car hitting JO which is the most important part of the cw case against KR. All this battery speculation is just meant to confuse. This is another distraction meant to try to cause some semblance of doubt for the jury to try to weed through. JMOO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

It’s easy to twist witnesses words and catch them off guard; however, the science and data evidence speaks for itself.

Wolfe admitted he received information about witness testimony before testifying in trial one. Testimony from Wolfe admitted to Alan's preference being to communicate through Signal. He (Wolfe) also stated not knowing that Signal app automatically deletes text. Yes, an engineer does not know this. Lol

Furthermore, apparently Alan never intended to preserve communication for discovery, as required for the case. He deliberately chose a method to hide communication, its encrypted messaging allowing for instant messaging and for voice calls, and video calls, which includes one to one users or group messaging.

Just a matter of opinion

You’re trying to turn innuendo into evidence. Let’s be real. If the prosecution had actual proof of misconduct, they’d have filed sanctions. They didn’t. That tells you everything. The prosecution’s case relies on selective narratives. Meanwhile, the defense is pointing to material issues: missing phone data, contaminated scenes, conflicted investigators, withheld discovery.
You can “lol” all you want, but you’re ignoring the rot at the core of the CW’s case.

 

[ShadyLady]

I’ve thought on that too, but either way it renders Whiffin testimony or testing extremely questionable aka in doubt

Whiffin has lost ALL credibility. He should never again be used by any court hearing or testimony. IMO

 

[Bethlamb16]

Agree. The fact that the rock was allowed to remain there while jurors were viewing the property is ridiculous

What is the deal about the rock? Why is this significant? I haven't followed this case from the beginning and would like to know the story behind the rock. Thank you.

 

[Linda7NJ]

And without slowing down for turns or weather...

It’s pretty easy to consider cause Karen Read was drunk
IMO

 

[mrjitty]

And without slowing down for turns or weather...

Is it in evidence she only drove at 30mph?

 

[Angelwatch]

I’ve thought on that too, but either way it renders Whiffin testimony or testing extremely questionable aka in doubt

For sure.

IMHO, the phone was in a basement or garage. I’m not sure how to reconcile that with the lack of movement on the phone during the night. Hoping Alessi tries to explain that.

 

[Derph]

What is the deal about the rock? Why is this significant? I haven't followed this case from the beginning and would like to know the story behind the rock. Thank you.

I just posted why there is a problem about the rock a couple of pages back.

 

[Wishbone]

What is the deal about the rock? Why is this significant? I haven't followed this case from the beginning and would like to know the story behind the rock. Thank you.

Read an explanation posted earlier in this thread # 60

 

[Derph]

This guy is getting crucified up there. Another witness for the prosecution that is ruining their credibility.

 

[Wishbone]

Is it in evidence she only drove at 30mph?

I picked 30 mph as an example and gave the time it would take to get from the fairview house to the meadows house and then asked you how fast you believed she was driving to make it there in four minutes.

 

[LvsAMystry]

How so?

I'd agree she'd have to go faster than the speed limit but it doesn't seem like she had a problem with breaking the traffic codes

Because I know the roads well so I disagree

 

[RatFace]

Look back to the previous thread. That is exactly what was suggested by some that believe KR is guilty. We are pointing out the ridiculousness of the arbitrary rules/prejudices that apply to KR’s team and witnesses, but somehow never to the CW and theirs.

Yes, I'm aware of that but didn't pick up on the sarcasm on this thread.

 

[nodamselindistress]

Hank wanted temperature testimony, Hank got temperature testimony - and Whiffin experiments with no controls. Hoping Hank is Happy (not really)!

 

[Forest_Wood]

Seems to me Dr Wolfe kept referring to the defense attorney as Alan yesterday. So they must be friends too.

Exactly what my comment is referencing. And they MUST have colluded about something as a result of being on first name basis! What’s good for the goose …

 

[LvsAMystry]

Is it in evidence she only drove at 30mph?

Is it in evidence that she didn’t? Again the defense need not prove anything but the CW does need to

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Is it in evidence she only drove at 30mph?

No, and isn’t it strange that the Commonwealth zeroed in on the alleged 24 mph reverse but didn’t analyze Karen Read’s drive home afterward? Her Lexus has telematics capable of recording speed and location. If they truly believed the car hit John, why not look at all the data? Selectively pulling what fits while ignoring the rest reeks of narrative building. MOO.

 

[Bethlamb16]

Read an explanation posted earlier in this thread # 60

Thank you. Now I get it.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Agree 100% - Take the human element out of it...and there should be little technical reason (in a perfect world) why a team from Apple/Google/Lexus couldn't wrap this case up fairly fast. But as we all know, we don't live in a perfect world, so only time will tell how this will all play out.

It is confusing. If the CW is certain she’s guilty, why would they not subpoena the companies you mentioned? MOO.

 

[Soulmagent]

You’re trying to turn innuendo into evidence. Let’s be real. If the prosecution had actual proof of misconduct, they’d have filed sanctions. They didn’t. That tells you everything. The prosecution’s case relies on selective narratives. Meanwhile, the defense is pointing to material issues: missing phone data, contaminated scenes, conflicted investigators, withheld discovery.
You can “lol” all you want, but you’re ignoring the rot at the core of the CW’s case.

This trial should not even be happening IMO.