MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #22 Retrial

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  • #801
CourtTV just said AJ has 2 more hrs cross for JM and HB has 20 mins or so
Isn't Matt M on the witness list? Maybe him next?
Need to make sure I'm home for the Proctorfest - and Higgins.
IMO.
 
  • #802
I didn't see all the testimony today, but from what I saw JM did not explain why she is now testifying that KR said I hit him, whereas she previously testified that KR asked it as a question -- Did I hit him, Could I have hit him?
 
  • #803
I didn't see all the testimony today, but from what I saw JM did not explain why she is now testifying that KR said I hit him, whereas she previously testified that KR asked it as a question -- Did I hit him, Could I have hit him?
She said ‘I know what I said then, but this is what I remember now’ and other things in that ballpark.
 
  • #804
She said ‘I know what I said then, but this is what I remember now’ and other things in that ballpark.
So she's saying her memory has changed? As a juror I would believe what she said first -- closest to the event. JMO.
 
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No one suggested Chloe was ever in the front yard during the first trial.

The Alberts' back yard was fully fenced and gated and BA testified that's where they would let her out. The front yard was not fenced at all and led directly onto a busy street. (double yellow lined street)

And again, no one sees John's body on the lawn at that time either? Just the dog? I've lost count of how many people walked by, drove by, and looked out the windows without seeing a six foot man lying there. And it's a pretty short front yard.
Yep and if MM had his high beams on (which he probably did) but JM could not remember, he is definitely going to see a body on the lawn when leaving. The fact is that there was no body there when Mccabes left the party. Moo
 
  • #807
So she's saying her memory has changed? As a juror I would believe what she said first -- closest to the event. JMO.
I totally agree. And she did not mention the ‘I hit him’ x3 phrase or that Karen was screaming over the phone in her initial comments to investigators on the scene, OR to the grand jury in April 2022. AJ went over the transcripts in a lot of detail today.
 
  • #808
I wish we had an eye roll emoji!
I literally just thought the same exact thing after reading that Jen M. said ‘I know what I said then, but this is what I remember now’
 
  • #809
I literally just thought the same exact thing after reading that Jen M. said ‘I know what I said then, but this is what I remember now’
:rolleyes: <--- I may or may not have used this before.
IMO, as always.
 
  • #810
AJ is considered one of the top
criminal defense attorneys in the country, and JM is not only holding her own but
calling him out for every trick.
 
  • #811
AJ is considered one of the top
criminal defense attorneys in the country, and JM is not only holding her own but
calling him out for every trick.
The only reason she is hanging in there is due to Her Honor's blatant disdain for the defense.
JM had LOTS of assists from the bench today.
IMO.
 
  • #812
The only reason she is hanging in there is due to Her Honor's blatant disdain for the defense.
JM had LOTS of assists from the bench today.
IMO.
They are on the same side is very apparent. IMO
 
  • #813
AJ wad trying to get the location of the vehicles that Jen saw outside. She has already said the jeep was in front of the mailbox and Karen’s Lexus was in front of it.

Now, all of a sudden, while talking about Nagels truck, she doesn’t want to say Higgins jeep was in front of the mailbox.

Why doesn’t she want to mention the jeep now?
😂🤣😅🥴☺️😂
 
  • #814
I see your confusion,
The taillight break video was right as KR left back out FROM JOK's house after she went back to care for his niece , On a camera from JOK's house. There is no video from the Albert's yard. Hope that helps, and that I am remembering correct.

Not sure if you saw my response but can you please explain what you meant here? TIA
 
  • #815
Clearly the witness JMc is upset hearing the 911 call, the defendant not so much.

Alan grilling the witness. Bet the jury is asking why the aggression on this witness. Just like he grilled and attacked the victim’s in the Harvey Weinstein case.

Jackson’s cross of JMc uneventful. Its normal behavior to support each other when two people have experienced the same tragic event. It’s called bonding. JMc truthful, relatable person, kind and likable. It’s okay to talk about the trama experienced.

The jury already heard video footage last week of defendant saying “I know I said I hit him.” Jackson did not discredit JMc he only proved she is truthful and an outstanding witness.

Again. Jackson. Twisting words of a witness. He cant break JMc. He badgered her, but the truth cant be denied. JMC is truth, she spoke the truth. Truth doesnt change. Memories fade, but she did well and the best that she could recall. Thats all that is expected.

Congratulations, Jackson on weak cross.
Reprimanding a witness shows how weak of an “officer of the court" you really are.

Matter of opinion

Science and data are what really matter.
 
  • #816
@JHall7news


As Jackson tries to show discrepencies between her testimony today vs last year - McCabe says she’s basically saying the same thing and they are fighting over “silly words.”


2:59 PM · Apr 30, 2025
 
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  • #817
Was AJ effective enough so far in his cross ( I believe he may not be completely finished? ) to create reasonable doubt to the jury regarding JMC's testimony? Was she a credible witness? Or did AJ demolish that with her proven lies ( FBI and Grand Jury ) and manipulative behavior.
( Timeline 'story' , interviewed in a group setting, and the 5 phone calls to f&f before meeting with FBI ?

Also, AJ has not even begun to question her on the 2:27 am phone call, or the butt dials, or the erased/ deleted items found on her phone. Friday is coming, Jen
He is brilliant! By far the best defense attorney that I have witnessed in the 55 years of my life! He got JM to say that JK was not outside on the lawn. She never saw him. She could see tire tracks ,which means she has a good set of eyes , but no JK. Slam dunk baby!!!!
 
  • #818
After being told by the fbi that they wanted to interview her, JMc made 5 phone calls including: Kerry Roberts, Matt McCabe, Brian Albert, Peggy O’Keefe....Why on earth make all those phone calls if there isn’t a story to stick to?
 
  • #819
I wish AJ had tried to get more from JMC regarding the FBI's ( or "other agencies" ) visit and attempted ( but shortened) interview. It happened in Sept of 2023. By then, the defense had their own investigators working on behalf of KR. The McCabes and Alberts were well aware of the defense theory. So, why the panic? Why the calls to Kerri, Matt, Brian Albert, Peg O'Keefe and the DA's office...in ten minutes time? Sounds like something a co-conspirator would do, or someone with maybe some consciousness of guilt.?
 
  • #820
After being told by the fbi that they wanted to interview her, JMc made 5 phone calls including: Kerry Roberts, Matt McCabe, Brian Albert, Peggy O’Keefe....Why on earth make all those phone calls if there isn’t a story to stick to?

Jinx!
 
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