MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #22 Retrial

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  • #821
I wish AJ had tried to get more from JMC regarding the FBI's ( or "other agencies" ) visit and attempted ( but shortened) interview. It happened in Sept of 2023. By then, the defense had their own investigators working on behalf of KR. The McCabes and Alberts were well aware of the defense theory. So, why the panic? Why the calls to Kerri, Matt, Brian Albert, Peg O'Keefe and the DA's office...in ten minutes time? Sounds like something a co-conspirator would do, or someone with maybe some consciousness of guilt.?
Oh my goodness you are right the 5th phone call was the DA's office. 🫨
 
  • #822
Was this FBI confrontation with Jen done at or near the same time that Michael Morrisey, DA extraordinaire, went on TV and proclaimed the Alberts innocent and outstanding citizens, and Karen Read guilty?
 
  • #823
@JHall7news


As Jackson tries to show discrepencies between her testimony today vs last year - McCabe says she’s basically saying the same thing and they are fighting over “silly words.”


2:59 PM · Apr 30, 2025
I have to agree with AJ here. Words are important. Especially in court. I grew up hearing ‘be impeccable with your word.’
 
  • #824
This witness (JenMc) seems to not be able to just answer a question, but has to put her spin on every answer. I have never seen a judge allow a witness to continue on like this.
She sure seems impartial to me.
 
  • #825
AJ is considered one of the top
criminal defense attorneys in the country, and JM is not only holding her own but
calling him out for every trick.
Shes sending him back to Cali. :cool:
 
  • #826
I don't see it as such a big deal that she called people before the FBI meeting. She was clearly taken aback when the FBI walked up to her out of the blue. I would be if that happened to me. Even if she wanted to, she didn't have time to coordinate anything in the few minutes that the FBI was waiting to talk to her. Now the fact that she "forgot" to tell the FBI about everyone she called -- that's a different issue. JMO.
 
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Except for that whole lying to federal agents thing.
IMO.

...and the grand jury, and the last jury, and this jury...
 
  • #829
I didn't see all the testimony today, but from what I saw JM did not explain why she is now testifying that KR said I hit him, whereas she previously testified that KR asked it as a question -- Did I hit him, Could I have hit him?
She never explained it and dug her heels in continually - evasive evasive evasive. Things come in three right Jen?
When confronted with the transcript of her own testimony to the grand jury where she nevah mentioned it / she kept saying I don’t know if it’s in there or not yada yada yada.
Snake snake snake.
I don’t get why she included Peg in her phone calls re fbi - but since Peg wanted the timeline maybe she has a role in this farce.
JMO.
 
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It was testified earlier that the daughter took the dog with her when she left and that the dog was not there when JMC went to wake up the Alberts. I believe it was BA that testified this ... will try to find the post.
I remember BA saying Chloe sleeps in their closet and she must have been in there. I don’t ever remember any witness stating the daughter took the dog. I do remember that was speculated by a lot of us here but never testified to in court. I could have missed it? I’ll look too. I am behind in this thread so maybe I’ve missed your next post already.
JMO
 
  • #832
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  • #833
When ya think about it JM is making worldwide headlines for lying to Federal agents investigating the murder/cover up of a Boston Police officer.
Woooweeee!! Ouch!
 
  • #834
Was this FBI confrontation with Jen done at or near the same time that Michael Morrisey, DA extraordinaire, went on TV and proclaimed the Alberts innocent and outstanding citizens, and Karen Read guilty?

Answering my own posed question:


Michael Morriseys public statement regarding a pending court case
( An admittedly unprecedented move by him) was done Aug 25, 2023.

Jen McCabes FBI interview was done AFTER Michael Morrisey's statement in Sept.
 
  • #835
71% says JM not believable.
10% says she is believable.
Lol!!

 
  • #836
A hostile witness is a specific definition, and certain things (like leading the witness) become allowed once a witness is designated as hostile. Categorizing a witness as hostile (and the resulting different rules about how lawyers can treat them) is a matter of law introduced via a rule by the Supreme Court. You can read more about this in the federal rules of evidence here.

The judge decides if the witness is hostile based on the witness's actions/behavior. There isn't one specific definition written in the law, but generally agreed-upon characteristics are out there. I liked this article about it. (Final comment is that it is much more than just being angry or coming off as irritated, which is what I used to think!)

Edit because I accidentally said federal rules of engagement when I meant evidence.
Thanks for this! Interesting reading and answered a question.
 
  • #837
It was testified earlier that the daughter took the dog with her when she left and that the dog was not there when JMC went to wake up the Alberts. I believe it was BA that testified this ... will try to find the post.
I don't remember anyone admitting the dog left the house that night. Nor do I remember BA testifying to that. However, that is exactly what I would guess happened. JMOO
 
  • #838
I have to agree with AJ here. Words are important. Especially in court. I grew up hearing ‘be impeccable with your word.’
One of The Four Agreements
 
  • #839
Not sure if you saw my response but can you please explain what you meant here? TIA

The taillight break video was right as KR left back out FROM JOK's house after she went back to care for his niece , On a camera from JOK's house. There is no video from the Albert's yard. Hope that helps, and that I am remembering correct.

This is the video ,of KR backing out of John O keefs drive way just before he was found at a different house belonging to the Alberts .
EXCLUSIVE: Security Video Released in Karen Read Case
An added extra is Vinny really in his feeling during this video.

This is where the tail light is broken, you can see she hit the car pulling out of the drive way.
 
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It was testified earlier that the daughter took the dog with her when she left and that the dog was not there when JMC went to wake up the Alberts. I believe it was BA that testified this ... will try to find the post.

There was no such testimony at the last trial.

BA and Nicole said the dog was in a closet when fire, police, ambulance and Jen McCabe were running all over the yard and home (in Jen's case). So Chloe didn't bark and they all kept sleeping peacefully until Jen burst into their bedroom.

Not that I believe any of this. Strains credulity to the breaking point, IMO.
 
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