MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #23 Retrial

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So just to be clear, JM previously testified in trial 1 that she did not visit 34 Fairview in between One Meadows (Johns house) and Mike Lenks house on 1/30/22. However, GPS data disproves that.

Jen says ‘I never stopped by, we drove by slowly.’ Ok Jen.
Her explanation of "stopping by" meaning something more like, stopping... getting out... going in... vs. driving by to look at the crime scene is pretty understandable. I bet many here have done it.

Trying to impeach her over not remember the minute-by-minute details of a drive she made 3+ years ago is certainly a strategy, but I doubt it's going to resonate much with the jury.
 
  • #122
At 5:12, JM left One Meadows. At 5:21, she arrived at her address at Country lane. At 5:28, she then left her home and arrived at 34 Fairview at 5:36 and stayed for at least 4 minutes. She left Fairview at 5:40 and arrived at Mike Lenks at 5:43.

WHAT WAS SHE DOING AT 34 FAIRVIEW? Removing evidence?
 
  • #123
She said they flipped him over.
So, he WAS found on his stomach then? KerR said she wiped the fallen snow off his face and only then did she recognize him.
 
  • #124
You don't need to be a particularly talented driver to manage 40mph on empty suburban roads in a powerful late model lexus. IMO

In any event, it's clearly well within the bounds of what is possible.
I have to disagree with your assertion. All cars will experience reduced traction and handling on slick, snow-covered roads, some better than others but to think a car is not affected by these conditions would be foolish. JMOO
 
  • #125
Her explanation of "stopping by" meaning something more like, stopping... getting out... going in... vs. driving by to look at the crime scene is pretty understandable. I bet many here have done it.

Trying to impeach her over not remember the minute-by-minute details of a drive she made 3+ years ago is certainly a strategy, but I doubt it's going to resonate much with the jury.
I think it absolutely will. He’s highlighting her own inconsistencies in her sworn testimonies, not just asking her about random things from 3 years ago. She swore to all this. And there’s MAJOR ‘forgetfulness’ happening in her part.
 
  • #126
How can anyone think these people didn’t have something to do with a coverup? Major collusion happening.
This is a major blow for the CW. No words except wtaf...colluding happened. Omg.
 
  • #127
In May 2024 (trial 1) JM testified that they went from One Meadows directly to Mike Lenks’ (Canton PD) residence. She indicated they were there to drop off one of Kerry’s daughters.

But on May 10, 2024, before her actual testimony, JM indicated that they went to the Lenk residence with Kerry Roberts to pick up her daughter at the residence, not to drop her off. AJ led her down a path - ‘So did officer Lenk make an incorrect report?’

JM says ML mixed up pick up and drop off. Lots of errors between Lenk and Proctor, apparently.
And the GJ too! Everyone but her got it wrong.
 
  • #128
So, he WAS found on his stomach then? KerR said she wiped the fallen snow off his face and only then did she recognize him.
Idk how he was found. KR’s testified he was face up. 911 call said they flipped him over. I think it’s another example of how the story changed.
 
  • #129
And the GJ too! Everyone but her got it wrong.
So Grand Jury was wrong, Mike Lenk is wrong, Proctor was wrong, Tully was wrong, her own GPS and cell records are wrong, and her own sworn testimony of events as she remembered at the time are - you guessed it - wrong.

Hmmm…
 
  • #130
I watched the first trial but I feel like some of this stuff is new to me. Not sure if I missed it or there really are new things coming out?

Did we know she had stopped/“drove by” at 34F for 4 minutes??

And what is with her and MM texting about KerryR’s interview — weren’t they both in the house listening, or am I confused? It’s hard to keep up this time around

Eta to fix name
 
  • #131
I really wonder if it's Matt that is orchestrating this narrative. Leaving his wife out to dry...
 
  • #132
81 Percent of the poll is saying Jen is not believable. On Court TV.
 
  • #133
It takes 5 min to drive 2.5 miles at 30mph in good weather conditions. The distance between 34 fairview and 1 meadows. And that is not accounting for possible stop lights or whatever might be encountered on the slick roads. Since 30 mph was used as an example in my original post, I would be surprised if the car was even being driven that fast in those conditions. And I for sure don't see 43 mph being easily managed on slick roads. JMOO
If she was doing the speed limit, it would take a min of 6-7 min via either of 3 different routes according to Google Maps. If she was going twice the speed limit, she'd make it in a minimum of 3-3.5 minutes. I doubt she was going that fast, maybe 5 miles over speed at best. I think someone claiming she could make it in 4 minutes in a snow storm is a stretch. I wonder if the so-called "black box" will show how fast she was driving?
 

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  • #134
I really wonder if it's Matt that is orchestrating this narrative. Leaving his wife out to dry...
Brian Albert is the one guiding Jen.
 
  • #135
When people lie and continue to lie, they can’t remember the last lie they told. It usually catches up with them at some point.
 
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This is a major blow for the CW. No words except wtaf...colluding happened. Omg.
Hi: I am going thru these threads sporadically but what is CW???? thanks
 
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CW=Commonwealth of Massachusetts
 
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Anyone think the sidebar might be over in time for lunch?
 
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