MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #23 Retrial

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  • #261
So strange that she didn't go pounding on the door and ringing the bell of her sister's house and just waited in the cold for 6.5 long minutes for ambulance. I don't like to say what I would do in someone else's shoes but seems like at a minimum most people would pound on the door and wake up the owners especially if they knew them.
Especially considering her sister and brother in law are both first responders/medical personnel.
 
  • #262
Just wait, after lunch when HB takes over on his re-direct, JM will suddenly be able to remember and answer all of his questions!
 
  • #263
Especially considering her sister and brother in law are both first responders/medical personnel.
Yes especially that but even if they weren't.
 
  • #264
And I'm probably going to wake up BA since he is trained in these matters and ask for his help. But JM nope, she just calls 911
And calls her good buddy JO ‘a man in the snow’
 
  • #265
Did JMC just say she only knew John was dead on the lawn and tail lights were next to him?????? She is being questioned why she did not go running into her sister's and BRIAN ABERTS' house, so this is at the specific time, tail lights next to him?? Her reason as not why she is concerned if people inside the house may also be harmed.. using the tail lights seen as an excuse, deducting that all is fine inside due to that. THIS is her story thought. IMO
At the time she didn't know he was hit by a vehicle and taillights were found next to him is what she said
 
  • #266
At the time didn't know he was hit by a vehicle and taillights were found next to him is what she said
Methinks she just slipped up doing the song and dance she’s been doing with AJ. She’s taken every opportunity to sidestep his questions and reassert Karen’s guilt. But she may have just gotten over her head with that comment. MOO.
 
  • #267
At the time she didn't know he was hit by a vehicle and taillights were found next to him is what she said
More BS as no tail lights were found until that evening. Even the leaf blower guy failed to find any IIRC
 
  • #268
Who’s gonna play JMc in the movie?
 
  • #269
Not only that, but if you see a dead man on your sister's lawn, your mind would be racing and expecting the worst. You wouldn't KNOW he hadn't been in the house. You wouldn't KNOW others were not also dead or dying. You'd be running into that house so fast to find out why her sister never picked up at 5:07, and again at 6:03 and 6:04 (or whichever times she called). It makes no sense she wasn't in a panic thinking about why her sister wasn't answering. You'd also be running in screaming for help from them. You'd be screaming as soon as you opened the door HELP HELP HELP.
All true. Maybe this is one reason she denys making those calls to her sister, period? Despite having the records placed under her ( growing longer by the second) nose? I missed some of that testimony. I recall in trial X 1 she denied making calls to NA after 6am, let alone whether they were answered or not. ICBW. Need to review the testimony.

But regardless, absolutely it is very incongruent, that she didn't immediately rush into her sister and check on her. Moo
 
  • #270
All true. Maybe this one reason she denys making those calls to her sister, period? Despite having the records placed under her ( growing longer by the second) nose? I missed some of that testimony. I recall in trial X 1 she denied making calls to NA after 6am, let alone whether they were answered or not. ICBW. Need to review the testimony.

But regardless, absolutely it is very incongruent, that she didn't immediately rush into her sister and check on her. Moo
Instead, she stands around directing and advising everybody who would listen to her that morning. AJ made his point loud and clear! She's a fake person, an outright liar and a disgusting human being who has tried to frame Karen Read right from the very beginning.
 
  • #271
This case is not about JMc, she is not on trial. She is a witness. Jackson I guess would like you to believe otherwise. The other day he said he only needed two hours today, yet, here we are and it looks like it will use the rest of the day to cross JMc. Thats okay, she holding up well. She's got this, truth prevails.

The 2:27 google search already debunked by Cellebrite. I supposed if a person doesnt understand digital forensic analysis then they would not understand the search was debunked. JMc doing an excellent job and is credible witness for the CW.

I suspect CW will call Jessica Hyde to the stand, she's on the witness list. moo

 
  • #272
Instead, she stands around directing and advising everybody who would listen to her that morning. AJ made his point loud and clear! She's a fake person, an outright liar and a disgusting human being who has tried to frame Karen Read right from the very beginning.
Along with clearly the relatives in that house. NO intention of ever going into Alberts house to get him to run to JOK's side. NOPE. Nothing happened at THIS house and we are all going to keep it that way, we are sound asleep. IMO
 
  • #273
What collision?
So ... I'm a little behind and trying to catch up but I just have to ask ... if KR stopped her vehicle across from the front door ... then moved ahead to the flag pole ... then backed up and hit John ... how did his body end up by the flag pole. Of course I don't believe she hit him but just wondering how this is being explained ... by CW or KR Team. Moo Thanks for clueing me in sleuthers. So enjoy this group.
 
  • #274
Did JMC just say she only knew John was dead on the lawn and tail lights were next to him?????? She is being questioned why she did not go running into her sister's and BRIAN ABERTS' house, so this is at the specific time, tail lights next to him?? Her reason as not why she is concerned if people inside the house may also be harmed.. using the tail lights seen as an excuse, deducting that all is fine inside due to that. THIS is her story thought. IMO
Yup. Very telling. Bet she wants that answer back.
 
  • #275
Yup. Very telling. Bet she wants that answer back.
Bet she wants her "normal mom" life back too after this trial!
She is such a revolting human being and whoever's watching this trial now knows it loud and clear.
 
  • #276
And I'm probably going to wake up BA since he is trained in these matters and ask for his help. But JM nope, she just calls 911
Well, to be fair, she didn't want to wake him up and give him a heart attack right? She didn't want them to think something terrible happened. /s
 
  • #277
Did JMC just say she only knew John was dead on the lawn and tail lights were next to him?????? She is being questioned why she did not go running into her sister's and BRIAN ABERTS' house, so this is at the specific time, tail lights next to him?? Her reason as not why she is concerned if people inside the house may also be harmed.. using the tail lights seen as an excuse, deducting that all is fine inside due to that. THIS is her story thought. IMO
I’m behind on the stream. That’s a HUGE admission. No one saw taillight pieces. They weren’t found on the day of the accident.
 
  • #278
This case is not about JMc, she is not on trial. She is a witness. Jackson I guess would like you to believe otherwise. The other day he said he only needed two hours today, yet, here we are and it looks like it will use the rest of the day to cross JMc. Thats okay, she holding up well. She's got this, truth prevails.

The 2:27 google search already debunked by Cellebrite. I supposed if a person doesnt understand digital forensic analysis then they would not understand the search was debunked. JMc doing an excellent job and is credible witness for the CW.

I suspect CW will call Jessica Hyde to the stand, she's on the witness list. moo

When Jen McCabes claims are central to Karen Read even getting indicted in the first place, it makes perfect sense for AJ to be questioning her in the way he is.

The 2:27 search was not debunked. Just as JOK’s location was not proven. Of course, the prosecutions experts will interpret the data in the way that best fits their case. That being said, BOTH CW witnesses had to admit in cross that this was merely their interpretation of the data. Just recently in Trial 2 Whiffen had to concede that John COULD have been in the house, which is a huge blow to the CW case. We’ll see what comes up on cross with the Cellebrite experts.
 
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  • #279
Bet she wants her "normal mom" life back too after this trial!
She is such a revolting human being and whoever's watching this trial now knows it loud and clear.
I really hope that in the future information comes out on why the FBI got involved in John's death. Will we ever get a straight answer.
 
  • #280
I really hope that in the future information comes out on why the FBI got involved in John's death. Will we ever get a straight answer.
IIRC, it was due to the claims from the defense (now vindicated by Proctors dishonorable discharge and firing, IMO) that the law enforcement investigating the case were potentially corrupt or committing misconduct.
 
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