MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #24 Retrial

[Snoop Sister]

Well Attorney Alessi was very unnecessarily bombastic in his manner towards the witness and wasn't letting Ms. Hyde answer. He even banged his hands on the podium and shouted at her at one point. She's human and reacted very mildly a couple times. I think she was an excellent witness for the Prosecution and very respectful. I think Ms. Hyde made the tech stuff very easy for the jurors to understand and evaluate. AJMO

Totally agree. Alessi was very inappropriate and demonstrated his inability to control his anger. IMO

 

[cocomod]

Glad you mentioned beyond a reasonable doubt (BARD).

A jury in no uncertain terms must be certain of the defendant’s guilt in order to render a guilty verdict.

A jury must be convinced that there is no other reasonable explanation that can come from the evidence presented (a unanimous verdict in criminal cases) at trial.

-- Ex: its reasonable (no doubt) that a pedestrian strike occurred after being hit (clipped, whatever the evidence may be) by the defendant’s vehicle, while operating under the influence of alcohol, and leaving the scene of a crime. (guilty)

-- If there is any doubt that the defendant cant be placed at the scene of the crime, that’s reasonable doubt. (not guilty)

The CW is on their way to proving their case, but theres more evidence to present, first and foremost, the accident reconstruction expert (for the CW) will be invaluable.

The CW does not have to provide motive.

In addition, BARD is not that there are butt dials, that the homeowner didnt come (there were no sirens) out of the house, or that BH dumped his phone at a military base.

Further, I disagree with your opinion about Ms. Hyde (forensic data analyst), thought she was a great witness for the CW and she's another witness that didnt allow defense to twist their words. She’s top in her industry, a male dominate career, she's a success; and I love that, she’s intelligent, kind, and respectful. The star witness for today. Oh, and the star witness destroyed the claim that John O’Keefe was climbing stairs. Debunked. Again.

However, Alessi, needs to re-review how to speak to a professional (to a person in general), how to be respectful in the courtroom, his loud tone is inappropriate and he possibly is losing some jurors. He apparently is an angry little man. The defense is not helping their “client” with the cross examinations Ive seen. They (defense) are desperate and deflated. Wonder why...

Just another bad day for the defendant, and another day of my opinion

There has been zero evidence submitted to this jury yet HOW OJO was killed. BARD exists completely at this point. The experts and witness that have testified so far have all been picked apart and proven to perjure themselves by the defense. There is definitely reasonable doubt about the witnesses being truthful! I also think Alessi is and has shown himself to be a brilliant attorney

 

[tara83]

Totally agree. Alessi was very inappropriate and demonstrated his inability to control his anger. IMO

Well he got her to admit she was wrong. If you or your family member were on trial for their life I bet you would your lawyer to get someone to admit they lied.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Totally agree. Alessi was very inappropriate and demonstrated his inability to control his anger. IMO

If his behavior was inappropriate don’t you think Judge Cannone would have reprimanded him? Does he have to handle everyone with kid gloves when Karen’s future is on the line?

 

[cocomod]

Totally agree. Alessi was very inappropriate and demonstrated his inability to control his anger. IMO

He controlled his anger, and he was able to prove his point at the same time. Ms Hyde's testimony was incomplete and she was wrong on several points. His job is to defend KR, and he is doing a heck of a job!

 

[Leilei]

Bederow’s thoughts re: Proctor

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920462733721428132

That's a bad look, since his name has been mentioned many times in their questioning. Defense will put him on the stand, and he might just be extremely difficult, which will leave the jurors wondering why the CW wouldn't bring up a very important part of this case themselves.
I hear chickens clucking - bok bok!
IMO.

 

[sunshineray]

Yup! Absolutely ridiculous that they weren't even questioned!

A good point I saw mentioned today elsewhere is the fact that jen mcabe made 200 phone calls between Jan 29 and Feb 2. 200!!!!! Who the hell does that? Then consider that practically everyone got all their information from her...911, proctor, tully, bukhenik, kerry roberts, morrissey, lally, etc, etc, etc....Hell even Karen Read believed her on some things. It's plain as day to me. It did not take 20+ people to all go in on some master conspiracy. It took ONE! And that person in jen mcabe!!! All roads lead to her. Without her there is nothing! I joked a couple of days ago that it's all jen's world and we're lucky to be living in it. I'm not joking anymore. That woman is evil personified. She took control of this thing and commandeered everything after whatever happened to JOK happened. There is no escaping the fact that she is the link that brings this whole abomonation of a trial together. Every person in this whole pathetic saga is linked to her in one way or the other.

She has been caught in lie after lie after lie. She's changed her story now several times. She lied about making phone calls. She lied about contacting her sister. She lied about the dog. She deleated internet searches. She deleted phone calls. She lied to the FBI. She lied to the Grand Jury. She lied in the 1st trial. She's lied in this trial. How anyone can believe a single thing that she vomits out of her lying, disgusting mouth is beyond me. All of everything I just wrote above is all my own opinion and I stand behind every, single word of it!!!

Could you please provide links to the JM 200 calls so we can see some context as to what the tedtimony was and from whom? TIA

 

[Angelwatch]

There has been zero evidence submitted to this jury yet HOW OJO was killed. BARD exists completely at this point. The experts and witness that have testified so far have all been picked apart and proven to perjure themselves by the defense. There is definitely reasonable doubt about the witnesses being truthful! I also think Alessi is and has shown himself to be a brilliant attorney

Thinking back to the Casey Anthony trial. I would have voted to convict her beyond a reasonable doubt. One of the main issues the jury had was that the medical examiner couldn't state how Caylee died. It's a real problem in a trial not to know how someone was killed.

 

[Angelwatch]

Could you please provide links to the JM 200 calls so we can see some context as to what the tedtimony was and from whom? TIA

It was yesterday's testimony from Hyde.

 

[keek]

Not inappropriate for a lawyer in a courtroom, his being his defense lawyer best. Yes, murder trial, every single word is crucial from witnesses, especially this witness. It is a trial, a murder trial. judge def would of stopped him, would of loved to. She did not. IMO

 

[Recidivist]

Not inappropriate for a lawyer in a courtroom, his being his defense lawyer best. Yes, murder trial, every single word is crucial from witnesses, especially this witness. It is a trial, a murder trial. judge def would of stopped him, would of loved to. She did not. IMO

Even Perry Mason slapped his hand on the podium at times.

 

[keek]

Could you please provide links to the JM 200 calls so we can see some context as to what the tedtimony was and from whom? TIA

ALL in the trial. I would bet on that! You would have to go back and rewatch. SOO many important details to watch and listen to to understand.. IMO

 

[Derph]

Totally agree. Alessi was very inappropriate and demonstrated his inability to control his anger. IMO

She was being nasty and angry herself. She was so full of herself, I immediately couldn't stand her! She totally lost it on the stand and Alessi went out of his way to be respectful to her even thanking her for her horrible, wrong, misguided, statements of false information. I thought he was very professional.

 

[Tricia]

Here is Vinnie Politan. Video was premiered today but it is from yesterday.
Start at about 21:00 minutes into the video.
@22:00 Vinnie says, "I am at the point where the defense has to get the jury to believe that it's reasonable there's a reasonable explanation alternative explanation for the taillight there, and it has to be someone is planting the evidence. Someone has, there's no other way tell me another way that the taillight ends there, it's either Karen Read striking John O'Keefe, or someone planting evidence. It's this or that. That's it."
That's where I am at. Where is the evidence that someone planted this taillight evidence.
Don't get me wrong. I think there is plenty of reasonable doubt because of the mistakes made in the investigation but I'm not seeing how this evidence was planted. Yet. Maybe the defense will bring it home during their case.

 

[Wishbone]

Could you please provide links to the JM 200 calls so we can see some context as to what the tedtimony was and from whom? TIA

Jessica Hyde told prosecutor Hank Brennan that Jennifer McCabe's phone showed “200 regular phone calls in the three days

Expert testified that hypothermia Google search came after John O’Keefe’s body was found. Here’s how Wednesday unfolded. - The Boston Globe

Digital forensic analyst Jessica Hyde also testified that she does not believe McCabe intentionally deleted any calls from her call log.

www.bostonglobe.com

 

[jepop]

Have you read any of his court filings??? Misspellings, bad grammar, etc. They ought to call him The Butcher after the way he massacres the English language.

No, I haven't bothered reading many of his filings in detail. Sounds lame.

There has been zero evidence submitted to this jury yet HOW OJO was killed. BARD exists completely at this point. The experts and witness that have testified so far have all been picked apart and proven to perjure themselves by the defense. There is definitely reasonable doubt about the witnesses being truthful! I also think Alessi is and has shown himself to be a brilliant attorney

Alessi is very good. The personal attacks being made don't hit home really. When you can't put a dent in a successful cross, try putting a dent in the attorney. Jmo

 

[justtrish]

Something I am thinking about after this last witness. So Proctor had to be so comfortable with the relationship he and the witness had for him to text THAT type of stuff to him. What gave Proctor the impression he could text the things he did to his supervisor? Don't see any nudes yet? How many other cases did they work where this was common? I think in order for someone to be able to send inappropriate things, they have to trust the person they are sending them to not to share them or to be accepting of what was about to be sent. Also, seems it was okay with the recipient since he didn't reprimand him. No way Proctor would have sent the texts to a supervisor that was doing his job.

 

[geevee]

Seems like it’s the same shoe as yesterday (found at 34F). Where is the other shoe that was on JO’s foot when found in snow and probably discarded by medical staff at the hospital?

The other shoe wasn't discarded, here are two pics of both of them:

 

[jepop]

Something I am thinking about after this last witness. So Proctor had to be so comfortable with the relationship he and the witness had for him to text THAT type of stuff to him. What gave Proctor the impression he could text the things he did to his supervisor? Don't see any nudes yet? How many other cases did they work where this was common? I think in order for someone to be able to send inappropriate things, they have to trust the person they are sending them to not to share them or to be accepting of what was about to be sent. Also, seems it was okay with the recipient since he didn't reprimand him. No way Proctor would have sent the texts to a supervisor that was doing his job.

Yes. What gave Proctor the impression he could text what he did to his supervisor? Moo a general culture within at least that sector/unit of MSP which accepts misogynistic expression and allows it to fester and spread. Under cross last year Bukhenic was also exposed as liking one of Proctor's more abhorrent texts sent within the official work chat for the investigation. Jmo

 

[lohrtabitha]

Can someone please tell me why the police chief didn't come out to 34 Fairview at 6am when one of his own was dead on the lawn? Don't blame it on the weather. There was only 3 inches of snow.