MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #25 Retrial

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Brennan will address this in closing. He established there is no timestamp for that drive by.
Firstly the car with the witnesses had Karen's car turn in front of it under a round a mile before Fairview and pulled up behind Karen's car, So they were a minute at most behind, and stayed there for 3 to 5 minutes, whilst another witness walked out to the car. All said they saw no one leave the car. As they drive off that is when they saw the empty passenger seat, with Karen with hands at 10 and 2, looking ahead.

So two people who may have have phones with location settings, but prosecution hasn't presented phone location data from them (which would allow confirmation of JoK phone). Feds are able to get phone data easier than local or state authorities.

I hope Brennan has an explanation and timeline, cause so far the timeline is not clear, if he hasn't I would feel like he has wasted everyone's time but he seems a clever guy.

A left field suggestion is JoK left his phone in the car, and Karen threw it onto the lawn. Then however improbably John ended up on the phone. Everyone seems to presume that a phone moving means the person owning it is moving.
 
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There was no probable cause to search 34F, nonetheless LE did enter the house. It's your right to ensure the privacy of your property, your home. jmo

Fourth Amendment - an amendment to the U.S. Constitution and a part of the Bill of Rights
Its goal is to protect people against unreasonable searches and seizures.
 
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Regarding what I've bolded above.

1) It's you opinion Lally demonstrated the 5.08am backing up was deliberate. In reality no clear evidence was presented for your "staged" conspiracy theory. Given the circumstances we are privy to, the defendant's panic and so forth, I find the contention ridiculous. This is far more likely to be an accident. Jmo

2) It's up to the jurors to decide what that 5.08am video shows in terms of tail light damage. Your opinion is not a fact.

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That is a good comparison! I was trying to find something to compare it to because I thought the "white" in the video that they showed yesterday when Brennan stopped the video was the reflection of the flood light on the garage that is obviously on at the time. I grabbed a screenshot of the back of the car as it moved, the white spot disappeared. The next time they stopped the video, it disappeared again. I had to slow down the video to .25 because I thought I was imagining it lol

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Regarding what I've bolded above.

1) It's you opinion Lally demonstrated the 5.08am backing up was deliberate. In reality no clear evidence was presented for your "staged" conspiracy theory. Given the circumstances we are privy to, the defendant's panic and so forth, I find the contention ridiculous. This is far more likely to be an accident. Jmo

2) It's up to the jurors to decide what that 5.08am video shows in terms of tail light damage. Your opinion is not a fact.

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Not to mention the version of the Ring Video shown yesterday clearly has a filter or edits to the color scheme. Look how blue her headlights appear and how green the inside of her car looks. Either a manipulation of the colors or the saturation.

Compared to the original video
 

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It's gonna be a loong day with this guy again! He's being deliberately obtuse. I can't believe no one got to him and told him to shape up!
 
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I wasn't sure if this could get worse for YB ...

Apparently it can ... :oops:
 
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It's you opinion Lally demonstrated the 5.08am backing up was deliberate.

Your opinion is not a fact.

RSBM

I literally posted MOO on my post
 
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I wasn't sure if this could get worse for YB ...

Apparently it can ... :oops:
I guess they are not aware how bad his testimony was to this case yesterday. It is SO bad and not just for this case but overall trust in LE and the system. IMO
 
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He just needs to quit pretending lol
Michael Proctor did a lot of things - own them
JMO
 
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YB is making this difficult. Just answer, even if it was Proctor. If he or the CW is so confident that he did nothing wrong, just own it. He is making it look like he is trying to hide something (he kinda is I guess)
 
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There was no probable cause to search 34F, nonetheless LE did enter the house. It's your right to ensure the privacy of your property, your home. jmo

Fourth Amendment - an amendment to the U.S. Constitution and a part of the Bill of Rights
Its goal is to protect people against unreasonable searches and seizures.
There was a dead co worker in the front yard and he was last seen with this group of people at the house.
Thats a warrant that should have happened.
 
  • #117
Nicole and Brian are divorcing???
Rumor.
Nicole said she butt dialed her lawyer and they just drew up divorce papers.
imo..lol
 
  • #118
Can’t the court just stipulate that this guy is useless as a witness and move along to the next person?
 
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Wow. Bukhenik is now testifying that he bagged the taillight pieces but handed them off to someone else, who supposedly labeled the evidence bag. He can’t (or won’t) name who that person was, and he’s not confirming it was Michael Proctor. So… we’re just left to assume a mystery person took over at a critical point in the evidence chain? Hmm…
 
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YB blankly staring at the two documents trying to think of how to respond ...

He's making himself out to be a real dummy in his role, not knowing who had custody of evidence.

Another incompetent at the MSP.

MOO
 
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