MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #25 Retrial

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  • #281
And they were paid 24 k for their time and flights etc, NOT for their FBI commissioned work, report and findings!!! They did not lie under oath. This is just plainly untrue. The defense was sent an invoice for those expenses well after trial x1. Can you imagine the uproar if DOJ had actually paid for the expenses of the defense's witnesses? 24,K for x2 expert witnesses is drop in the ocean. It only covered their expenses to get there and testify, not the work they actually did. That was paid for by DOJ.

This is correct.

The issue was that AJ did not discover the invoice, not that they were paid for trial prep, voir dire etc, which would be normal.

IMO
 
  • #282
This is correct.

The issue was that AJ did not discover the invoice, not that they were paid for trial prep, voir dire etc, which would be normal.

IMO
The court didn’t find any misconduct though, just a late disclosure. If AJ had violated the law or misrepresented the relationship, ARCCA wouldn’t have been allowed to ratify the report or testify again in the retrial. The judge’s ruling speaks for itself.
 
  • #283
I see your point, but this witness is feigning confusion over almost every single question. It’s just not realistic. We can agree to disagree on this one.
I do not read it the same way. This officer is trying to be very exact in what he testifies to, as I would expect of a police officer trying to be accurate, considering all the evidence he's being called on to testify about, MO
 
  • #284
At a hearing on April 28, 2025
"A crash reconstructionist whose testimony is expected to be key to Karen Read's defense admitted on the stand Monday, without jurors present, that he sent notes to her team during the first trial and received information about prior testimony despite a sequestration order.

Dr. Daniel Wolfe testified during the first trial that damage to Read's SUV – the alleged murder weapon – was inconsistent in regard to a collision with John O'Keefe, the Boston police officer found dead on a colleague's front lawn during a blizzard on Jan. 29, 2022.
He took the stand again Monday as part of a contentious evidence hearing as special prosecutor Hank Brennan raised issues with delays in discovery a week into Read's second murder trial; the first ended with a deadlocked jury."

If Jackson had truly broken the law or ARCCA had violated court orders to the point of disqualification, they wouldn’t have been cleared to testify. Point blank.
 
  • #285
My apologies.
Still doesn’t change my opinion.
Fair enough.
It's important to keep the misinformation out of the thread so I'm glad it was cleared up for others.
 
  • #286
My God it's only 2:41pm

WALL.webp
 
  • #287
I do not read it the same way. This officer is trying to be very exact in what he testifies to, as I would expect of a police officer trying to be accurate, considering all the evidence he's being called on to testify about, MO
This officer's accuracy should have started way before he was put on the witness stand.
When he was investigating and collecting evidence, for instance, along with others.
Sloppy, shoddy investigation leads to a sloppy, shoddy witness.
IMO.
Edit: Rewording
 
  • #288
‘I’m not a medical professional.” You, sir are not a professional anything.
His testimony is insufferable.
YB
IMO
 
  • #289
No. You should watch the courtroom tv the day that the jury was out and it was AJ, Brennan and Wolfe. It was very clear that they did not do anything wrong, and even Judge Cannone had to acknowledge it and allow their testimony. All that you’ve heard about collusion between ARCCA and the defense is an attempt from the CW to discredit ARCCA, because ARCCA proved John could not have been hit by Karen’s car. MOO.
I disagree with your take on what occurred, not the outcome of what the judge allowed after all was said and done. So I do believe there was inappropriate communications by that witness. We will just have to disagree on that.
 
  • #290
The court didn’t find any misconduct though, just a late disclosure. If AJ had violated the law or misrepresented the relationship, ARCCA wouldn’t have been allowed to ratify the report or testify again in the retrial. The judge’s ruling speaks for itself.
The whole attempted prosecution discrediting of ARCCA and the conspiratorial innuendo and mindset it's generated amongst some on social media is bizarre. Bizarre that the court allowed it and actually fanned the flames. Jmo
 
  • #291
This officer's accuracy should have started way before he was put on the witness stand.
When he was investigating and collecting evidence, for instance, along with others.
Sloppy, shoddy investigation equals a sloppy, shoddy witness.
IMO.
That's your opinion on what previously occurred. I was speaking to his current testimony on the stand today.
 
  • #292
I’m not accepting…hook, line and sinker…testimony from witnesses who lied under oath about being paid by defense attorneys who misled the judge about the payments and had about three different stories for how that happened. I totally disagree with the ruling of the judge, who although acknowledging the defense’s bad behavior still allowed the testimony in.
I do not accept people beat a man to death and just carried his body outside and dropped it in the front yard.
I don’t think KR murdered him. I think she accidentally hit him. If she’s found innocent I will still think she hit him, but I’ll accept it and move on with my life.
I’m not ignoring anything.



Edit: forgot my link
the defense did not hire, retain, or pay ARCCA, LLC, to engage in the reconstruction, analysis, and/or testing that was performed by ARCCA


In new court filings Monday, Read’s defense sought to clarify statements made in documents for the previous hearing, specifically a motion that states the ARCCA crash experts “were not hired or paid by the defense.”

“The statement…. was poorly worded and should have reflected, more specifically, that the defense did not hire, retain, or pay ARCCA, LLC, to engage in the reconstruction, analysis, and/or testing that was performed by ARCCA in connection with this case,” attorney Elizabeth Little wrote in an affidavit.

In a corresponding filing, Read’s defense admits to paying ARCCA experts for their time and expenses after trial. According to the document, the payments included:

  • Travel expenses and time associated with traveling to Norfolk Superior Court.
  • Less than 1 hour in calls with the defense to coordinate attendance and discuss the experts’ background.
  • Time spent testifying in court and the experts’ internal preparation for trial.
 
  • #293
The court didn’t find any misconduct though, just a late disclosure. If AJ had violated the law or misrepresented the relationship, ARCCA wouldn’t have been allowed to ratify the report or testify again in the retrial. The judge’s ruling speaks for itself.

The Judge did find misconduct. She considered revoking Jackson’s PHV status but ultimately that would have delayed the trial. He was fortunate to get away with it.


Cannone further found a “flagrant violation” of the defense team’s Rule 14 obligations for sharing pretrial discovery, though she called Read up for a sidebar before discussing possible sanctions. Noting Read’s “strong desire” to keep her legal team as-is, the judge ultimately declined to revoke permission for Read’s out-of-state attorneys to continue practicing law in Massachusetts.

 
  • #294
There was no snow bank at that time, not enough snow had fallen IMO and I hope that is proved. The lawn was at a slight slope downward. Problem, he believed BH even though another officer was found dead at the home BH had come from. IMO
 
  • #295
None of this talk changes the fact that it was a totally unbiased report because it was not done at the request of either side. Please someone explain what reason they would have to make this up.
 
  • #296
None of this talk changes the fact that it was a totally unbiased report because it was not done at the request of either side. Please someone explain what reason they would have to make this up.
Exactly.
This poor horse is beyond dead, y'all, so please stop beating it.
Geesh.
IMO.
 
  • #297
‘I’m not a medical professional.” You, sir are not a professional anything.
His testimony is insufferable.
YB
IMO
That's a very unfair statement, IMO
 
  • #298
Thank you. I thought it was his Cape home since they had been talking about the beach, etc. Do you know if he went to her home, like how I recall his testimony?
Her home was in Mansfield MA and I dont think so. He did go to John's house. JMO
 
  • #299
The Judge did find misconduct. She considered revoking Jackson’s PHV status but ultimately that would have delayed the trial. He was fortunate to get away with it.




Agree to disagree. Judge Cannone called it a “flagrant violation” of discovery obligations because Jackson didn’t discover the ARCCA invoice in time. That’s a procedural issue, not misconduct in testimony or intent to deceive. If Jackson had actually lied or ARCCA had violated the law, they would’ve been barred from testifying. Instead, Cannone let them proceed. She considered PHV revocation, but didn’t do it, because the situation didn’t rise to that level. Let’s not confuse a discovery delay with disqualifying misconduct, which is what I was discussing.
 
  • #300
None of this talk changes the fact that it was a totally unbiased report because it was not done at the request of either side. Please someone explain what reason they would have to make this up.

That is correct. Some people want to ignore that fact. JMO
 
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