MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #25 Retrial

[HarmonyE.]

Which branch of the federal government?

Wiki to the rescue!

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is the domestic intelligence and security service of the United States and its principal federal law enforcement agency. An agency of the United States Department of Justice, the FBI is a member of the U.S. Intelligence Community and reports to both the attorney general and the director of national intelligence

 

[Wishbone]

The FBI is part of the Federal Government.

What is the FBI?​

The FBI is an intelligence-driven and threat-focused national security organization with both intelligence and law enforcement responsibilities. It is the principal investigative arm of the U.S. Department of Justice and a full member of the U.S. Intelligence Community. The FBI has the authority and responsibility to investigate specific crimes assigned to it and to provide other law enforcement agencies with cooperative services, such as fingerprint identification, laboratory examinations, and training. The FBI also gathers, shares, and analyzes intelligence, both to support its own investigations and those of its partners and to better understand and combat the security threats facing the United States.

What is the FBI? | Federal Bureau of Investigation

The FBI is an intelligence-driven and threat-focused national security organization with both intelligence and law enforcement responsibilities. [...]

www.fbi.gov

 

[keek]

The state police union is incredibly powerful. That's the best explanation. Based upon the last couple of days, it's clear Yuri B. should not have the job he does. It's scary.

He is very proud of being in Homicide Dept, you noticed. So unfortunate for those 'found' guilty in any of his cases, such as this one he hopes so clearly. IMO

 

[arielilane]

Oh, I so agree with you. So important to get facts straight!

The FBI is a Federal government agency (that's a fact!) and they are the ones who investigated the horrifically bad investigation by LE here.

Glad we can agree on the facts. To be clear, the FBI did not hire ARCCA, the U.S. Attorney's Office (fed govt) did.
Have a wonderful evening.

 

[HarmonyE.]

Glad we can agree on the facts. To be clear, the FBI did not hire ARCCA, the U.S. Attorney's Office (fed govt) did.
Have a wonderful evening.

Please see the links above explaining who the FBI is and what they do. May you have a blessed evening yourself.

 

[TDoc72]

And why does it seem all the LE on this case are afraid of BA and Proctor? One of the first things Gallagher should have done is to get back up. There was someone with higher ranking than him, right in that house. As we have heard AJ say, Brian Albert is a first responder. Gallagher was either too scared to go get him or he truly may just be that stupid. MOO

There is this idea that some big fight happened, and the entire house had to be in on it including the kids there for a sleepover. I don't think that at all. Maybe John and one or two people had a fight and one punch is thrown, and it rattles JOK. Maybe there are no punches thrown, but a verbal altercation happens and the dog jumps on him because when people are fighting or even wrestling around dogs can get protective. They tell him to get out and he does. He wanders out front looking for his ride because he thinks she's still going to be out there, and she isn't. He slips in the snow or sits down because his head is hurting, and he dies. I am not saying this is exactly what I think happened, but it is possible there was not much of a disturbance inside so not everyone was aware as it happened, and they might not know JOK was hurt as badly as he was when he left. That sure would be a reason to keep quiet once you realize that he's dead on the front lawn you know because nobody checked on him or thought to help him so fault just might be on the homeowner having the party.

We don't know because no LEO went inside to look or question anyone inside the house, no SW of the house was done, and lots of things were deleted or disposed of after that night.

I find this very reasonable.

If this idiot would just stop acting obtuse and answer the damn questions this trial would be over a week earlier.

If I was a juror, this would annoy the hell out of me. If someone was able to reasonably answer one side’s questions, then acted very obtuse for the other would cast serious doubt on the weight I would put on their testimony. Just answer the questions, without being continuously evasive.

Exactly.
This poor horse is beyond dead, y'all, so please stop beating it.
Geesh.
IMO.

C’mon, you know we’ll be doing the whole ARCCA Hokey Pokey in another 10-15 pages!

A responsible dog lover, owner does not change an adopted dog's name, who especially has had that name for several years. The dog is living in a confused state, not VT, as it is. A thoughtful and intelligent dog adopter would not do that, unless the need for in a victim witness protection program for dogs. IMO

Poor Chloe & her witness protection program. I feel bad for her. None of this was her fault.

 

[Angelwatch]

The notion that a witness or expert cannot communicate with the defense prior to testifying reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of how court proceedings work. In reality, it’s common and entirely appropriate for a witness to have had multiple meetings, depositions, or other forms of communication beforehand. These interactions are routine and part of the legal process. When one has been clearly informed of how this works but still refuses to acknowledge it, it moves from misunderstanding to willful ignorance.

 

[keek]

The notion that a witness or expert cannot communicate with the defense prior to testifying reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of how court proceedings work. In reality, it’s common and entirely appropriate for a witness to have had multiple meetings, depositions, or other forms of communication beforehand. These interactions are routine and part of the legal process. When one has been clearly informed of how this works but still refuses to acknowledge it, it moves from misunderstanding to willful ignorance.

One would WANT to understand clearly in order to just UNDERSTAND in order to make or mull about in their mind how an event comes to a conclusion and how it all works for future trials of any kind and crimes if they are a WS member or have interest beyond just I guess, topical. I have learned so much regarding the legal aspect of intricate trials and the meaning of not common in everyday life, terms regarding criminal trials. I learned from professionals here that work in those fields or for other reasons are knowledgeable of law. APPRECIATE! IMO

 

[DropthePuck]

No, asked a condescending question of the witness, MO I think there was confusion as to what was meant by the defense, as to theory. Best to clarify before answering, MO

There was no confusion. YB was being deliberately obtuse the entire cross. JMO

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

ARCCA was hired by the federal government not by the FBI.

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MSN

The FBI is a part of the DOJ, correct?

 

[Wishbone]

I have heard many actual facts with evidence and much nonsense also with no evidence to support it, in this trial. It's very hard not to form a strong opinion at this stage of the proceedings. AJMO

Since we have thus far only heard from the cw witnesses does that mean they have presented many actual facts with evidence but also much nonsense with no evidence to support it? I can agree with the much nonsense. And it is very hard not to form a negative opinion from the witnesses and nonsense the cw has presented. JMOO

 

[Maat99]

IF they talked to, fill in the blank, before their testimony and it altered it, it would matter, IMO.

Oh like Websleuths madlibs.
If they talked to <aliens> before their testimony and it altered it, it would matter, IMO.

I think you might be onto something

 

[Soulmagent]

Did anyone catch that YB answered to something being found on Fairy road? It came off sounding like he misspoke ,to me at first.
But I decided to check if there was a Canton street named Fairy road, there is. 13 miles from BA's.
I Just cant remember what question it was when he answered that.

 

[Forest_Wood]

I can’t believe the CW brought this to re-trial. IMO, they have a tiny chance of winning. And in the process they are loudly publicizing that their LE is inept and arrogant. That’s a high price to pay for such a small chance at victory.
And I don’t think Bentley will re-hire Ms. Read even if she’s not found guilty.
Cue “Hot for teacher” by Van Halen.

I don't see her even wanting to go back to the corporate world after this "episode" anyway. Nobody would want that publicity it would bring to both her and the org. I see her being a victim advocate though, possibly gaining an education in law, and definitely writing a book.
MOO

 

[keek]

There was no confusion. YB was being deliberately obtuse the entire cross. JMO

Anything but to say he saw the tires of JOK's car move, anything to avoid saying that. Used so many words to avoid it. Bizarre, why? We all saw it.

 

[keek]

I don't see her even wanting to go back to the corporate world after this "episode" anyway. Nobody would want that publicity it would bring to both her and the org. I see her being a victim advocate though, possibly gaining an education in law, and definitely writing a book.
MOO

DEFINITELY victim's witness advocate. A HUGE plus and would help so many others in such a terrible railroading situation. WHO among us could be as composed and involved and strong as she when up against a D.A, a judge, and witnesses who have been found to have lied. IMO

 

[Snoods]

The jurors are probably thinking "WHY????"
This is cruel and unusual punishment for everyone at this point.
Make it stop...
IMO.

Guilty of cringe, in the first degree! A courtroom commentator said one of the jurors had the giggles and they couldn’t stop.

 

[Teche]

I watched the entire video clip and the middle finger did not appear.

The Court TV video showed KR’s hand being blurred, The talking heads discussed it.

 

[Leilei]

DEFINITELY victim's witness advocate. A HUGE plus and would help so many others in such a terrible railroading situation. WHO among us could be as composed and involved and strong as she when up against a D.A, a judge, and witnesses who have been found to have lied. IMO

I would love this for her.
One thing about KR, she doesn't allow anyone to see her sweat in that courtroom. Guiding other folks through trials, showing them how to keep their heads up and stay strong, yep, I can see it. She has excellent mentors in AJ and RA, too.
IMO.

 

[Wishbone]

The Court TV video showed KR’s hand being blurred, The talking heads discussed it.

All that wasn't on the video the poster linked.