MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #25 Retrial

[Snoods]

As painful as it was to listen to, AJ proved his point. Don't play those little games when you're being crossed, it can and will backfire on you and make your whole team look foolish. Answer the questions, yes or no, as requested.

RSBM The next time Yuri steps out of line AJ can discreetly tap on a binder full of Procter’s texts.

 

[PamCake]

Agreed. The thing is, he came here when he was 9. I’m Canadian born but only spoke Greek for the first 5 years of my life because my parents and grandparents spoke Greek. I learned English from Kindergarten on and even with 6 painful years of Greek school, I lost the ability to speak it when I was in my early 20s. He’s full of it.

I would think, especially for someone in his line of work, the word “theory” would be an often used word…

 

[Snoods]

I would think, especially for someone in his line of work, the word “theory” would be an often used word…

He did! He used it about 1 minute before AJ did.

Yuri: My theory was…
AJ: So your theory was…
Yuri: What’s a theory? English is my third language. (Said in thick Boston accent.)

 

[nightowl1975]

She can not get out of this one!! Love it!!

What an odd reaction. Do you have the same feelings about the JUDGE throwing the finger in the middle of the proceedings as well? Or just Karen? <modsnip - not an approved source>

 

[nightowl1975]

And the judge said, "You're going to make him read all of it????" (paraphrasing). Then a side bar. Alan Jackson is brilliant. Then Yuri acts out the character roles complete with various emotional connotations while he's reading them. If this trial wasn't so serious in nature, it would seem like a comedy. Even Judge Cannone laughed today at something, which was nice to see for a change.
MOO

I think it worked out better for the defense that YB had to read allllll of it out loud. It gave so much more background and context and details than a simple “yes, the texts were flirtatious in nature” would have.

 

[Soulmagent]

I think it worked out better for the defense that YB had to read allllll of it out loud. It gave so much more background and context and details than a simple “yes, the texts were flirtatious in nature” would have.

I agree. I am sure any imagination work the jury would have to do with "flirtatious" is much more creative and harmful and the reality of the weird conversation is less damning to her case. IMO

 

[New Penny]

Agree. His family came over from the Ukraine when he was young though. He attended Stoughton schools, so I suspect his "English is foreign to me" schtick was just that. A schtick.

As painful as it was to listen to, AJ proved his point. Don't play those little games when you're being crossed, it can and will backfire on you and make your whole team look foolish. Answer the questions, yes or no, as requested.
And I still think Yuri was digging his impromptu dramatic reading.
The inflections and tone were killing me lol.
It's been a crazy week.
IMO.

I tend to think he also was relieved to be off the “hot seat” so to speak just mindlessly reading someone else’s words and not have to fend off the relentless questions of AJ (to which he was no match for btw).

MOO

 

[Malleeboy]

Ricky was driving not Ryan Nagel.
RN was in the front passenger seat and when his sister came out of the Albert's house he opened the car door and they spoke.
Heather was in the back seat mostly on her phone.
RN was asked if Ricky was the designated driver and didn't drink?
Ryan said something like, no he drinks.
imo

This car is key to the timing.
The intersection at Cedarcrest Rd, is only around 280 feet/85 m from 34 Fairveiw Rd.
So three people in the car. they see JOK in the car at the intersection.
They turn after KR's car, but flash lights even though KR had right of way, indicates a cautious driver, who maybe wouldn't turn fast.
KR got to the house first, they pulled up behind her.
3 people mean at least three phones, location data and timing is crucial.

For Defence, JOK must get out before the car, and at least start towards the house, doesn't need to get all the way IMHO, as they would primarily looking at he car that was sitting there.

For Prosecution, they must preclude possibility JOK getting out of the car straightaway, but they have to explain where he was whilst they sat there and then saw an empty passenger seat.

 

[sunshineray]

But they didnt, other than to find out travel and scheduling details.

Despite the prosecution's prior (purely wishful) speculation that led to a hearing on the matter, they had no actual evidence to support their wishes (it was a pure fishing expedition that should have never been granted, since they had nothing). And in that hearing, there was NO testimony -- not one single word -- that said ARCCA and the defense worked together on ARCCA's testimony prior to T1. Not one single word!

That's a fact.

Saying otherwise is not an "opinion" but rather just not telling the truth. If unintentional, then listen to the testimony in the ARCCA hearing itself (not the attorney claims and commentary on it, which can be someone's pure lies to support a bias). If intentional, it's denial of the truth, but DENIAL is not the same thing as an opinion.

The FACT is that ARCCA was hired and paid by the Feds (probably $500K or more, maybe even over $1M, these tests and reports don't come cheap) USING THE STATE'S OWN EVIDENCE IN THE CASE to determine whether KR vehicle could have struck JOK and caused the damage to the car and him that was found. After much testing, their answer was a flat no.

Under the agreement with the Feds to get ARCCA to present their reports and testify about it, the defense was not allowed to do anything with them other than put them on the stand and elicit their testimony (the Feds still owned and controlled ARCCA's testing, reports, and any right to use it, since they had paid for it).

The idea ARCCA was biased in what they offered in T1 is just not true. To say otherwise is just not being honest.

It's fine if you believe that's the whole story, I do not. MO

 

[sunshineray]

There was no confusion. YB was being deliberately obtuse the entire cross. JMO

I see it as being very careful on the stand, as I would expect. If the defense wants to nit pick in their questions on cross examination, which in my opinion EVERY defense lawyer does... then the witness is totally correct in making the defense lawyer clarify EXACTLY what they want them to answer yes, no etc...to. Do you see how many sidebars are called by both sides and sometimes the instructions by the judge to the jury. Being as exact as possible goes both ways...the questions from the lawyer and the answering from the witness. It's also why you've heard "objection" and the "sustained" so much during cross., the defense lawyer trying to run rough shot over the witness and failing. It's all part of the trial. I believe YB has been truthful and very careful, as he should be. AJMO

 

[sunshineray]

Since we have thus far only heard from the cw witnesses does that mean they have presented many actual facts with evidence but also much nonsense with no evidence to support it? I can agree with the much nonsense. And it is very hard not to form a negative opinion from the witnesses and nonsense the cw has presented. JMOO

No I was speaking in general terms including their opening statements and their cross examination tactics that has been chock full of innuendos, which get objected to and sustained by the judge. I've never believed the defense story that KR was framed. AJMO

 

[sunshineray]

Oh like Websleuths madlibs.
If they talked to <aliens> before their testimony and it altered it, it would matter, IMO.

I think you might be onto something

No my previous posts have made it clear I was not talking about the aliens...they've stayed out of things, so far, unless I missed the spaceship landing?

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Days from 1/29/22 until interview:
0-Jen McCabe
0-Matt McCabe
0-Brian Albert
0-Kerry Roberts
1-Officer Saraf
1-Katie McLaughlin
3-Jen McCabe #2
5-Michael Trotta
5-Nicole Albert
5-Brian Higgins
9-Ryan Nagel
10-Timothy Nuttal
10-Marietta Sullivan
10-Laura Sullivan
12-Julie Albert & Chris Albert
249-Julie Nagel
265-Sarah Levinson
524-Caitlin Albert
536-Brian Albert Jr.
536-Colin Albert
559-Brian “Lucky” Loughlin
574-Allie McCabe
581-Heather Maxon
796-Paul Gallagher
830-Tristan Morris

 

[kuromiiiilove]

What was the inaccurate performance review that YB was found to have made?

I wonder if we could submit a records request?

 

[Izzylizzy]

This car is key to the timing.
The intersection at Cedarcrest Rd, is only around 280 feet/85 m from 34 Fairveiw Rd.
So three people in the car. they see JOK in the car at the intersection.
They turn after KR's car, but flash lights even though KR had right of way, indicates a cautious driver, who maybe wouldn't turn fast.
KR got to the house first, they pulled up behind her.
3 people mean at least three phones, location data and timing is crucial.

For Defence, JOK must get out before the car, and at least start towards the house, doesn't need to get all the way IMHO, as they would primarily looking at he car that was sitting there.

For Prosecution, they must preclude possibility JOK getting out of the car straightaway, but they have to explain where he was whilst they sat there and then saw an empty passenger seat.

HM was the only one who testified she saw JOK in the passenger seat of KR's car at the intersection but when leaving house and driving by the SUV she didn't see anyone in the passenger seat, outside the car etc.

RN didn't see anyone in the passenger seat at the intersection and saw a woman (KR) sitting in the SUV with hands at 10 & 2 on the wheel, dome light was on but didn't see anyone in the passenger seat, outside the car etc.
RD wasn't asked by either the CW or the defense about the intersection and didn't look/see anyone in the SUV, exit it etc. while waiting for JN to come out of the house or when he pulled away leaving the house to head home.
imo

 

[Izzylizzy]

For starters if I was on this jury I would be asking why did an LE officer who has a dead LE officer on his front lawn and an LE officer who lives across the street from the house that has a dead LE officer on the front lawn did not come out of their houses.

Not even asking why the LE officer across the street deleted security footage that supposedly showed nothing.
IMO

 

[Wishbone]

I see it as being very careful on the stand, as I would expect. If the defense wants to nit pick in their questions on cross examination, which in my opinion EVERY defense lawyer does... then the witness is totally correct in making the defense lawyer clarify EXACTLY what they want them to answer yes, no etc...to. Do you see how many sidebars are called by both sides and sometimes the instructions by the judge to the jury. Being as exact as possible goes both ways...the questions from the lawyer and the answering from the witness. It's also why you've heard "objection" and the "sustained" so much during cross., the defense lawyer trying to run rough shot over the witness and failing. It's all part of the trial. I believe YB has been truthful and very careful, as he should be. AJMO

I see no truth in YB making this statement. JMOO​

Trooper fired over Karen Read investigation handled case with 'honor and integrity,' his supervisor says​

Massachusetts State Police Sgt. Yuri Bukhenik acknowledged that he was disciplined over the conduct of former trooper Michael Proctor.
Massachusetts State Police Sgt. Yuri Bukhenik acknowledged that he was also disciplined over misconduct allegations linked to Michael Proctor, the case agent who managed the investigation into the death of Boston police officer John O’Keefe. But the supervisor testified that the former trooper handled the probe with “honor and integrity.”

Trooper fired over Karen Read investigation handled case with 'honor and integrity,' his supervisor says

Massachusetts State Police Sgt. Yuri Bukhenik acknowledged that he was disciplined over the conduct of former trooper Michael Proctor.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[303gmf]

@CourtTV


WATCH: Did #KarenRead throw the "finger" as Sgt. Yuri Bukhenik read texts between her and Brian Higgins to the jury?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920940998844100693

Is Karen Read Giving The Middle Finger In Court?

In court during Sgt. Yuri Bukhenik's cross-examination on Friday, Karen Read appeared to display her middle finger.

www.courttv.com

Is Karen Read Giving The Middle Finger In Court?​

In court during Sgt. Yuri Bukhenik's cross-examination on Friday, Karen Read appeared to display her middle finger. (5/9/25) MORE

I did the same!! Both middle fingers, lock me up

 

[arielilane]

Text messages: I learned from those text messages that KR does not know how to tell the truth, the Aruba trip for one.

Re: Aruba trip

LS (friend of John O’Keefe) sister MS testified on 5/22/2024 about the group trip to Aruba in Dec. 2021.
John is a close family friend of theirs. One evening, MS encountered John in the hotel lobby and noted he appeared intoxicated. She greeted him w/a hug and asked if he was okay. KR loudly shouted, who the f was that across the lobby directing her anger at MS. John told KR to calm down, that she is LM’s little sister. KR then yelled at MS to go f yourself, to which MS responded yeah, f you too.

LS testified that John later told her KR accused him of making out with MS during the lobby encounter. LS asked MS about this and MS denied it saying I absolutely was not kissing John. He was like family, and such an interaction never would’ve happened (I believe MS was on the trip with her boyfriend).

KR apologized to LS and offered to pay for some of her sister’s room.

MA v. Karen Read: Killer or Cover-Up Murder Trial

UPDATE: A mistrial was declared in the trial of Karen Read, accused in the death of her police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe.

www.courttv.com

• Family friend Marietta Sullivan took the witness stand to describe Karen Read’s hostility toward her after the defendant thought she ‘made out’ with John O’Keefe when they were on a family vacation in Aruba in early January 2022.
• Read allegedly cussed her out after she saw Marietta and O’Keefe in the hotel lobby together – Marietta who considers O’Keefe a close friend, and a big brother type said after the two cussed at each other in their first encounter, she went to her sister and told her ‘Karen sucks.’
• Marietta Sullivan’s sister Laura Sullivan described John O’Keefe as one of her closest friends and testified he was a mainstay in her child’s life– after the baby’s father – O’Keefe’s best friend took his own life.
• Laura Sullivan invited O’Keefe to Aruba. She said O’Keefe was not himself, he seemed distant. At one point Karen said she wanted to make up for what she said to Marietta and wanted to pay for her room.

 

[arielilane]

She drove away from 34F at exact time that John’s GPS reveals he was beaten
She also calls John at the exact time he’s being beaten up
JMc is able to keep calling John’s phone asking him where are you -- during the beating
The group in the house are able to remain in the house and no one does anything or even attempts to call 911
Its not a birthday party no more… its kill the cop time
These hard working men (been going all day, traveling, bonding with cops) go ahead and get the dead cop, his phone, the drinking glass w/drinking straw, his baseball cap, lets take a shoe off first (great thinking by someone, my guess is Boston’s finest) and put him out on the property somewhere. Maybe the flagpole? In the street, near the curb. Like road kill.

However, they are in luck, the cop’s drunk girlfriend staged an oops I hit John’s Chevy Traverse (seen on Ring). Where’s the other Ring footage?
Great critical thinking and common sense. Just an opinion.