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It’s from Feb 12. They likely would hv the info by now or does it take a long time ?
Were any of the accused LE involved in that case also involved in the KR case?Yes, sadly you are correct. I think the Birchmore case was remarkably relevant. IMO, hearing about Sandra Birchmore would have pushed most of the jurors over the top - local LE would have been exposed for what they are.
Judge bars mention of Sandra Birchmore investigation at Karen Read trial
Karen Read's defense can't bring up the Sandra Birchmore investigation during Read's murder trial, a judge ruled Tuesday.www.masslive.com
Yes. 4 to be exact.
I'm not very up there on the relationship tree and who knows and knew who, so really just spit balling here.
Like I said, I've met some very unlikable cops, we're talking crude-mouthed and obnoxious in their personal lives. That doesn't mean everything they do on the job is suspect. I've met lots of professionals that I'd not care to associate with personally. Doesn't mean they're not good at their jobs. Some very well could be straight-up bad people but I don't cookie-cut their professions as having all bad people because of them. AJMO
Text messages: I learned from those text messages that KR does not know how to tell the truth, the Aruba trip for one.
Re: Aruba trip
LS (friend of John O’Keefe) sister MS testified on 5/22/2024 about the group trip to Aruba in Dec. 2021.
John is a close family friend of theirs. One evening, MS encountered John in the hotel lobby and noted he appeared intoxicated. She greeted him w/a hug and asked if he was okay. KR loudly shouted, who the f was that across the lobby directing her anger at MS. John told KR to calm down, that she is LM’s little sister. KR then yelled at MS to go f yourself, to which MS responded yeah, f you too.
LS testified that John later told her KR accused him of making out with MS during the lobby encounter. LS asked MS about this and MS denied it saying I absolutely was not kissing John. He was like family, and such an interaction never would’ve happened (I believe MS was on the trip with her boyfriend).
KR apologized to LS and offered to pay for some of her sister’s room.
MA v. Karen Read: Killer or Cover-Up Murder Trial
UPDATE: A mistrial was declared in the trial of Karen Read, accused in the death of her police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe.www.courttv.com
- Family friend Marietta Sullivan took the witness stand to describe Karen Read’s hostility toward her after the defendant thought she ‘made out’ with John O’Keefe when they were on a family vacation in Aruba in early January 2022.
- Read allegedly cussed her out after she saw Marietta and O’Keefe in the hotel lobby together – Marietta who considers O’Keefe a close friend, and a big brother type said after the two cussed at each other in their first encounter, she went to her sister and told her ‘Karen sucks.’
- Marietta Sullivan’s sister Laura Sullivan described John O’Keefe as one of her closest friends and testified he was a mainstay in her child’s life– after the baby’s father – O’Keefe’s best friend took his own life.
- Laura Sullivan invited O’Keefe to Aruba. She said O’Keefe was not himself, he seemed distant. At one point Karen said she wanted to make up for what she said to Marietta and wanted to pay for
"Bad boys, bad boys, what ya gonna do, what ya gonna do when Jackson comes for you? " in my opinion, Allan Jackson is becoming a champion of the people. Love it!New Karen Read filings
"Read's attorneys say Norfolk Attorney Michael Morrissey, Canton Police Sgt. Michael Lank and Canton Police Det. Kevin Albert are among the officers involved in both cases. The filing also lists Massachusetts State Police Det. Lt. Brian Tully, who is under internal investigation and was transferred following Read's first Trial, and Lt. John Fanning were also involved in both the Birchmore and Read cases.
The defense also asked for unredacted emails, reports, and other communications involving Birchmore.
In other new filings in the Read case, defense attorneys seek all documents in Trooper Michael Proctor's internal affairs investigation. Proctor was the lead investigator in the case, and is currently undergoing a Massachusetts State Police trial board to determine his professional fate for conduct in the Read investigation.
Defense attorneys also seek any correspondence between the district attorney's office and any witness in the case.
Karen Read's attorneys seek unredacted documents from Sandra Birchmore death investigation
Attorneys for Karen Read are seeking a variety of evidence from the state ahead of her second trial, including unredacted documents from the investigation into the death of Sandra Birchmore.www.cbsnews.com
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I don't know all the details of the Birchmore case... was it incompetence or was it "protecting one of our own"? Either of those scenarios seems to still be relevant here.
They all wanted John. He made all those other men look like chopped liver. Those men knew it too and hated him equally. Moo
Being crude has nothing to do with losing a job. I would think the bias charge would make people who actually care about justice concerned. My stepbrother Troy is a cop and he said these guys make a mockery of cops who actually work to do a good job and care about the truth.
BBM.If BH wanted to do away with JOK to be with the girl why frame her?
Text message 10 surgeries in 18 months for colon cancersure, Jan
Timestamp 3:58:17 sharing a bed is archaic (she's a squatter)
She texted "I just snap when I think guys are being creeps. Cant help it.”
Curious if she snapped the night John O’Keefe died and she’s responsible
Last text to BH is on 1/23, then she text BH "John died" (Sat., Jan 29)
Yeah, the 'missing' of all those incriminating texts between the deceased and the defendant by Guarino in the Birchmore case was a real eye opener. Hard to believe it came down to simple incompetence. I suppose the door was not opened as to relevance to have that exposed on Guarino's record for this trial? Moo It's certainly an example of suspect activity involving a cop's potential bias and gross incompetence hindering an investigation against one of their own. Jmo
What?? It was outright misogyny, exploitation of his trusted position as officer of the law, not 'crudeness'.
Someone explained the open door to me with the Johnny Deep trial. They said that one of Johnny's old girlfriends couldn't be called in to testify that he wasn't abusive unless the door was open. So Amber when she was testifying said her name, and his defense team did a fist pump because then, they could now call her in.
The lack of grace and empathy regarding purely personal issues towards individuals about issues that are not case related, crosses from petty imo to obsessive in some instances. It’s troubling to me at times.
