MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #26 Retrial

[Elliot_Alderson]

How is this relevant to the case of where people are living? jmo

What? She was responding to OP who was discussing where John's mom was living.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

DBM

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Yanetti is asking if Clark documented the additional tailight pieces. Clark says no. He was only on 34 Fairview on 2/1/22.

Clark is done. Trooper Evan Brent is up. He searched 34 Fairview on 2/3/22 with Proctor, Buhkenik, and Dicicco.

 

[Wishbone]

The photo's, I'm not sure how he was able to get them in on his testimony lol I started rewatching Tully's testimony from 1st trial last night too, but didn't finish because apparently I need to sleep haha

I was looking for something though.. and maybe someone can help me. It has been said that 4 (?) officers showed up during their search... do we know who they were?
Not one officer has come forward to say, hey that was me or us? I even searched to see how many Canton PD officers they have lol (google tells me 60ish including civilian personnel, so didn't really help lol)

Jackson asked a series of questions about the five people O’Hara saw on scene who were not members of the team. They included three State Police troopers and two Canton Police officers.

O’Hara said they arrived at the scene after the team began its search, but he admitted he didn’t know if they had been there before.

Karen Read trial recap: State police lieutenant describes search for taillight pieces in snow

Here's a recap of the testimony on Tuesday in the Karen Read retrial.

www.masslive.com

 

[bobbymkii]

So I guess because Tully wasn't necessarily fired from his position, he was transferred to a different unit there isn't enough foundation for the defense to draw inference from him not being in that department anymore like they are with Proctor?

Head of Mass. State Police unit that investigated Karen Read loses 6 days of leave

The Massachusetts State Police have disciplined the former head of a unit that investigated Karen Read, making him forfeit six days of accrued leave after an internal investigation. Col. Geoffrey Noble announced Tuesday evening that Det. Lt. Brian Tully, who formerly led the Norfolk County...

www.nbcboston.com

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Trooper Brent documented John’s Traverse and Ring camera at One Meadows. Proctor was with him.

 

[missy1974]

Jackson asked a series of questions about the five people O’Hara saw on scene who were not members of the team. They included three State Police troopers and two Canton Police officers.

O’Hara said they arrived at the scene after the team began its search, but he admitted he didn’t know if they had been there before.

Karen Read trial recap: State police lieutenant describes search for taillight pieces in snow

Here's a recap of the testimony on Tuesday in the Karen Read retrial.

www.masslive.com

Right.. so we still don't know who they are? They seem to know what dept's they belonged to, but no names?

 

[shotgun09]

Is it just me? I have seen twice now since we returned from the extended am break this am the Judge giving some pretty nasty looks towards the defense table. And that is what the camera in the room gets. How many other times has she done this?

 

[Wishbone]

Right.. so we still don't know who they are? They seem to know what dept's they belonged to, but no names?

Right no names and now they are 5

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Right no names and now they are 5

They are being protected, IMO

 

[themonk]

Is it just me? I have seen twice now since we returned from the extended am break this am the Judge giving some pretty nasty looks towards the defense table. And that is what the camera in the room gets. How many other times has she done this?

The jury must be aware of how rigged this all is.

How could they not?

 

[louvillian08]

OK but you need to consider at least the following:

1. If the evidence recovery was not sufficiently documented, the CW would have struggled to get it into evidence in the first place. Yet it came in without objection?

2. Did AJ / Yannetti ever cross the witness about the supposedly missing report?

3. It's clear there is documentation of come kind because it's referred to by both counsel and the witness.

My understanding, and I don't have the time to chase it down at the moment, is that O'Hara was searching, and documentation was created by the detectives. So this would explain why O'Hara was not allowed to see the report to refresh his memory - he didn't create it so he is the wrong witness.

IMO.

Testimony from last trial: Lieutenant Tully
There is no report from the SERT team. Only one made by Tully - who was punished for his behavior during this investigation. Loss of 6 vacation days and transferred to a different unit.

His report was made 12 days after the search, and incorrectly dated Feb 10th, 2021. There was also a whole discourse in this testimony about incorrectly logged evidence regarding the number of pieces, etc.

The jury asked to see the official report from the specialized SERT team. It is a fact that the SERT team did not make a report. Which is not typical.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I believe Peg, John's mother, moved into the house where John lived in Canton. The house in Canton had been owned by the kids parents before they died. JMO

Thank you.

 

[missy1974]

Right no names and now they are 5

Thank you! I will stop looking back in old testimony

It's annoying to me that they have not been identified. Why wouldn't the departments clear that up? Tell us who was there so it can't be implied that they dropped a few tail light pieces here and there while chatting.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Yanetti is crossing Trooper Brent now.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Karen Read retrial: Prosecution asks to present 'Aruba incident' testimony to jury

Prosecutors argue that flirty text messages presented to the jury last week opened the door to testimony about what happened during the vacation about one month before John O'Keefe's death.

www.wcvb.com

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Yanetti is crossing Trooper Brent now.

Yanetti asks if Brent was aware that he was photographing the Traverse 5 days after the incident in question. Brent was not involved at all until 2/3/22.

As of 2/3/22 Brent was part of Crime Scene Services. When he met Proctor at 34 Fairview, Brent testified that he did not know it was the home of a BPD officer.

 

[Wishbone]

Thank you! I will stop looking back in old testimony

It's annoying to me that they have not been identified. Why wouldn't the departments clear that up? Tell us who was there so it can't be implied that they dropped a few tail light pieces here and there while chatting.

So much changing testimony from last trial to this current trial. As has been mentioned their memories seem to get better the longer it has been from the original event. JMOO

 

[Izzylizzy]

How is this relevant to the case of where people are living? jmo

I asked if anyone knew who the children were living with and posters were kind enough to inform me what they knew about the situation.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Brent testifies that he does not have any personal knowledge of how any items he found on 2/3/22 got to the front lawn, or who had access to the lawn. No crime scene tape or tent up. Yanetti is really driving home reasonable doubt.

That’s all for cross. Lally following up.