MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #26 Retrial

[bobbymkii]

I watched the first trial, told myself I would not watch the 2nd, but can't help tuning in.

RSBM

Same! I had absolutely no intention of following the retrial as closely as I followed the first one, yet here I am!

 

[Warwick7]

I am coming in late again. But after watching the trial late I am dumbfounded. CW got pi$$ed at his own medical expert. Bam!!!

Scordi Bello said she observed no injuries on JO that are consistent with a motor vehicle vs pedestrian accident and that JO has injuries on his face that aren’t consistent with the CW’s theory of what happened. Woooweee! He’s then was crying asking her if she knew about “I hit him I hit him”...

Wow!!

It felt like he was badgering his own witness, but she handled it well.

 

[Seni]

Will never forget Jackson's "Shame on you!!" to Trooper Proctor.

It was of course out of order, but totally appropriate, imo

 

[Linda7NJ]

I am coming in late again. But after watching the trial late I am dumbfounded. CW got pi$$ed at his own medical expert. Bam!!!

Scordi Bello said she observed no injuries on JO that are consistent with a motor vehicle vs pedestrian accident and that JO has injuries on his face that aren’t consistent with the CW’s theory of what happened. Woooweee! He’s then was crying asking her if she knew about “I hit him I hit him”...

Wow!!

It felt like he was badgering his own witness, but she handled it well.

But then she said, the Lexus coulda clipped him
Causing the leg injury

Not such a little bruise if ya ask me & the knee aligns with the back bumper

IMO

 

[Derph]

A short recap of how bad a day this was for the CW:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1923095715078668416

 

[missy1974]

I'm watching LYK and rewatching as he goes through the testimony. Brennan got his kicked today. I miss so much the first time around lol

 

[Malleeboy]

This fits so well...

 

[Leilei]

It's no wonder, he was diminished by the cw when they brought in brennan. He has to sit there looking like a third wheel while the cw pick struts his stuff. JMOO

And by "strutting his stuff", you mean "tripping over pieces of lint and falling on his face", right?
Lally might be thinking "at least it's not me"
What a mess the CW is.
I've never seen anything like it.
IMO.

 

[tara83]

But then she said, the Lexus coulda clipped him
Causing the leg injury

Not such a little bruise if ya ask me & the knee aligns with the back bumper

IMO

A 6000 pound SUV hits him and those bruises is all we have? Okay

 

[Soulmagent]

So great. I like the stranger things like vibe . I get from it.

 

[Soulmagent]

A 6000 pound SUV hits him and those bruises is all we have? Okay

If she had of hit him he would had lived most likely. His injuries would be less fatal . Imo

 

[kuromiiiilove]

But then she said, the Lexus coulda clipped him
Causing the leg injury

Not such a little bruise if ya ask me & the knee aligns with the back bumper

IMO

Dr. Scordi-Bello testified today that there was no impact site to the lower body consistent with a vehicle strike.

She said it ‘could’ have been caused by a clip. She also said ‘anything can happen’ on redirect when asked about the bruise. She doesn’t know what caused it. It certainly isn’t proof of any car strike.

 

[jepop]

But then she said, the Lexus coulda clipped him
Causing the leg injury

Not such a little bruise if ya ask me & the knee aligns with the back bumper

IMO

See what I bolded in your post above for reference. The ME testimony was not ambiguous. It's a half centimetre diameter abrasion. This is not a bruise; what it is, is incredibly weak 'evidence' of moving vehicle strike. This is non-evidence evidence just like everything else Brennan has so woefully served up to date. Most can see this and my guess is the jury are seeing it too. IMO.

 

[waldojabba]

Don't forget the smashed cocktail glass from the bar, too! Probably dropped with the phone.

They never matched that glass they found to a glass used at the waterfall bar. The glass they found was of no consequence.
The glass John had with him leaving the car , if he indeed had one in his hand , might still be with the Albert’s. Just another thing we will never know - if he had the glass or not. For all we know he threw it out the window on the way to the Albert’s house.
JMO

 

[bobbymkii]

From my (admittedly limited) experience, if the cause of death is as heavily disputed as it is in this trial then it's usually an absolute nightmare for the prosecution to deal with. If they're struggling to prove, with scientific evidence, that this man died because he was hit by a car then no amount of witnesses claiming Karen said "I hit him" in their presence is going to meet their immense burden.

If they had a witness who said "I SAW HER hit him" then it would be different. But they can't do that, and I think we all know why.

JMO

 

[Seni]

lol I think its as low as you can go - dont get me wrong - this whole thing is a farce
But .. the judge asked Alessi to come up with an alternative to what he was asking for
by tomorrow morning
So we will see
JMO

I suspect defence was ready for something like this. When judge asked Alessi when defence would present Arcca he was vague, not giving her lee-way. Suspect that tomorrow he will say all guns firing and ready to go, move this to Monday within his schedule


ETA. Nothing is going to change in that report, but maybe had been scheduled as one of the final testimonies

 

[Linda7NJ]

A 6000 pound SUV hits him and those bruises is all we have? Okay

Clipped him - yes

IMO

 

[Linda7NJ]

Dr. Scordi-Bello testified today that there was no impact site to the lower body consistent with a vehicle strike.

She said it ‘could’ have been caused by a clip. She also said ‘anything can happen’ on redirect when asked about the bruise. She doesn’t know what caused it. It certainly isn’t proof of any car strike.

*COULD HAVE BEEN

isn’t that exactly what Karen Read said?

“What if I clipped him in the knee”
IMO

 

[tara83]

Clipped him - yes

IMO

Going 25 miles an hour? Uhh no way.

 

[Linda7NJ]

From my (admittedly limited) experience, if the cause of death is as heavily disputed as it is in this trial then it's usually an absolute nightmare for the prosecution to deal with. If they're struggling to prove, with scientific evidence, that this man died because he was hit by a car then no amount of witnesses claiming Karen said "I hit him" in their presence is going to meet their immense burden.

If they had a witness who said "I SAW HER hit him" then it would be different. But they can't do that, and I think we all know why.

JMO

Last trial IMO wasn’t presented nearly as well and there were still 9 jurors ready to convict IIRC