MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #28 Retrial

[Anniesflowers]

@Tortoise - that was a good post this morning (thread 27) where you referenced 2 video interviews of KR saying such things as I was “looking to find him on the side of the road, I was expecting to find him” and (both quotes are about the 6:30 am trip to Fairview with JM and Kerry) “he’s roughly where I left him”.
Add to that her father’s comment that KR said, “Dad I think I struck something…..I remember backing up and hitting something”
at 1:45 here:

Not to mention the frantic chants of “Did I hit him?”
Why would she say these things? IMO, it’s because she tried to hit him and possibly did graze him on the knee. Why else would she keep talking about hitting him with her car if she really thought he was in the house?
I think parties on each side of the aisle are trying to hide something here. Clearly, IMO, LE was inept at best, and corrupt at worst, but I don’t think she’s 100% clean here.
That being said, there’s no way a jury can find her guilty - reasonable doubt appears in every aspect of this case.

All we need to hear and see evidence that Officer O’Keefe was hit by a car. Without proof of a vehicle strike, the CW has nothing but a bunch of stories. Karen Read questioning what happened to John, ‘could she have hit him?’ Is a natural question to ask yourself, when you wake up stressed out, still intoxicated and don’t find your BF home with his niece. Her questioning her own potential culpability is not an admission, it is someone desperately trying to figure out what happened to someone she loved. Moo.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

So how will people twist themselves into a pretzel this time to make it seem bad for KR?

I don’t know, and yet it’s currently being done.. MOO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

There's been ZERO actually evidence that KR hit JOK. It's staggering to me that they have yet to show how she hit him!!

No collision.

No injuries consistent with a collision.

Why are we even here????? MOO

 

[Miss Poovy]

I haven’t ever seen where an attorney is allowed to be so close to the person testifying. Does the defense not own a copier?

 

[HarmonyE.]

I haven’t ever seen where an attorney is allowed to be so close to the person testifying. Does the defense not own a copier?

The courtroom is smaller than a walk-in closet.

 

[Leilei]

Jackson wouldn’t lie … now would he?

Nope, and he's not lying on his LI page, either.
OP is being misleading, IMO.

 

[missy1974]

Did the Lexus have a GPS available on her screen? Has this ever even been addressed?

If not, I doubt she could have found her way directly to 1 Meadows without at least some difficulty. Backtracking to Waterfall is not the most direct route. More time?

Right! I was hoping to see the data that was pulled from the car. There should be more data then what we saw in the report/reports today, or pieces of the reports (obviously lol) I like data... not opinions on the data.. just show me the goods LOL

I have kept this in mind when thinking about times. In a town, that you are familiar with, but not that area. If I was by myself at night, and felt disorientated to where I was, I would find a marker or a street I recognized and go from there.

I also thought that it may have been an issue in the early morning hours... not knowing her way back there, to 34 Fairview... and maybe not even knowing the actual address?

 

[Linda7NJ]

All we need to hear and see evidence that Officer O’Keefe was hit by a car. Without proof of a vehicle strike, the CW has nothing but a bunch of stories. Karen Read questioning what happened to John, ‘could she have hit him?’ Is a natural question to ask yourself, when you wake up stressed out, still intoxicated and don’t find your BF home with his niece. Her questioning her own potential culpability is not an admission, it is someone desperately trying to figure out what happened to someone she loved. Moo.

Imagine if Higgins or anyone else the defense accuses of killing him had left those voicemails on John O’Keefe’s phone and ran around yelling “I HIT HIM” to everyone- and left broken taillight pieces of their vehicle near his body - along with a cocktail glass & straw he left the bar with.
With less than a 30 second timeframe discrepancy, of when Karen Read backed up and John’s phone locked and the phone never moved again and neither did he.

IMO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Imagine if Higgins or anyone else the defense accuses of killing him had left those voicemails on John O’Keefe’s phone and ran around yelling “I HIT HIM” to everyone- and left broken taillight pieces of their vehicle near his body - along with a cocktail glass & straw he left the bar with.
With less than a 30 second timeframe discrepancy, of when Karen Read backed up and John’s phone locked and the phone never moved again and neither did he.

IMO

This is an appeal to outrage fallacy. You could also imagine a defense witness ‘misrepresenting’ their degrees in the way Burgess did. I have a feeling many on this thread would not be granting them the same leniency they are granting Burgess.

A voicemail does not a murder make, yet they keep popping up because of the pesky lack of concrete, physical evidence that Karen hit John. I won’t even get into the more contested ‘facts’ you claim, only that only one side claims them. MOO

 

[Miss Poovy]

I don’t think it’s unreasonable for the jury to think the Defense Attorney is harping on the resume instead of the data.

 

[shotgun09]

Jackson just lost ALL credibility, right?

Do you mean Alessi ? Because Alan Jackson has been practically silent for the last week. It's been the Bobby Alessi show for the defense. IMO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Jackson just lost ALL credibility, right?

Wrong. Jackson did 0 cross today.

 

[Anniesflowers]

Imagine if Higgins or anyone else the defense accuses of killing him had left those voicemails on John O’Keefe’s phone and ran around yelling “I HIT HIM” to everyone- and left broken taillight pieces of their vehicle near his body - along with a cocktail glass & straw he left the bar with.
With less than a 30 second timeframe discrepancy, of when Karen Read backed up and John’s phone locked and the phone never moved again and neither did he.

IMO

None of that proves he was hit by a car. Everything else, imo, is just noise.

 

[tara83]

He never updated his LinkedIn page

IIRC

Did he submit false credentials to a federal court?

 

[Warwick7]

I haven’t ever seen where an attorney is allowed to be so close to the person testifying. Does the defense not own a copier?

You'll have to ask the Judge. She decided the seating arrangement and where people will stand.

 

[Miss Poovy]

You'll have to ask the Judge. She decided the seating arrangement and where people will stand.

I’m surprised the witness is not deaf.

 

[HarmonyE.]

I’m surprised the witness is not deaf.

Least of his problems!

 

[tara83]

I’m surprised the witness is not deaf.

He had bigger problems being caught in his owns lies I would imagine.

 

[arielilane]

She believes John died around 12:25 am to 12:30 am ET...
Most of us have seen the video of John leaving the Waterfall bar at 12:11 am ET.

Just amazing that she would provide such an admission.
Wow. Unbelievable. She doesnt know how to remain silent. jmo



5/20/2025 15:14:29

Brennan plays a video clip where Read says they believe O'Keefe died around 12:25am-12:30am -->

clip we think he died around 1225 1230 - David Bienick.mp4

drive.google.com

Karen Read retrial: Expert defends analysis of SUV, phone data

Shanon Burgess, a digital forensics examiner for a national firm called Aperture, testified that he found a computer chip in the SUV that had not previously been examined.

www.wcvb.com

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Didnt know Jackson an LA District Attorney??? My understanding is he ran for DA in 2012 and lost.
Maybe he better update his LinkedIn. KR too!

Alan Jackson (lawyer) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He definitely worked for the LA District Attorney's office