MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #28 Retrial

[Maat99]

Coming back from sidebar, Alessi is asking about the 1162-2 TSE

So every single one of the user interactions listed - locks, steps, etc. - occurred after the 1162-2 TSE.

Burgess says steps and pocket state are not always indicative of user interaction. Alessi says ok, let’s talk about the device lock event that you agree with a user interaction. Really driving home that even Dr. Welcher stated that the user interaction occurs 26 seconds after the end of the 116-2- event. Burgess says again, ‘Yes, of the unadjusted clock’. Dude, don’t throw your coworker who actually HAS a degree under the bus!

Again, I’m really curious if Dr Welcher is going to be willing to co-sign this hot mess of an analysis and stand by his revised conclusions.

 

[mzmarymac]

Whether inadvertently or subconsciously or whatever, Judge Cannone is single-handedly assuring that no one will ever be able to refute the acquittal that is coming in this case. No one can claim judge bias for the defendant. The civil case will go nowhere, because even with all of the cards stacked against the defense, they are proving each and every day that not only is there reasonable doubt of her guilt, but there is far more (>50%) evidence that she is completely innocent than she is guilty. IMO

 

[HarmonyE.]

Was Karen Read's insurance claim denied in this case?

Insurance claim for the damage to the taillight? I doubt that's entered her head and she hasn't seen the car in nearly 3.5 years.

Her insurance company should handle the wrongful death claim brought by Paul O'Keefe. The lawsuit is being held in abeyance at this time as she faces the criminal charges.

 

[missy1974]

Again, I’m really curious if Dr Welcher is going to be willing to co-sign this hot mess of an analysis and stand by his revised conclusions.

I'm hoping he is the next witness

 

[ShadyLady]

Interesting how the cross always longer than the direct. jmo​

Might take longer to plug all the holes in a sieve.....

 

[adot0902]

Again, I’m really curious if Dr Welcher is going to be willing to co-sign this hot mess of an analysis and stand by his revised conclusions.

I wouldn't blame him for loading up a car and running to the closest Border. I would have been sipping mojitos in Cancun by 5:00pm yesterday if I were the good Mr. Welcher.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Interesting how the cross always longer than the direct. jmo​

Yeah, it’s almost like the defense has to clean up the prosecution’s mess and make sense of their half-baked witnesses. Shocking! MOO

 

[rescuemom]

Interesting how the cross always longer than the direct. jmo​

That's when the truth is revealed.

 

[Maat99]

Well, there goes ‘Alessi accepting the 1162 cycle’ as some were saying on this thread.

Yes - that was definitely an extreme case of wishful thinking lol. IMO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Now onto a page of DiSogra’s report, which was responding to Burgess’ 1/30/25 report, that Burgess referenced in his 5/8/25 report. What a mouthful!

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Now onto a page of DiSogra’s report, which was responding to Burgess’ 1/30/25 report, that Burgess referenced in his 5/8/25 report. What a mouthful!

IMO Burgess is reallyyyy struggling to explain how/why DiSogra’s retort to his 1/30/25 report is ‘wrong’. Maybe he should take one from Trooper Paul’s book: It Just Is!

 

[Forest_Wood]

Whether inadvertently or subconsciously or whatever, Judge Cannone is single-handedly assuring that no one will ever be able to refute the acquittal that is coming in this case. No one can claim judge bias for the defendant. The civil case will go nowhere, because even with all of the cards stacked against the defense, they are proving each and every day that not only is there reasonable doubt of her guilt, but there is far more (>50%) evidence that she is completely innocent than she is guilty. IMO

And that is exactly what we wanted and needed in this absurd case. For there to be zero question this time around that Karen Read is Not Guilty of what the CW alleged occurred on JOKs final night.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Crazy that this is all about a reversal event, not even a collision event, because there was no collision event registered by Karen’s Lexus (because there was no collision IMO). We are soooo into the weeds trying to find a way to paint Karen to be guilty.

 

[Warwick7]

Look who else now has a STAMP across his page!!! Whoa!!

 

[kuromiiiilove]

So all three reports Burgess reviewed established that the 1162-2 TSE occurred before the last user activity on John’s phone. Burgess once again insists he is correct over DiSogra, Whiffen, and Welcher, saying ‘using unadjusted or inaccurate time stamps, yes’. Dude…

 

[Soulmagent]

Going to check my robot on this side bar. Save me my lunch break for important stuff.

 

[waldojabba]

I wouldn't blame him for loading up a car and running to the closest Border. I would have been sipping mojitos in Cancun by 5:00pm yesterday if I were the good Mr. Welcher.

Welcher is an EVP. PhD/ms/bs education. So kind of a top dog.
He definitely needs to clean this mess up in some fashion to salvage the company.
It might include discrediting this guy and revising his report on the stand.
He needs to bow to the greater good for Aperture and do what that takes
IMO.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Burgess is now saying he did not ‘depart’ from his original report, but ‘clarified’ it in his May 8th report. But his 1/30/25 report does not address at all whether the 1162-2 TSE occurred after the last user activity on John’s phone. But he did in his 5/8/25 report, placing the 1162-2 TSE *after* the last activity in John’s phone.

He says that isn’t a change, just a ‘clarification’…

 

[missy1974]

Burgess is saying he didn't know what Welcher was trying to connect to 1162-2

This stuff is hard to follow... we have the ability to go back and look and to read comments here or anywhere. This cannot be easy for the jury. IMO

I am listening to see if the defense has conceded that the 1162 techstream event is that night. Possibly? But as of now, Alessi's questions to Burgess are specific to others reports that say it is or that are responding to reports that say it is the event. My understanding is that DiSorga's report is just a reply to the Jan 2025 Burgess report, and Burgess said he did the May 8th report in response to that.

I'm a bit annoyed that we don't get to see the full reports or have them available lol

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Burgess is now saying he did not ‘depart’ from his original report, but ‘clarified’ it in his May 8th report. But his 1/30/25 report does not address at all whether the 1162-2 TSE occurred after the last user activity on John’s phone. But he did in his 5/8/25 report, placing the 1162-2 TSE *after* the last activity in John’s phone.

He says that isn’t a change, just a ‘clarification’…

Burgess abandoned his call log analysis from his 1/30/25 report in his 5/8/25 report. He says he ‘didn’t depart from it, he used another method.’ Alessi openly chuckles here.

In his 5/8/25 report, Burgess ignored the call logs because ‘they cannot be assumed to apply to other time frames as stated in the initial report’.