MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #29 Retrial

[lohrtabitha]

So it is. But his opinion was that it was a backwards fall onto the ground that caused it. No fists mentioned by anyone.

Wasn't talking about the back of the head. I was talking about the laceration over the eye. Which wasn't caused by a fall in his opinion.

 

[tara83]

There was no fraud, just laziness in attending to his online accounts, been there done that. It's not like he testified inaccurately. He found data that was overlooked and other data that was stating inaccuracies. He corrected both and the new picture was not a good one for KR and her lawyers, when JO's phone and the Lexus clock were synced. It proves JO was right there (not in the house) during KR's angry and drunken maneuvers with 4,500 lbs of vehicle. That's why this ridiculous and overblown quibbling about schooling started, because Mr. Burgess data analysis is spot on and can't be impeached.
AJMO

Sigh. Being an expert witness and submitting false credentials in a federal court is a serious thing.

 

[Soulmagent]

I am just now watching what I missed today , and I just saw the clothing scrapping photos.
Come on ! No way in heck was all that on his clothes ,last week we heard the scrapper girl say she found a few bits . Those pictures look like someone scooped the contents from a drainage ditch or curb trash after a rain on a busy street near a dollar store.
Todays feed time stamps 405:00 ish.

 

[HarmonyE.]

Sigh. Being an expert witness and submitting false credentials in a federal court is a serious thing.

Looks like his employer may not be standing by him for much longer.

Both his fake educational credentials and his entire CV have been deleted from their webpage.

I'm betting the second this trial is over he disappears from their page altogether.

Trial experts are expected to be ethical and honest. They're of no use to anyone when they are neither.

 

[acutename]

Dr. Aizik Wolf, a neurosurgeon, testified extensively about O'Keefe's injuries, describing them as consistent with a fall backward, leading to a "coup contre coup" brain injury. He explained the mechanics of such injuries, emphasizing that O'Keefe likely did not die immediately but succumbed to a combination of brain swelling and hypothermia.

"It's impossible to know whether he immediately became unconscious but his injuries were very substantial. And it's more probably than not that he quickly became unconscious and was unable to do functional activities," Wolfe said.

Wolf noted that O'Keefe's core body temperature of 80 degrees Fahrenheit indicated severe hypothermia, which would have led to organ failure and death. His testimony suggested that immediate medical intervention could have prolonged O'Keefe's life.

Jurors appeared engaged, with some taking detailed notes during his explanations.

Brain surgeon: O'Keefe likely died of brain swelling, hypothermia, not immediately

Before witnesses began testimony, the judge asked to speak with each juror individually.

www.wcvb.com

5/21/2025

I am thinking about the backward fall- most people do not topple backward like a downed tree and hit their head first. I slipped on snow covered ice this winter and fell on my butt. Of course JO was supposedly drunk, but the flat fast fall seems more like passing out or fainting, or being pushed, IMO.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Besides the phone record showing JM's 5am 38 sec call to sister Nicole Albert which both claim they never spoke in Season 1 Carrie Roberts testified that it was right after the ambulance left with JOK was when JM went into the Albert residence.

I can't believe JM didn't run to get sister/BIL as soon as she arrived or when help arrived.
She waited what?
min. 15-20 minutes?

imo

 

[lohrtabitha]

So it is. But his opinion was that it was a backwards fall onto the ground that caused it. No fists mentioned by anyone.

You are mistaken . Rewatch the testimony. We are talking about the laceration above the right eye which Dr. Wolf said was caused by force not the fall. Please rewatch the part where Alessi is questioning him.

 

[geevee]

JO's clothing has massive chain of custody and log problems. Proctor, of course, had access to the clothing for many weeks.

No bodily material found on the taillight either.

And Jackson did an awesome job with his graphic proving, once again, that the glass on the bumper didn't match any glass at the scene, and that dirty disgraced former Trooper Proctor is the one who "found" the magic bumper glass that someone survived an over 60 mile trek in a blizzard.

And let's not forget the inverted sally port video made to look like Proctor was nowhere near the tail light in question. Shenanigans wherever that man lurked.

 

[Forest_Wood]

I’m sure Lucky means well. But it’s been established that he ran into a basketball net that same night while plowing two streets away from Fairview. That doesn’t give me a lot of comfort that he was scanning the sides of the road…..or at least that he was seeing what he needed to see.
In addition, Lally raised the point in T1 that Lucky gave a different timetable to the FBI than he did to MSP during interviews.
So, I’m reluctant to find his testimony as accurate.

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Are you aware of how easy it is to run into something, anything, with a big truck like Lucky drove? And with a huge plow on it too? It wouldn't be unusual to catch something that was left on the side of the road with a plow on a dump truck. Any big vehicle like that, even buses and garbage trucks, scrape other vehicles often. That is precisely why operators must be conscientious at observing everything around them constantly, otherwise they get blamed and it goes on their record.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Robert Alessi has a rare intellectual superiority as an attorney.
IMO:

 

[Maat99]

Looks like his employer may not be standing by him for much longer.

Both his fake educational credentials and his entire CV have been deleted from their webpage.

I'm betting the second this trial is over he disappears from their page altogether.

Trial experts are expected to be ethical and honest. They're of no use to anyone when they are neither.

They must not have realized that his analysis is spot on and can’t be impeached

 

[Warwick7]

There was no fraud, just laziness in attending to his online accounts, been there done that. It's not like he testified inaccurately. He found data that was overlooked and other data that was stating inaccuracies. He corrected both and the new picture was not a good one for KR and her lawyers, when JO's phone and the Lexus clock were synced. It proves JO was right there (not in the house) during KR's angry and drunken maneuvers with 4,500 lbs of vehicle. That's why this ridiculous and overblown quibbling about schooling started, because Mr. Burgess data analysis is spot on and can't be impeached.
AJMO

Take a peek starting at 3:30 or even starting at 6:30. The media does not feel the same way as you do. As a matter of fact it is quite the opposite.

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[Luna20]

Looks like his employer may not be standing by him for much longer.

Both his fake educational credentials and his entire CV have been deleted from their webpage.

I'm betting the second this trial is over he disappears from their page altogether.

Trial experts are expected to be ethical and honest. They're of no use to anyone when they are neither.

Exactly! Ethics and honesty are important for any witness but the emphasis on an ‘Expert’ Witness goes deeper.

Lying about your credentials should be a reason for eliminating an experts testimony. I’m glad that he was exposed.

 

[lohrtabitha]

And Jackson made a good point with the glass and the possibility it was planted by Proctor. And if that was planted, it makes the tail light "crack vs shattered to pieces" and planted at the scene a little bit more believable. If you are willing to place some pieces of glass on a bumper, why not the tail light too.

JMO

And don't forget a lone hair too. Mo

 

[missy1974]

His shirt was actually laying in the hospital floor which is amazing to me.

We went through this last week. Then it was taken to their (MP/YB) office and laid out on butcher paper to dry for days before it was ever bagged and labelled by MP. It was not secured in an evidence room, and after bagged was still not secured in an evidence room or lab, it sat for weeks before being taken to the lab. Granted, not everyone had access to their office, but the one person that the defense accuses of planting evidence... well, he did!

 

[Warwick7]

We went through this last week. Then it was taken to their (MP/YB) office and laid out on butcher paper to dry for days before it was ever bagged and labelled by MP. It was not secured in an evidence room, and after bagged was still not secured in an evidence room or lab, it sat for weeks before being taken to the lab. Granted, not everyone had access to their office, but the one person that the defense accuses of planting evidence... well, he did!

And how long did LE say Proctor drove around with this bag in his truck?? I think he said days and days....

 

[keek]

I am thinking about the backward fall- most people do not topple backward like a downed tree and hit their head first. I slipped on snow covered ice this winter and fell on my butt. Of course JO was supposedly drunk, but the flat fast fall seems more like passing out or fainting, or being pushed, IMO.

He is a neurosurgeon and did not study or see in person JOK's injuries, so it is really a surmise that any one could surmise if not maybe, knowing all the details, no dirt or debris in that deep gouge on the TOP part of JOK'S head. The forensic pathologist or coroner are the ones to understand what they are seeing and studying. He was brought up from Miami? It's just really a stretch by Brennan. His 'expert witness' did not work out well this past week as we know, Burgess. Awfully awful this trial twice based on so much proven lies and fired lead detective and all based on Jen McCabe's brilliant idea instead of letting the innocent plow driver take the fall as originally planned inside that house. IMO

 

[HarmonyE.]

As those pesky ar

We went through this last week. Then it was taken to their (MP/YB) office and laid out on butcher paper to dry for days before it was ever bagged and labelled by MP. It was not secured in an evidence room, and after bagged was still not secured in an evidence room or lab, it sat for weeks before being taken to the lab. Granted, not everyone had access to their office, but the one person that the defense accuses of planting evidence... well, he did!

It really is extraordinary how every weird thing about the evidence in this case has Proctor's filthy fingerprints all over it.

Or not extraordinary if, like me, you are fully convinced he planted that evidence.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Colin was also there already when Higgins arrived so it wouldn't be him. And as Higg's is good pals with the Albert brothers, surely he wouldn't call 17 year old Colin a tall, dark, unknown man?

Also, I recall from the first trial, he tried to explain it as "someone's brother". Presumably Ryan Nagel who was indeed a party goer's brother? But Ryan never got out of Ricky's car and certainly never entered the house.

Well, unless Higgins saw Colin as he was leaving, saying goodbye to the girls.
I'm not sure of the details of when BH saw a tall dark man. BA testified he wasn't "good" friends with BH (believe it or not!), which surprised me to hear him say that, and Higgins had only been over to Brian A's house once before IIRC, so I don't think he would know Colin as BA's nephew. I think they were mostly drinking buddies at the bars. It could have just as easily been John too. We won't ever know. MOO

 

[missy1974]

Exactly! Ethics and honesty are important for any witness but the emphasis on an ‘Expert’ Witness goes deeper.

Lying about your credentials should be a reason for eliminating an experts testimony. I’m glad that he was exposed.

I just don't understand how he was even allowed to be an "expert".

I have watched trials where experts are questioned extensively on their credentials before they are deemed an "expert". No one vetted this guy? I think the defense got lucky enough to find the lie about his education before he testified, I don't think they had it before trial started. They must have thought that it would discredit him so badly that it outweighed a motion to exclude him at this point.
I don't see many trials where at the end of the State or prosecutions cases, most people following say there is reasonable doubt, but this is definitely one lol