MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #30 Retrial

[Warwick7]

When you work back the key cycle 1162... ends up when the lexus is in the possession of the State...

So there we have it...

I know I'm coming in late, but you just nailed it with this post. Everything comes back to 1162 being the stamp when her vehicle is already impounded by LE.

 

[Angelwatch]

I actually took a screenshot of the "example" he used in his slide show from direct testimony (sorry I had captions on lol)

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Thank you! I went looking for that yesterday and couldn’t find it. This board was so slow at the time and I couldn’t comment. I didn’t find the case study at all similar. Look at all those abrasions on his lower body. Seemed an odd comparison.

 

[Derph]

Wow...just wow...Has anyone here ever seen a judge be so blatant in preventing a defense lawyer to cross examine a witness. What has happened to trying to just get to the truth?

Disgraceful conduct by the judge here.

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1928053818157064691

This needs to be posted all typed out it's that important:

"Don’t underestimate the significance of Higgins’ Jeep. It’s a problem for the prosecution. It either undermines Welcher (in terms of the alleged crash location and/or his dubious method of cherry-picking non scientific “facts” to support his opinion) or it undermines Jennifer McCabe (and Higgins if the defense calls him). Neither one of these possibilities is a good one for the prosecution."

 

[Angelwatch]

This needs to be posted all typed out it's that important:

"Don’t underestimate the significance of Higgins’ Jeep. It’s a problem for the prosecution. It either undermines Welcher (in terms of the alleged crash location and/or his dubious method of cherry-picking non scientific “facts” to support his opinion) or it undermines Jennifer McCabe (and Higgins if the defense calls him). Neither one of these possibilities is a good one for the prosecution."

In trial 1, it was both Alberts, Jen McCabe, Brian Higgins, and Matt McCabe. They all testified to seeing the white Jeep at the mailbox. So Welcher throwing it out because most of the testimony didn’t see a white Jeep isn’t accurate.

 

[Wishbone]

I was responding to a post that claimed 87 feet wasn't mentioned in testimony.

It was mentioned, but according to JW's own testimony it traveled more than than. JMOO

 

[Tortoise]

It was mentioned, but according to JW's own testimony it traveled more than than. JMOO

Thanks, I am aware of that.

 

[Wishbone]

Thanks, I am aware of that.

you're welcome

 

[louvillian08]

It's very hard to understand why Alessi tried to start disputing exactly where his client was driving 24 mph in reverse.

Every moment you talk about that in front of the Jury seems like a bad moment. What is a few feet getting you?

If Alessi has some analysis to dispute that 1162 is from some other journey instead of Fairview, why not put it to the witness? Instead he is letting that concrete dry.

I continue to feel my prediction from 2 weeks ago is accurate. DiSogra appears to have adopted Welchers Berla extraction on that point. They now argue about seconds and feet, but not that it was Fairview.

MOO

Because it's not a "few feet." There is a possibility the key cycle is wrong. Even if it's correct, as has been explained on here multiple times, there is a .9 mile radius from the Cedarcrest 3 point turn where the second event could have occurred. There is NOTHING in the data that gives a location of the trigger events.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Welcher is a complete buffoon, trying to tell Alessi to advance slides. Who does he think he is? Just answer the dang questions MOO

 

[Anniesflowers]

I think it's to test under the same conditions, as far as possible. To see if anything affects the outcome that wouldn't necessarily be obvious otherwise, such as how clothing might inter-react or change outcome, for instance on the jeans there was a scratch on the car where there was a metal stud, and IMO as regards other clothing for instance - a cap peak might hit somewhere, certain shoe soles might affect movement, a shirt sleeve length might receive damage etc. I believe that is how scientific tests are conducted by replicating all details as far as possible. Otherwise, you would get a defence lawyer saying 'but you weren't wearing the same jeans the victim was wearing, so how can you compare the two?'

I don't think he engaged in subliminal messaging. There is no evidence for him being unprofessional or biased. JMO

IMO, the simple fact he didn’t start his investigation with a hypothesis points to someone who is cherry-picking information to suit their preferred outcome or result. That says confirmation bias to me. He spent a lot of time tracking down clothing that would match OJO’s outfits from that night. He should have probably spent more time reading ALL of the reports and/or doing his own work.

 

[jepop]

Because it's not a "few feet." There is a possibility the key cycle is wrong. Even if it's correct, as has been explained on here multiple times, there is a .9 mile radius from the Cedarcrest 3 point turn where the second event could have occurred. There is NOTHING in the data that gives a location of the trigger events.

And the trigger events do not equal an impact. There is simply no solid evidence for what the Welcher is claiming. It's speculated and essentially a made up scenario, one of many, but because of his unchecked confirmation bias and jmo paycheck, Welcher testifies as if he is somehow independent of influence. Moo

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1927918705666887771

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Also unbelievable that Judge Cannone has not instructed Welcher to simply answer the questions. I mean, she even told Buhkenik that, and I feel like Welcher is even more oppositional!

 

[arielilane]

Dr. Welcher talented engineer and well respected. I know many engineers, and I feel I know this man. Love it!

Re: ARCCA witnesses
-- Did not go to the crime scene
-- Did not view the vehicle
-- Did not look at tech stream data
Yet, Alessi wanted to know if Dr. Welcher went to 34F residence and garage.

One of many talents of ADA Brennan: he does not need to object because of confidence in witnesses' testimony.

Alessi is a dual multi-tasking attorney- he helps the CW.

My thoughts are w/madam court reporter

Matter of opinion

 

[Younger Sister]

Welcher has diarrhea of the mouth. Why can't he just ANSWER the question without so much elaboration?

 

[Forest_Wood]

It's clear that Welcher didn't do much of what he is testifying to and that others did the actual work while he is trying to put it all together. That's why he insists on looking at his computer all the time, which would have his notes. This is why he's having such a hard time as an "Expert". He's lost without his notes on his computer files.
MOO

 

[jepop]

Also unbelievable that Judge Cannone has not instructed Welcher to simply answer he questions. I mean, she even told Buhkenik that, and I feel like Welcher is even more oppositional!

It's because this is an extremely critical point of trial. Imo the judge is of course aware of that and this is the best chance the cw has to potentially bring jurors around to considering their absurd contentions. Moo

 

[kuromiiiilove]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1927918705666887771

Are these people the best and brightest Brennan could find to testify? My god. MOO

 

[missy1974]

my guess is... ARCAA has evidence the photos are photoshoped LOL

I will have to rewatch this later on 2x speed, I'm a bit preoccupied, but I'm happy to see Alessi is addressing the "bump"