MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #31 Retrial

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  • #561
To see her tail light's condition I believe is the point of that. IMO

If that

This was pre-trial.

Yes.

Green testified Karen’s GPS data was deleted from her phone in April 2022, in Proctor’s custody. Lally moves on quick.

Library video, Ring video, Sallyport video, Karen’s GPS - all deleted

There is a Twitter clip for proof.

This is pre-trial #2 so did Green testify in trial #2? I don't recall him and I've watched every day. If he didn't that means JC didn't allow it. I didn't watch pre-trial as not all that is presented gets to the jury. Trying to follow and form an opinion is difficult when posters keep bringing up trial #1 and pre-trial issues. JMO
 
  • #562
I didn’t catch that-he was face down? That is not at all what I expected. Hmm

IMO
He wasn’t face down according to Karen - who reached him first, followed by Kerry -

Jen fetched blankets and called 911

imo
 
  • #563
She was mistaken - Kerry & Karen reached him first - she made the 911 call.
IMO
Listen to the 911 call. JM did the call and said they turned him over.
 
  • #564
Jen Mccabe said in her 911 call, that they flipped him over. Whose lying?
I mean, JMc throws in distractors in all her testimony time, why not then. She called 911, whispering it was said, there's a man ..No mention that his name was..that he was to be at a party that night of the lawn house, OR a police officer. It was all detached and removed. NO, dispatch does not need that information but knowing dispatch is sending Canton PD and FD to that address in Canton, give it a quick mention for them. She did tell them she thinks he's gone. Proceeded then to talk via seeing on the vid, relaxed and calm manner, along with the cop who I think was Lank, waving arms around, pointing. It was surreal while KR was frantic of course, normal behavior.. Jen was not freaked out or invoved. Never mind not going into the house to get the first responder B.Albert, telling them, asking what happened. he is on your front yard, distraught. Nope. Cop told her go tell them. Then her testimony on that was bizarre of course. First trial and this. Really.. IMO
 
  • #565
Meanwhile....
We have the drama in the courtroom that should continue tomorrow:

Early in trial, Brennan: We are not calling MP to the stand. ( We are avoiding/hiding him)

Friday, Yanetti : We aren't calling Proctor either ! We don't have to !
Just because YOU want us to, doesn't mean we have to ! So there! If you want him, YOU call him ! ( On rebuttal )

Brennan: Judge This isn't fair ! Make them call Proctor !!

Judge: ?????????
 
  • #566
I mean, JMc throws in distractors in all her testimony time, why not then. She called 911, whispering it was said, there's a man ..No mention that his name was..that he was to be at a party that night of the lawn house, OR a police officer. It was all detached and removed. NO, dispatch does not need that information but knowing dispatch is sending Canton PD and FD to that address in Canton, give it a quick mention for them. She did tell them she thinks he's gone. Proceeded then to talk via seeing on the vid, relaxed and calm manner, along with the cop who I think was Lank, waving arms around, pointing. It was surreal while KR was frantic of course, normal behavior.. Jen was not freaked out or invoved. Never mind not going into the house to get the first responder B.Albert, telling them, asking what happened. he is on your front yard, distraught. Nope. Cop told her go tell them. Then her testimony on that was bizarre of course. First trial and this. Really.. IMO
People react in different ways. Personally, I’m the detached, “just the facts” type during the crisis. I do what needs to be done….
I fall apart later.
I don’t run around screaming.

Imo
 
  • #567
People react in different ways. Personally, I’m the detached, “just the facts” type during the crisis. I do what needs to be done….
I fall apart later.
I don’t run around screaming.

Imo
Additionally, Jen McCabe is the 'sit there in the witness box and lie' type.
 
  • #568
June 1 at 8PM

 
  • #569
People react in different ways. Personally, I’m the detached, “just the facts” type during the crisis. I do what needs to be done….
I fall apart later.
I don’t run around screaming.

Imo
Well pretending to be her own sister to the FBI is one way to handle things.....
 
  • #570
People react in different ways. Personally, I’m the detached, “just the facts” type during the crisis. I do what needs to be done….
I fall apart later.
I don’t run around screaming.

Imo
Same here, calm and detached in a crisis, and quite annoyed by those that run around in circles getting nothing done but freaking out loudly.
I can say that- but I’ve not found a loved one bleeding and nearly dead and cold to touch.
That may freak me out in reality- not sure.

I don’t take the calmness in a crisis as something it isn’t.

IMO
 
  • #571
Interesting......The company site for Aperture no longer allows you to search their experts. You now have to 'submit a request'. Funny that...
Last week, we were able to see Burgess and Welcher on their site.

Not anymore.....

I can search and get a result. Just did it. Image is screen shot from my phone so no link. The "submit a request" is for an in person consult hence "be anywhere within 24-48 hours."
 

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  • #573
Reminder -
Both ARCCA experts testified Karen couldn’t have broken her taillight tapping John’s vehicle
Neither ruled out the possibility of a swipe or clip

IMO
 
  • #574
People react in different ways. Personally, I’m the detached, “just the facts” type during the crisis. I do what needs to be done….
I fall apart later.
I don’t run around screaming.

Imo
Run around screaming. Have seen enough of distraught and shocked people upon coming across or hearing their beloved were killed, 'running around screaming'. Natural human reaction, but. IMO
 
  • #575
Reminder -
Both ARCCA experts testified Karen couldn’t have broken her taillight tapping John’s vehicle
Neither ruled out the possibility of a swipe or clip

IMO
Link please?
 
  • #576
He received Read’s phone the same night. Guarino said both phones were placed in the digital forensics lab, which has limited keycard access.

But troopers were not able to access Read’s phone until July 2022 because they did not have her passcode. By July 2022, the software had been upgraded to “brute force” open Read’s phone.


Link
I'll go by what Green said in the courtroom not what msm says.
 
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  • #578
I'll go by what Green said in the courtroom not what msm says.
Trooper Guarino testified to it, in the courtroom, this trial, as reported in MSM.

from timestamp 6.14.00

 
  • #579
Additionally, Jen McCabe is the 'sit there in the witness box and lie' type.
An amazing thing to watch. This trial she had to have transcript of her first testimony in first trial to 'refresh'.. no, couldn't recall, laughable and ludicrous. It's who she is through and through as we have all seen in both trials. IMO
 
  • #580
Trooper Guarino testified to it, in the courtroom, this trial, as reported in MSM.

from timestamp 6.14.00

Oh he has a lot on his plate in the future, not a credible person as LE. It was bizarre that he was even on the stand for this, but suppose had to. IMO
 
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