MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #31 Retrial

[Spider92]

When did this woman sleep?

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Dr. Russell is awesome. I love her perspective both as LE and a doctor. She was the first female officer in Malden NY. She’s been an ER physician for almost 30 years and has performed over 500 autopsies. She also teaches at USC Keck. She is both a seasoned physician and a credible witness. MOO

Marie Russell, MD Expert Witness - SEAK, Inc.

Marie Russell, MD, provides expert witness opinions on Emergency Medicine and Forensic Pathology matters.

www.seakexperts.com

 

[Linda7NJ]

The dumb award goes to her scene playing stupid that she didn't understand his question when AJ asked if she would be incriminating 2 officers ( Berkowitz & Higgins) with her initial testimony that they spent "a wildly amount of time in the Sally port".

imo

If she was lying - it could he easily proved by looking at the hours she worked - the defense didn’t do that. They simply attempted to muddy the waters
IMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

Wasn’t it the defenses job to inform their witness there was a sequestration order?

IIRC:
The prosecution and/or defense would have to request the order from the judge first.
It would be granted or not.
Then the judge would forward it to the witness.

 

[Soulmagent]

Well after that Dever fiasco I guess the new conspiracy is Chief Berkowitz and Higgins did the staging? Surely Proctor would have been better than Dever to call. Ouch.

Proctor failed his department by being so lax. He took the fall but he had full support of making sure KR got charged , they overplayed their hand and underestimated KR. I do not doubt the the wildly long time was for real and no one can call Proctor he is unreliable to both sides an he is probably mad about being tossed out like bath water. we know his wife is.

 

[waldojabba]

The dumb award goes to her scene playing stupid that she didn't understand his question when AJ asked if she would be incriminating 2 officers ( Berkowitz & Higgins) with her initial testimony that they spent "a wildly amount of time in the Sally port".

imo

So true. Also she wanted to play dumb about knowing HIggins ( knew him in passing) until she was chatting with Brennan then she knew he had an office there at the precinct and was Chief Berkowitz's friend.
She protected the shield but I am not sure that will actually help her career. She needs a lot of work on her attitude.
JMO

 

[keek]

I have not seen it, just going fast through this, I had high hopes foolishly it sounds. IMO

I noticed her comment back to judge on Friday when asked to come back by judge, very accommodating and happy to do so I thought, it stuck out. Normal of course, but her being a witness hoping to tell the truth as to testify about seeing Berk. and Proc in the sally port a wildly long time, her words. Shocking does not remember or it was false. Has to be clear to the jury she has backtracked in court. I feel she is very comfortable in doing that in that court as in no problems for her going forward in lieing. IMO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

I'll just leave this quote here as I think it's appropriate.

“10 percent of any population is cruel, no matter what, and 10 percent is merciful, no matter what, and the remaining 80 percent can be moved in either direction.”

~ Susan Sontag

That’s a great quote! Another comes to mind for me:
‘The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil.’ - Hannah Arendt

MOO

 

[themonk]

Dr. Russell is awesome. I love her perspective both as LE and a doctor. She was the first female officer in Malden NY. She’s been an ER physician for almost 30 years and has performed over 500 autopsies. She also teaches at USC Keck. She is both a seasoned physician and a credible witness. MOO

Marie Russell, MD Expert Witness - SEAK, Inc.

Marie Russell, MD, provides expert witness opinions on Emergency Medicine and Forensic Pathology matters.

www.seakexperts.com

Wish I had her brains

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Dr. Russell and Alessi are discussing wound pattern recognition methodology. This is generally accepted and discussed in peer reviewed medical literature. Dr. Russell cites child abuse as a type of injury where wound pattern recognition may be used.

 

[Soulmagent]

Wish I had her brains

i know ,her and the weather man so far.
Just people saying the facts.

 

[missy1974]

I know all the education and experience questions are necessary.. but it is kinda boring

 

[kuromiiiilove]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1929561984145514952

 

[kuromiiiilove]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1929555147580977477

‘Rookie cop hauled in by the leader of a department about her testimony in a huge case where deceased is a member of her new department. She previously has provided information favorable to defense and harmful to her old department and the case for the murder of the deceased member of her new department. She is told her new department has her back and "to do the right thing." Add in what she told the FBI after being warned about consequences for lying. She then recants what she told FBI, testifies very nastily towards the defense and says the only threats she received were from the defense. I'm not sure that is believable here.’

 

[kuromiiiilove]

If she was lying - it could he easily proved by looking at the hours she worked - the defense didn’t do that. They simply attempted to muddy the waters
IMO

Then equally applied, couldn’t Brennan have used her hours to clear up the ‘muddied waters’ on cross? Why didn’t he?

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Dr Russell says she would expect to see lower extremity fractures in a car strike.

 

[waldojabba]

When did this woman sleep?

She is a brainiac and maybe one of those people who needs only 4 hrs of sleep
Amazing recall and energy -
JMO

 

[Sarg]

WHYYYYY is she being sooo defensive? Why not just answer the questions? She is being hostile.

 

[Soulmagent]

I know all the education and experience questions are necessary.. but it is kinda boring

She is a brainiac and maybe one of those people who needs only 4 hrs of sleep
Amazing recall and energy -
JMO

I love her!
You can see she is a good person. Helpful compassionate and her job has not become routine to her. she cares!

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Well after that Dever fiasco I guess the new conspiracy is Chief Berkowitz and Higgins did the staging? Surely Proctor would have been better than Dever to call. Ouch.

I feel like there is no ‘new’ theory. I knew this was a possibility when the forensic expert was asked on cross if Berkowitz and Higgins were swabbed to compare to the two unknown male DNA profiles, so it certainly wasn’t a surprise to me. Berkowitz also called YB and told him that he ‘saw’ a piece of tail light days later in the snow. The defense has always floated him as someone participating in a potential cover up.

I don’t think it’s too hard to imagine multiple people in on this. Saying one person is in doesn’t mean another person is out. It’s a moving goalposts fallacy (implying previously mentioned suspects have been ‘given up on’ just because a new player is brought into the game), and IMO a bit of a straw man (misrepresenting the defenses argument as inconsistent or weak, rather than ignoring that multiple suspects may be a valid approach)